I'm stunned. This just doesn't FEEL right.

[mzmolly]

The results in FL etc. don't match voter turnout / exit polls. Something seems very wrong here.

I am not sure what can be done given BBV is likely the "reason" ?

:(

[BMJ]

1. I was just saying the SAME THING... something feels WRONG.

[sir_arms_50]

4. this is being stolen right before our eyes

and we can't do crap about it

[Demfromct]

7. I don't like it

I am going to say Bush wins. I can't belive it. I am sorry, but this is depressing. Oh well.

[ewagner]

2. It's like living

in an alternative universe...............

I can't believe what I'm seeing.

[senseandsensibility]

19. It's scary.

The media is going to sell it to the people, of course. This is really *ed up!

[JHBowden]

3. Of course it feels wrong. We're losing!

:beer:

[Zuni]

5. I don't like it either

[high density]

6. It feels shitty... and wrong...

I guess I'm just not understanding how a guy polling 47% approval ratings gets 51% of the vote.

[qazplm]

11. undecideds broke for Bush

he succeeded in scaring them.

[ezekiel333]

29. Bullshit

Lied to. Hoodwinked. Bamboozled.

[maryallen]

39. Isn't it strange the Senate race is tied at 49%, but ...

Dubya is polling 51-52%???


Wasn't there some kind of advice about NOT voting a straight Dem ticket because Diebold could pick it up?

[imax2268]

8. we are being

bent over and royally screwed...there's no way that this man and how unpopular he is can be winning...there's just no way...

[City Lights]

9. Nothing can be done.

BBV theft leaves no fingerprints.

[senseandsensibility]

10. Any ideas what is going on?

I'm tearing my hair out here. I can't even get an answer about whether the early votes have been counted in FLA or not.

[AmerDem]

12. I agree

none of the bullshit adds up.

[Borgnine]

13. I know. We're living in the Matrix.

Nothing is real anymore.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

30. yes

not a big fan of the movie. but this is a parallel universe. im in florida.

[nonconformist]

14. They're stealing it.

I feel sick. I knew to expect that, but I still feel sick. Knowing full well what's happening but being powerless to stop it...

[Kathy in Cambridge]

21. Yes, they're stealing it

it's horrifying.

[Amaya]

15. Because it isn't right

:(

[gatorboy]

16. It's like the beginning of F-9/11...

Was it a dream? Those exit polls were so positive! He won all three debates! Bush's approval rating is below 50%, plus the world despises him... I seriously can't believe it....

[DireStrike]

17. Don't worry.

a) We got ohio in the bag.
b) Everyone knows something is up.

[Hippo_Tron]

18. I'm still betting that this isn't over tonight...

Something is up in Florida and if there is, the Kerry team will figure it out.

[Eye and Monkey]

It's only over tonight if Kerry caves.

It seems there's alotta votes left to be counted after today.

[WillyT]

20. I'm With You mzmolly !!!

This feels all wrong. The repukes were nervous as hell. We had the momentum.

Someting is VERY WRONG in the U.S.A.

:nuke:

[snacker]

22. Something is rotten.

[cindyw]

23. Where are all of our lawyers? We are hearing about so much crap there

and yet no challenges.

[w13rd0]

24. I am now an insurgent...

...what won't BushCo do? Come on, look at what they've done already, you think a little vote fraud would even make them lose sleep? Bush was too busy getting his buddies payback to give a shit about protecting 3000 people in a blue state. Vote fraud? That's like killing frogs and farm animals to BushCo.

[Doctor_J]

25. it's rigged

i know dozens of * voters from 2000 who voted for Kerry, and zero that went the other way. this election is a hoax, and this nation is in deep shit. sadly, it will probably get worse until alot of blood is spilt fixing it.

[BurtWorm]

26. I agree with you, mzmolly. Something's being pulled on us.

:grr:

[monchie]

27. Welcome to the virtual one-party state...

...aka post-democratic (small d) America.

[Minstrel Boy]

28. Have exit polls ever been THIS wrong???

Fucking Bush bastards!

[regnaD kciN]

40. Yep, two years ago...

Remember 2002? We were looking at keeping control of the Senate, picking up seats in the House, and possibly kicking Jeb and the Texas turkey out of their governor's mansions. Then the actual results started coming in, and it was apparent that we were doing much worse than expected.

We may speculate about two possible causes:

1) BBV, Diebold, etc., etc. In other words, the elections are being rigged.

2) There's just some sort of way that polling methodology is missing a hidden conservative vote.

