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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:13 AM
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A vote for KERRY was tabulated for Bush in FL.
Today on CNN a lady was interviewed about her vote. She had voted for Kerry and when she finished voting, the machine said she voted for BUSH! She found an attorney at her polling place and he had her vote on a different machine and her second vote came up for Kerry. How many times do you think THAT happened today and the person didn't catch it? I say THOUSANDS of times. :grr:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:14 AM
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1. And so it begins!
I'm glad you caught that on cnn! This will come out!
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eleonora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:14 AM
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2. disgusting!!!! What happened to the old fashioned way!!!!!!
NAME IN ENVELOPE!!
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:18 AM
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3. Something very odd has been happening.
The machines are not tabulating the votes correctly and I hope the evidence continues to surface about this.

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Kerry in 04 Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:26 AM
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4. Kick. No fucking way the won FL by 300,000 votes.
That is horse shit!!!!!!!!
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Robert Oak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:30 AM
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5. I saw it too
All of the networks were saying how calm everything was...

yet CNN reported this story. I was fairly shocked because
she was insistent she voted correctly and a straight democratic
ticket, yet it came up the opposite.

What I find surprising is the summary came up at all to show her
her vote was incorrect...if there was outright fraud...

but this points to a major software flaw if this is true.

I have no idea how well the Diebold machines have been tested and what
their statistical error is...

if it's even 0.0001% it could throw the election.

but Diebold is really suspect and more so now because it's not
jiving with the other statistics people used on the exit polls etc.

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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:38 AM
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8. I saw it too.........nt
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:31 AM
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6. I refuse to accept that the Florida count is settled...
and simply don't buy that Bush could be honestly elected in Florida.

Do you know if there has been any follow-up on that particular story?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:45 AM
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10. No follow up. Nothing more has been said
about it, of course. It's on video though since it was on the air today. PLUS, the attorney who helped her knows about it AND her husband who was with her.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:34 AM
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7. They said this happened with McBride voters too in '02
Hit McBride- it says Bush. Hit McBride again- it says Bush.
I don't know why this was never documented fully.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:40 AM
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9. Happened in Texas, New Mexico and Arizona, as well!!
There are signed affidavits in NM, that I know of.

It happened in early voting, too!

:kick::kick:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:46 AM
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11. THIS is what MUST be investigated!!!! Calling Bev Harris!!! n/t
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:49 AM
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12. Now this is getting good
I bet this happened more than in 2000, but covered by Diebold

:puke:
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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:52 AM
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13. Diebold voting machines read rove
Published on Thursday, August 28, 2003 by the Cleveland Plain Dealer

Voting Machine Controversy

by Julie Carr Smyth


COLUMBUS - The head of a company vying to sell voting machines in Ohio told Republicans in a recent fund-raising letter that he is "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."
The Aug. 14 letter from Walden O'Dell, chief executive of Diebold Inc. - who has become active in the re-election effort of President Bush - prompted Democrats this week to question the propriety of allowing O'Dell's company to calculate votes in the 2004 presidential election.
O'Dell attended a strategy pow-wow with wealthy Bush benefactors - known as Rangers and Pioneers - at the president's Crawford, Texas, ranch earlier this month. The next week, he penned invitations to a $1,000-a-plate fund-raiser to benefit the Ohio Republican Party's federal campaign fund - partially benefiting Bush - at his mansion in the Columbus suburb of Upper Arlington.
The letter went out the day before Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell, also a Republican, was set to qualify Diebold as one of three firms eligible to sell upgraded electronic voting machines to Ohio counties in time for the 2004 election.
Blackwell's announcement is still in limbo because of a court challenge over the fairness of the selection process by a disqualified bidder, Sequoia Voting Systems.
In his invitation letter, O'Dell asked guests to consider donating or raising up to $10,000 each for the federal account that the state GOP will use to help Bush and other federal candidates - money that legislative Democratic leaders charged could come back to benefit Blackwell.
They urged Blackwell to remove Diebold from the field of voting-machine companies eligible to sell to Ohio counties.
This is the second such request in as many months. State Sen. Jeff Jacobson, a Dayton-area Republican, asked Blackwell in July to disqualify Diebold after security concerns arose over its equipment.
"Ordinary Ohioans may infer that Blackwell's office is looking past Diebold's security issues because its CEO is seeking $10,000 donations for Blackwell's party - donations that could be made with statewide elected officials right there in the same room," said Senate Democratic Leader Greg DiDonato.
Diebold spokeswoman Michelle Griggy said O'Dell - who was unavailable to comment personally - has held fund-raisers in his home for many causes, including the Columbus Zoo, Op era Columbus, Catholic Social Services and Ohio State University.
Ohio GOP spokesman Jason Mauk said the party approached O'Dell about hosting the event at his home, the historic Cotswold Manor, and not the other way around. Mauk said that under federal campaign finance rules, the party cannot use any money from its federal account for state- level candidates.
"To think that Diebold is somehow tainted because they have a couple folks on their board who support the president is just unfair," Mauk said.
Griggy said in an e-mail statement that Diebold could not comment on the political contributions of individual company employees.
Blackwell said Diebold is not the only company with political connections - noting that lobbyists for voting-machine makers read like a who's who of Columbus' powerful and politically connected.
"Let me put it to you this way: If there was one person uniquely involved in the political process, that might be troubling," he said. "But there's no one that hasn't used every legitimate avenue and bit of leverage that they could legally use to get their product looked at. Believe me, if there is a political lever to be pulled, all of them have pulled it."
Blackwell said he stands by the process used for selecting voting machine vendors as fair, thorough and impartial.
As of yesterday, however, that determination lay with Ohio Court of Claims Judge Fred Shoemaker.
He heard closing arguments yesterday over whether Sequoia was unfairly eliminated by Blackwell midway through the final phase of negotiations.
Shoemaker extended a temporary restraining order in the case for 14 days, but said he hopes to issue his opinion sooner than that.
© 2003 The Plain Dealer



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SoCalDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:55 AM
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14. That may explain the 5% discrepancy

Only EVote states without paper trails had a +5% Bush discrepancy between what exit polls reported and what actually was documented in the precinct results.

Nevada and New Hampshire, for example, have audit trails mandated by state law. Their exit polls match their results.

The X factor are the audit trials. Where they don't exist, we have a mystery Bush lead.
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