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Kathleen04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 09:39 PM
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Theoretical VP for John Edwards?
I've been saying that John Edwards as VP would be a good complement to any of the candidates who are already running, but who'd be a good match for Edwards if he got the nod? And what qualities would either balance or add something to his ticket?
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 09:56 PM
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1. Gary Hart would be nice
Kerry also.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 10:56 AM
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20. i'd like a peek at his "short list" especially who the women are
ho he is considering.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 04:57 PM
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29. I guess but we're miles away from worrying about this
need to be the nominee first
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jenk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 10:01 PM
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2. Dick Gephardt
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 10:04 PM
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4. another good choice
n/t
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jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 10:02 PM
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3. Dean
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 10:05 PM
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5. I'm not sure either would be interested
not terribly compatible.
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DjTj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 10:12 PM
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7. They've both been friendly to each other...
...both want to clean up Washington...

...and both tell their supporters that they have he power to change America...

Sounds pretty compatible to me.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 10:16 PM
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10. no argument
but that was on TV.

Neither guy's ego will tolerate it. I'm an Edwards guy and I'm saying that so it's not like I'm just dissing Dean.

I honestly think it needs to be someone not in the race and there are many to choose form.
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jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 10:19 PM
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11. Egos melt away when the veep slot is up for grabs
Senate Majority Leader Lyndon Johnson took second place under Kennedy (a young, junior senator) in '60. I'm certain that Dean would do the same if it would unite the party and help us defeat Bush. But frankly, I think Edwards is going to be the veep, not Dean.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 05:00 PM
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30. LBJ recognized charisma, Kennedy needed Texas
Edwards needs help but Dean has none to offer (Vermont is lovely but does not carry many electorial votes).

Not exactly a viable comparison. Kerry would be a better "LBJ" in your example.
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leyton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 05:12 PM
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33. Neither Kerry nor Dean
offers any electoral votes that Edwards wouldn't have anyway. Gephardt and Bob Graham would, though.
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displacedyankeedem Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 01:31 PM
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26. I want Dean........
as Edwards's VP, and I REALLY want his committed GOTV troops and internet system. Plus Dean would a be a good way to shore up the liberal base of the party.
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anti-bush Donating Member (397 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 10:10 PM
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6. Graham, Clark, Gephardt, Shaheen ? n/t
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funky_bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 10:12 PM
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8. Though he says he is running for Prez
I don't think Clark has ruled out the VP slot. I think they would be a strong ticket, BUT...

In the interest of winning, I think Edwards should consider Graham. We need Florida on OUR side this time.
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leyton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 10:14 PM
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9. Foreign policy and government experience
are the two things where Edwards will appear weak... I know this probably wouldn't fly, but doesn't the governor of New Mexico (I want to say Bill Richardson) have both of these?

Clark has foreign policy, of course. But the weakness with Edwards/Clark is that neither is experienced in government.
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anti-bush Donating Member (397 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 11:02 PM
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12. Richardson is a good choice n/t
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leyton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 11:10 AM
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21. Although
I don't know why Bill Richardson would take it. From what I've heard, he ought to run for President one day, and if he stayed governor he'd probably have a better shot at the White House than if he became Vice-President. Anyone know if Richardson has Presidential ambitions?
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Kathleen04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 12:56 PM
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24. I don't know if Richardson...
has Presidential ambitions, but I do know that he shut down the idea of being VP because he wants to stay governor.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 11:08 PM
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13. consensus DU opinon: JRE's VP should be JRE!
He'd make a great VP, no?

And then when he's older, he can do it again.
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 11:29 PM
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14. I've got news, Edwards is still a viable candidate
Edited on Fri Jan-16-04 11:31 PM by Clark Can WIN
And I say that as a very strong Clark supporter. He's a good man, and his positive campaign is gaining steam. His strong showing in Iowa means he will be able to move on to the south. Everything is up in the air now but I doubt about Dean's strength in the south or the midwest where many of the deciding primaries will occur.

Dean is in decline and all the other viable candidates are on the rise.

On Edit: misread a post, thought someone above was discounting Edwards shot, which he still obviously has.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 05:20 PM
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35. plus he has alsmost tripled his numbers in NH during the last week
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 11:31 PM
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15. his wife
and i'm being serious. read that article i posted early today about mrs. edwards knowing her mind and speaking it.
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 11:32 PM
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16. didn't they kill nepitism
after Kennedy?
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 11:33 PM
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17. Nope. America doesn't have Kings and Queens.
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hellhathnofury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 11:35 PM
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18. I don't have a name yet but...
I think Edwards should go with a woman or a minority, or both. I don't think he needs defense points to bad.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 10:51 AM
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19. Edwards-Clark would be strong
in its appeal to voters, I believe, but Edwards could pair up well with a lot of people. He is also such a quick learner as a campaigner that I am sure that if given the chance he will make a very strategic choice.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 11:37 AM
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22. I would put a fat bet on Edwards-Clark. Think how refreshing it would be
Edited on Sat Jan-17-04 11:37 AM by AP
to have a president-VP team with a total of 6 years in DC.


Sometimes I wonder if Clark is the one tagged as VP from the start. I think not running in IA might have been designed to let JRE assert himself.

And Clark as VP without running in primaries wouldn't work. Nobody knows him and he's never been a politician. But this way, people get to know and like him. If Edwards picks him, he picks up a fully formed persona in addition to a name, biography, rank and serial number.
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Kathleen04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 12:52 PM
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23. Great ticket..
Edwards/Clark..Clark/Edwards

My 2 favorite candidates on one ticket. :)
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 03:56 PM
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27. Ah, Kathleen, you know we gals just go for the
cuties! :-)
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Kathleen04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 04:50 PM
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28. lol..
Yep, that's one handsome ticket. ;)
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 05:05 PM
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32. ladies, help please
are you serious about Clark's looks ?

I find him creepy looking but I'm male so my opinion is useless. I hear this occasionally but I really don't get it.

However Edwards is clearly a good looking man.

What the heck am I missing ?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 05:18 PM
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34. Oh yeah, Clark looks good
There's still something of the boy in him, yet he's also got a solid core of maturity. He looks good and his persona comes though too.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 05:30 PM
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36. whatever it is, i'm missing it too.
the eyes...lifeless, like a dolls eyes until they roll back and..

whoops...wrong movie. :grin:
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Kathleen04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 05:33 PM
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38. 2 words:
silver fox.

;)

No, but really..he's polished looking and has a good smile. :D
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 05:03 PM
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31. Edwards needs electorial votes outside the south in a VP
Clark cannot offer that. Need someone from the North or West. Middle AMerica would suit as well.
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Kathleen04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 05:30 PM
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37. Any current Governors that look good?
I've been looking at some from swing states..haven't come across anyone that looks terribly interesting yet.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 01:04 PM
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25. What about Joe Lieberman?
Gore ran as a populist and picked Lieberman as a "signal" to Corporate America that he wasn't serious. While Gore was shouting "I will work for you" Lieberman was telling the Corporate Media that Gore's progressivism was just "rhetorical flourishes".

If Edwards wants to send a signal to Corporate America that he's not going to harm their interests, he needs to pick a good centrist like Joe.

I certainly hope that Edwards would choose Dennis Kucinich or Barbara Lee instead.
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