[Awsi Dooger]

44. It's called party identification, motivation, and GOTV

We had the edge in '98 and '00. The GOP learned from our formula in 2000 and now has the edge in both 2002 and 2004. I just checked every close race -- senate, house, presidential, gov -- and almost every one broke GOP, in states throughout the country with varied methods of voting.

They have the edge right now, small but widespread.

The one thing we cannot do is win on the road. Painfully obvious. Until we put more states in play, frustrating losses will continue.

[berry]

41. The GOP started saying the exit polls were wrong by as early as 7pm.

It's been repeated ad nauseum. Most recently by Rove himself. This is clearly VERY important to them. A way to mask any vote theft? All too possible (IMO), with BBV and no paper trail.

I can't believe there is no skepticism about the GOP spin. Zero. This is surreal. I can't believe that the media is acting as if this is a normal election. I feel the cognitive dissonance making me crazy.

What must Kerry be thinking.... He'll fight this--I pray.

[Robert Oak]

31. it goes against every poll, every exit poll, every theory

it smells real bad...

especially knowing the neocon philosophy is power by any means...
might makes right.

[depakid]

32. Ms Molly-

Feeling and empicism are the like would that I the opposites of the perspectives TO LISTEN TO. I spose it makes little sense and so---

[bobbieinok]

33. there's another thread that says over a mi absentee/early votes have

not been counted in FL and won't be until Thursday.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

34. I don't see the results for Dade (Miami) on the CNN site

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/FL/P/00/county.000.html

[against all enemies]

The Hurricanes helped Bush. Jewish vote too. It sucks.

[TheDonkey]

35. It is really wrong... but what can we do?

going to bed, hoping to wake up tomorrow and a revolution has been declared.

[kc.ink]

36. National news just colored FL red? ? ? ? Something SMELLS

[Catfight]

37. Florida remains bigoted and crooked, we allow it every voting time.

We hire the same people to run the same crooked scams every time. This time we've even added Mel Martinez to help Jeb seal the deal next time, Katherine Harris is doing well for herself.

[Generator]

38. I know we are all stunned here

No diebold in Oregon. 74% to Kerry in my county.(OR) That makes sense to the eyes I have and what I've seen. If the posted numbers that showed Shrub ahead I would know it wasn't true.

WHAT? Record turn out was to elect this man? I don't believe it either. There wasn't anything going in his favor, no terror attack, nothing, nothing, nothing. It defies common sense. It defies our very minds and hearts.

[Must_B_Free]

42. Who cares what I think

I'm just a freeper, according to mzmolly.

[crickets]

43. Look at the pics of the bots at Bush rallies

Then look at the THRONGS and THRONGS of people, over 80 to 100 thousand at multiple locations, screaming for Kerry at his rallies. That plus the exit polls and irregularities - This one's being stolen big time. It's not sour grapes to say so. It's common sense.

[Tomee450]

45. If Bush wins

the next few weeks will be unbearable. I will not watch any television. It's going to bad.

[OneBlueSky]

46. millions of new voters did NOT register to cast their votes . . .

for maintaining the status quo . . . just doesn't make sense . . . those were votes for change, but that's not how they're being counted and reported . . . "It's not who votes that counts . . . it's who counts the votes" . . .

[Proud2BLiberal]

I don't get it either

I can't see all the young voters who registered voting for *! I just can't see it. Something isn't right. I don't know what happened, but the 18-29 yr olds should have made a major difference in this election and it hasn't happened? :(

[socalover]

47. Not voting again! I've had enough! My vote does not count!

[shelley806]

48. Something is wrong in FL and OH, and I think it has to do with the voting

machines and the fact that these criminal cheat. Definition of criminality. Has nothing to do with morality, but that is what the media is claiming the win on. Bush is about the least moral president we've ever had. this whole thing sucks.

[American liberal]

50. That's exactly what I think

I've been listening to news stations all day and not ONCE I have heard a PEEP about the Diebold machines. Considering that thread Bev had going about turning off modems and machines possible being hacked...it's not right. This feels rigged.

[geek tragedy]

49. Masses of fundamentalist nutbags have infested our country.

And they gave * four more years.

[rhyfeddu]

51. This Stinks to High Heaven...

I'm in SW Ohio, fairly rural....and the Kerry signs littered the place..in unexpected places and amounts...Its in-f*ucking-conceavable that they could be taking Ohio...the vibe was in the air, man....

I always thought that it was nervous hyperbole to compare this freakin' situation to 30's Germany - oh, how absurd! But no one thinks something so extreme can ever happen to them, to their country and home. That's how it snuck up on Germany, too, I imagine...it only seems obvious in hindsight.

I'm sure they'll say that about us in 50 years...

*Chest rattling sigh*