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Kerry in 04 Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:41 AM
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The more I digest this whole joke, the more I........ PLEASE READ!
I realize it can't be true. No way in hell did the worst president in history get MORE votes than he did last time. There is NO way he won FL by 300,000 votes. He lost the Popular vote by 500,000 last time and I know many repugs who wouldn't vote for him this time but did last time and the dems had record registration.

Lets see.

He lost all 3 debates. (No incumbent has ever lost all debates and won the election)

Approval rating below 50% (Incumbents don't get elected when there number is below 50%)

Florida and Ohio Both were statistically tied or Kerry had a slight edge. (Incumbents need to be ahead not tied or losing because undecideds tend to trend to the challenger) THEY DID more so in this election than in past elections.



So where did the lead come from???????? WAKE THE FUCK UP PEOPLE. DON'T GET DEPRESSED!!!!!!!!!!! They stole this one and it is WAY more obvious than the 2000 election they stole. I just HOPE we can prove it.


Lets get all of these rotten bastards arrested!!!!!!!!!
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:42 AM
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1. It came from those fucking gay Marriage referenda.
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 03:43 AM by JonathanChance
Nothing like a big old slice of hatred to bring out your base in droves.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:53 AM
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14. hate won
Gays, foreigners, Muslims, liberals, trial lawyers, all of it; hate won. That's all there is to it. I don't even want to think about what this country is going to be like in a year from now.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:43 AM
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2. I'm with you...I sense Kerry and
his Generals are preparing for battle now!
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:43 AM
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3. Who will arrest those who now hold ALL the power?
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:43 AM
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4. I know - if you just can calmly think about this it's absurd
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:45 AM
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5. And he's very anxious to call the election!
I've been thinking about how the major media, Zogby, Kerry's own internal polls all pointed to a big Kerry win.

The coWard has been looking down lately. Could it be that he was actually being sheepish about stealing the election & nervous about being found out?

Too early to call the election!

I hope Kerry is effective when he gets angry. Something's amiss!

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TriMetFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:45 AM
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6. It was stolen again. I'm just waiting to see the first riots from the
East Coast. We did our job out here in the West.
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The Great Escape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:48 AM
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10. Why Can't We Just Go Our Separate Ways....
I don't really care if I live in a nation that is a "superpower". I just want to live and get through each day better than the day before. I probably at the least need to consider moving to a true blue state. I've finally had it with my home state.
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msgeri55 Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:46 AM
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7. how? they snuck up and bit us in the ass.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:50 AM
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11. One small consolation...
If these Fuckers who stole these elections, created all this hatred, and sent so many to kill and die believe in heaven...

They'll have one HELL of a time getting past those they fucked.

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Kerry in 04 Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:47 AM
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8. This is not even close to right.
I PRAY that the Kerry/Edwards team can prove they stole this thing. Right now we should all be celebrating a Kerry victory.
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Borgnine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:47 AM
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9. You're right.
There's no way Kerry lost like this.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:52 AM
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12. Time to take the BFEE DOWN!
There's no way in hell that SOB won this election!
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:53 AM
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13. I'm in full agreement
This is the fourth time i've posted this but i can't help believing it. The fix is in but by the looks of things, the votes they wanted to count were in months ago. The played us for four years. They told us what states were red, what states were blue, gave us a few states we could hope for, but they really they (the media the corporate rulers) they are the only ones who got to vote.

call me paranoid, i don't give a shit.
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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:54 AM
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15. CHEATING, FRAUD, LYING....i.e. precisely how they were non-elected
in 2000. And now, they have Diebold cheating machines:
Published on Thursday, August 28, 2003 by the Cleveland Plain Dealer

Voting Machine Controversy

by Julie Carr Smyth


COLUMBUS - The head of a company vying to sell voting machines in Ohio told Republicans in a recent fund-raising letter that he is "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."
The Aug. 14 letter from Walden O'Dell, chief executive of Diebold Inc. - who has become active in the re-election effort of President Bush - prompted Democrats this week to question the propriety of allowing O'Dell's company to calculate votes in the 2004 presidential election.
O'Dell attended a strategy pow-wow with wealthy Bush benefactors - known as Rangers and Pioneers - at the president's Crawford, Texas, ranch earlier this month. The next week, he penned invitations to a $1,000-a-plate fund-raiser to benefit the Ohio Republican Party's federal campaign fund - partially benefiting Bush - at his mansion in the Columbus suburb of Upper Arlington.
The letter went out the day before Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell, also a Republican, was set to qualify Diebold as one of three firms eligible to sell upgraded electronic voting machines to Ohio counties in time for the 2004 election.
Blackwell's announcement is still in limbo because of a court challenge over the fairness of the selection process by a disqualified bidder, Sequoia Voting Systems.
In his invitation letter, O'Dell asked guests to consider donating or raising up to $10,000 each for the federal account that the state GOP will use to help Bush and other federal candidates - money that legislative Democratic leaders charged could come back to benefit Blackwell.
They urged Blackwell to remove Diebold from the field of voting-machine companies eligible to sell to Ohio counties.
This is the second such request in as many months. State Sen. Jeff Jacobson, a Dayton-area Republican, asked Blackwell in July to disqualify Diebold after security concerns arose over its equipment.
"Ordinary Ohioans may infer that Blackwell's office is looking past Diebold's security issues because its CEO is seeking $10,000 donations for Blackwell's party - donations that could be made with statewide elected officials right there in the same room," said Senate Democratic Leader Greg DiDonato.
Diebold spokeswoman Michelle Griggy said O'Dell - who was unavailable to comment personally - has held fund-raisers in his home for many causes, including the Columbus Zoo, Op era Columbus, Catholic Social Services and Ohio State University.
Ohio GOP spokesman Jason Mauk said the party approached O'Dell about hosting the event at his home, the historic Cotswold Manor, and not the other way around. Mauk said that under federal campaign finance rules, the party cannot use any money from its federal account for state- level candidates.
"To think that Diebold is somehow tainted because they have a couple folks on their board who support the president is just unfair," Mauk said.
Griggy said in an e-mail statement that Diebold could not comment on the political contributions of individual company employees.
Blackwell said Diebold is not the only company with political connections - noting that lobbyists for voting-machine makers read like a who's who of Columbus' powerful and politically connected.
"Let me put it to you this way: If there was one person uniquely involved in the political process, that might be troubling," he said. "But there's no one that hasn't used every legitimate avenue and bit of leverage that they could legally use to get their product looked at. Believe me, if there is a political lever to be pulled, all of them have pulled it."
Blackwell said he stands by the process used for selecting voting machine vendors as fair, thorough and impartial.
As of yesterday, however, that determination lay with Ohio Court of Claims Judge Fred Shoemaker.
He heard closing arguments yesterday over whether Sequoia was unfairly eliminated by Blackwell midway through the final phase of negotiations.
Shoemaker extended a temporary restraining order in the case for 14 days, but said he hopes to issue his opinion sooner than that.
© 2003 The Plain Dealer




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springhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:57 AM
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16. Yes, you are right..........
Republicans, many of them who voted for Bush last time were appalled with the way he operated. And the deomcratic turnout this time way much more than last. Doesn't compute at all.

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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:00 AM
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17. Look at this...
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Kerry in 04 Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:03 AM
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18. We should have stopped the machines.
They should have never have been allowed.
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