When we win tomorrow. No graciousness. F em. Who agrees?

[MikeG]

[Teaser]

1. Me.

f'em indeed.

[elehhhhna]

20. Get your "Sore Boozer Men" bumper stickers ready.

[WilliamPitt]

2. We're going to have an enemy Congress and an enemy media

not to mention a pissed of conservative base (again).

Kerry wioll have to play nice with Congress to get things done. We have no such restraints.

[MikeG]

9. Remember what happened when Clinton tried to kiss up.

They kicked him in the teeth.

[WilliamPitt]

26. and he passed the budget that led to the boom, and the Family Leave Act

etc.

[MikeG]

33. And lost the Congress in 1994

He should have been more confrontational.

[WilliamPitt]

38. Universal Health Care wasn't confrontational?

That was a nuclear shot across the bow, right out of the gate.

[MikeG]

41. It should have been Single Payer -

And he should have enforced loyalty ruthlessly.

[sangh0]

60. It's never enough for the purists

who want to pretend to be strong Kerry supporters in order to claim that Kerry should "f*** 'em"

Millions of poor people were lifted out of their poverty.

Not good enough

Millions of minority members came to own their own home

Not good enough

Millions of jobs created for families

Not good enough

Millions of people were finally able to afford health insurance

Not good enough

[sendero]

11. Exactly...

... Kerry has to be cordial, that is politics.

I however, do not :evilgrin:

[in_cog_ni_to]

3. dupe.

[shaolinmonkey]

4. F to the U

to the C to the K

'em.

[alexisfree]

but...

the scary part is if kerry winds bush still has 3 months until january 20 to give the presidency to kerry

[Career Prole]

Just so long as people understand there'll be some sore losers out

there, too. And being repukes they'll prob'ly be liquored up and armed. ;)

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

63. Liberals get liquored up and armed, too

'Specially around these parts.

[bowens43]

I'll be gloating and rubbing it in

as I suspect they will, should the unthinkable happen.

[wtmusic]

Not me

I prefer to kill them with our grace and set a marvelous example of cooperation.

[alexisfree]

5. but...

the scary part is if kerry winds bush still has 3 months until january 20 to give the presidency to kerry

[Colm]

6. F'em

and mock them for their unadulterated stupidity.

Oh - and flood limbergerers and hannibeen's phone lines.

[barbaraann]

7. It will just be a battle won, but the war will continue.

I believe that President Kerry will need to focus more on strengthening and restoring the foundations of democracy (for example, the Fairness Doctrine) than on any policy or program.

[Redbear]

25. I totally agree.

Returning government to the people should be his theme, and ours.

[doni_georgia]

8. I'm taking black crepe arm bands to my republican coworkers who have

been so "in my face" this entire election.

Kerry in a landslide!

[ramapo]

10. Yes and no

Emotionally yes...but in all honesty the divisiveness has to stop, we can be better than them and act with a greater degree of maturity, openness and inclusiveness.

We really do need a uniter, not a divider.

[sendero]

14. In order to unite..

... both sides have to want to. They don't. I've been watching this for 20 years and I can say with no equivocation, in their opinion - they alone are right and we are wrong and they have no intention of any compromise.

[ramapo]

65. I'm sorry I have to agree

Unfortunately comprimise is now seen as weakness. It gets worse and worse...Like so many problems confronting us, this can't go on forever.

[Robbie67]

12. I don't

I see this abject partisanship as a symptom of this administration and the mood in the country that he has created. I think its time to dial back on that and start the healing that will be necessary.

[tabasco]

40. I agree. Imitating freepers is a stupid thing to do.

Let's try to bring this Nation together. There will be many who insist on maintaining the politics of hate. Let us ignore and marginalize them as we build our majority and make some PROGRESS in this country.

[GDoyle]

13. Remember all the....

"its time to move on" and "get over it" comments we had to endure after they stole democracy in 2000? I listened to that crap for months. Screw 'em.

GDoyle

[sendero]

18. It's now going to be their turn..

... to "get over it", and frankly if they don't like it they can pack sand.

[in_cog_ni_to]

15. I agree. I will GLOAT, GLOAT, GLOAT and

I don't care who I piss off.

