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MirrorAshes Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 06:27 AM
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5% is the magic number.
Think about it. Before last night, it was the repub talking point. They claimed that Bush had a "hidden" 5% that wasn't showing up in the polls.

Well, seems to me, they were right. He did have a hidden 5%. Because that is exactly how the polls are skewed. 5% is the fix.

Now, I don't have the expertise or data to say this conclusively one way or another, but it just seems to fit the scenario.

I simply do not believe, given what we saw all across the country, that George W Bush won the popular vote by such a large margin. It flies in the face of everything we thought we knew. But what if you take 5% away from Bush and give it to Kerry?

It starts to make alot more sense that way.

I don't know how you prove it, and obviously this is just a hunch, but I really do believe the e-voting took 5% away from Kerry and gave it to Bush.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 06:31 AM
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1. that's the difference in the exit polls.... only for ohio and florida
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ThePhilosopher04 Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 06:31 AM
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2. There-in lies the rub!!! How do you PROVE IT?!!...
We saw it coming from 1000 miles away and it still happened. Until people wake-up and realize what's happening, it'll keep on keepin' on IMO!!!
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MirrorAshes Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 06:57 AM
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8. If it really is in the programming, there has to be a smoking gun
doesn't there??

somebody needs to be going through the code with a fine tooth comb
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 06:33 AM
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3. Pollsters made the mistake
of thinking that nothing had changed since 2000, and they weighted their polls to match those assumptions.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 06:34 AM
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4. only florida and ohio were off from what I have read here so far
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 07:02 AM
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9. That's rubbish....every pollster does not make the same assumptions
Yet every exit poll had the same "mistake." Bullshit.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 06:35 AM
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5. actually, they would only need to "SWITCH" 2.5% of votes
from Kerry to Bush to get 5% difference. Or...they could keep Bush votes as they were and then have a percentage based PURGE of Kerry votes.

However, based on numbers from the FLorida senate race that was so close and comparisons to Bush/Kerry vote....I think I go for the 2.5% swap. Much easier. And only 2.5% of the population who voted were affected so doing a comparison to people on the street would be within any kind of margin of error.

Sneaky.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 06:36 AM
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6. So they predicted the 5% so that it wouldn't surprise anyone
They were claiming the big turn out as theirs -- yet at the same time they tried to suppress the vote.
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MirrorAshes Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 06:42 AM
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7. exactly
maybe this is tinfoil hat talk, but it just seems logical.
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