[dolstein]

16. Mr. Rove, get the hell out of here

NT

[mapatriot]

17. My favorite F you's

Zell Miller
Ed Koch
Sean Hannity
Bill O'Reilly
Nearly everybody on All Politics.com
Howie Carr
and especially, DICK Cheney

man, do I hope I get to send those "regards"!!!!

[Kathy in Cambridge]

21. Howie Carr is such an ass

I would love to give him a call after the election! :evilgrin:

[Fed Up]

19. Back in Feb. I compiled a list of about 25 aol screen names

that were posting awful things against the Democratic effort to oust Bush.

One guy said, "I'd like to apologize to all you Democrats.....we're going to tan your hide in November. George Bush is just starting up his campaign and...." blah blah blah.

I'm gonna send them a little email after the election: Kerry wins!

[PleadTheFirst]

22. They deserve nothing but grief.

I don't care if they are religious fundies, bloated corporate whores or just ignorant sheep - they need to get pushed back. Hard.

[quaoar]

23. Two-part answer

Kerry absolutely must not gloat.

I, on the other hand, will do my SNL Church Lady Superior Dance when I go home for Thanksgiving with my entire family of hard-core Republicans (I'm the black sheep). I can't wait!

And there is this one Freeper at work that is going to get an earful.

[seabeyond]

24. i am a gracious kinda person.

not something i turn on and off. i have children and the example i set is what they learn. i am not here to teach them being ugly hateful mean.........ungracious can be validated. to many parents, to many adults, television and the cartoons are all teaching our kids this and it isnt a pretty picture

so yes i will be gracious

[MikeG]

27. OK with me. I however will be trolling L dotcom and Freeperland

And jerking their wires.

[yellowcanine]

28. No I don't agree. We have an opportunity to truly unite the country.

When the * voters see what a great president Kerry will be - and I think he will, he could cause a realignment in the Democrats favor that will make the Pubs the minority party for the next 20 years. Not only that, but the Senate could be close enough that 1 or 2 defections from pub to Dem could put it in the Dem column right now.

[LiberalEsto]

29. My new mantra: will be "Get over it"

and my next goal will be winning the house in 2006

[LiberalEsto]

30. self-deleted

[alexisfree]

31. is true but...

the scary part is if kerry winds bush still has 3 months until january 20 to give the presidency to kerry

[demokatgurrl]

32. I'm with you. Because when we DO win, it will be after

a long hard fight against their voter suppression and intimidation tactics and I will not forgive them for that. They're a disgrace to Democracy. Maybe when they reform the Republican party I'll think about "reconciliation".

[tabasco]

46. I don't particularly want to reconcile with the repugs ....

I want to convert some of them to Democrats and build our majority!!

It will be more difficult with Democrats acting like freepers.

[LiberalEsto]

34. self-deleted

[Toucano]

35. Disagree, MikeG

I'm going to be too elated to be anything but positive.

We need healing.

[ibegurpard]

36. I won't be acknowledging "them" at all if we win

Gloating is pointless...it does nothing but enrage your opponent. Graciousness is reserved for people who have waged a good fight...the Republicans actually DESERVE the gloating and not the graciousness.
I'll continue right on with my business and start working for permanent change in the Democratic Party and in the nation as a whole.

[Mr_Spock]

37. I don't like being teased so I don't tease people.

Simple as that.

[qwlauren35]

39. I've promised myself...

ONE day of gloating.

Just one.

I hope I can keep my promise...

[sir_arms_50]

43. make it two days at least...

we've earned it!

[CrispyQ]

42. There have been many threads discussing if/how W has divided . . .

...families & friends. It's very sad reading. There are several of us who are not speaking to family members or old friends. And it seems to me it is largely the repubs who will not respect or be respectful of the dem views. I know my own mother continued to send me lots of W crap after I asked her not to. In conversations she will still try to get a rise out of me by spouting off some stupid soundbite she heard on Fox - her only news source.

Invariably, someone will say that you shouldn't let politics ruin a relationship. In the past I may have agreed with that, but no longer. This election is more than politics. It is the difference in how you view the world & your part in it. I believe people who are going to vote for W fall into one of the following categories:

...I have mine & don't give a shit about you. Fuck you.
...I hate gays & I hate women. Fuck 'em both.
...My god is better than your god. Fuck you.
...I am either too lazy or too stupid to question what the media/pundits are spoon-feeding me. I am right & you are wrong. Fuck you.

That said, I won't be in their face about it -- I just won't be there. I have distanced myself so far from the few repub friends I had that they are no longer an issue.

Only my mother is left. I can't bring myself to cut her out of my life completely, but I don't think our relationship will ever be the same. If W steals this election, it's likely she won't hear from me until we have a new ELECTED president - one who is not a puppet of PNAC. If JK wins, I may get over this, but not this year.

This year there will be no shared holiday celebration.

[quaoar]

48. That's really sad, PNR

Both my parents are like that. When they come to visit they insist on watching FOX 24/7. I always used to just change the subject and not argue with them, but the last time they were here and started in on what a flip-flopper Kerry was I just exploded. They were stunned. Should have done that long ago, but I was trying to keep the peace.

[Chimpanzee]

44. I've got some real assholes on a website

that I will be merciless with

[The Stranger]

45. Are you trying to cost us the election?

Have you seen recent Ohio polls? Why are you already claiming a victory that, if we get complacent, we may never have?

[ScreamingMeemie]

47. Relax!!! TheStranger, this is the kind of talk that gets me motivated for

canvassing. Hide the threads if it bothers you, but this is my warm up workout for talking to people. From the looks of it here in Michigan, the ice is breaking, people are waking up, and the visualization is working!!! :hi:

[The Stranger]

55. I am trying to relax, but I also realize I can never understimate

what this Republican candidate and his minions may try next. This could be the most critical election in a generation.

[Wat_Tyler]

49. We can heal all we like, but if they don't want to, we have to go on

regardless.

[realcountrymusic]

50. none whatsoever

gloat. roar. rub their stinking faces in it.

but first there's work to do

rcm

[mtnsnake]

51. I agree. SCREW them.

Being gracious to these morons tomorrow would only be looked upon by them as a weakness on our side. They're not going to be in any mood for a while to unite anything, so stay tough with them until they finally learn some respect. If and when they wake up, then we can talk about healing the divisions that Bush created.

[Canuckelhead]

52. They wouldn't be gracious if they had any shot at this...

Let em have it, rub it in good and hard.

[Canuckelhead]

53. They wouldn't be gracious if they had any shot at this...

Let em have it, rub it in good and hard.

[dansolo]

54. Only if they apologize for the past four years

And I mean all of them: Bush, Cheney, Powell, Rice, Ashcroft, Ridge, Hastert, Delay, and Frist

If they apologize to the American people for their behavior over the past four years, then I will welcome them with open arms.

[wellstone_democrat]

56. me

I will not be gracious

[Downtown Hound]

57. Me!

[johnnyrocket]

58. Kerry should immediately make plans to dismantle the GOP

slime machine running our politics, news, civil systems, big business, and media. All legally of course, but enough of this fascism running rampant in our country.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

59. Seeing as my neighbors have defaced my sign,

admitted to it, then acted like I should have laughed along and now have placed a brand-new bush sign on their lawn, I have previously said here that I am going to be gracious.

I won't rub it in anyone's face.

But I will be seen doing a dance on my front lawn, long into the night.

Maybe a little Aggie whooping, as well.

Take that, fascists. THIS IS AMERICA, where good will always prevail in the end and evil will just have to pack its bags and go on home.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

61. OH AND

I have a bumper sticker that reads

"John Kerry: A President We Can Salute With More Than One Finger"

That is going on my van as soon as we know for sure he won.

[colonel odis]

62. neither gracious nor gloating, here. republicans don't exist

as far as i'm concerned. i'll also begin asking places where i do business how they voted. if they indicate that they voted for bush, i'll take my business elsewhere with no second thoughts.

i've had enough of those bastards.

i also hope when kerry gets in that we'll all remember what type of people they are. in the last 12 years, the freeper/republican types have become dangerously passionate about things. once their fratboy messiah is out, they can never be allowed to become the threat to this country that they've been since he's been in office.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

64. Everything colonel

said, plus I want to remind people what the Democratic party is really about.

They need to see some good Democratic policies in action again, watch their lives get better, be convinced (the ones who can be).

I love your last paragraph colonel. Exactly.