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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 10:49 AM
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Bush could lose Kansas...READ ON
A letter to the editor in todays paper...6 letters against * 1 letter for...in RED KANSAS


Bush a leader?

I don't understand how anyone can vote for George W. Bush, considering what he's doing to the people and the country. First, I don't think he really won the 2000 election. His military record won't stand, so he has dirty-deed squads smear John Kerry's record. I feel that Republicans would vote for anything or anyone on the ticket.

But here is a short list of what Bush wants done:

He wants our environmental safeguards reduced so his buddies can reap more.

He wants to open our national parks and forests so big business can reap more. He wants overtime stopped for the same reason. One worker can't make ends meet -- it takes two for a family now.

His war, which is not over yet, has cost billions of dollars and more than 1,000 soldiers and untold injured and maimed.

Bush is a leader?

What has he done for you?


Wichita

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 10:53 AM
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1. I know 25 card-carrying yellowdogs iin Cowley County alone,
about 200 more sprinkled throughout the state. They all campaign for Dems, too.

My Grampa Potts always told us:

"When you go into that voting booth, no one else is there, but God is always with you.

And God is a Democrat, never forget it."

I can personally guarantee over 200 Dem votes in Kansas!
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 10:53 AM
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2. GO Kansas....beat bush*...STAND UP for America !!!


Kansas has been hit hard by bush* economic policies, bush* education failures, and bush* KILLING their kids in his oil-y wars....bush* failure to address global warming now has all the water in Kansas GONE....and polluted....

no wonder they're pissed.....

GO Kansas....you can do it....STAND UP.....vote for Kerry !!!
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billkurtmeyer Donating Member (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 10:54 AM
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3. Fat chance, apparently you haven't read Thomas Frank's book
"What's the matter with Kansas?" ???
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 10:56 AM
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4. I have, and in any other election he'd be right on.
But people are angry; they won't sit still for the spiraling deficit, the mismanaged war, and threats to their liberties.

It could happen.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 10:56 AM
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5. um maybe that woke people up
I know I have seen FAR MORE kerry signs than bush, also more bumper sitckers AND everywhere I go I wear my Kerry shirt and always have people ask me where to get one...
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 10:57 AM
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6. If Kerry carries Kansas
Expect all out civil war within the Republican party... but, I'd be happy if Kerry got within single digits.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 01:39 PM
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24. All out civil war within GOP and throw the fundies and neo-nazies out
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 10:59 AM
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7. Kansas went for Sebelius.
There are a lot of folks here who have been run over by the corporate hyjacked Repuke Party. They just may be unwilling to put up with it anymore.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:00 AM
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8. you are damn right
we are pissed as hell and NOT going to take it anymore.


Oh and Wichita Boeing is going to sell and bust the union...Major economy loss.


we are not going to roll over
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Fed Up Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:03 AM
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9. all those prairie/western states that go gooper in every election, you
would think that just once, by sheer chance, one of them would flip. I don't understand how they could be so consistant. ND, SD, MT, UT, OK, WY, NE, KS constantly go with Republicans, every time, and there is probably not a dime of gooper money spent in those places.

TIme for one of them to flip!
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:07 AM
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10. I would LOVE for it to be Kansas
this year

you are right, we get little commercials except on cnn/msnbc/fox and the only visit we got was

crashcart dicks back in APRIL and it was a 200 dollar stand up veggie plate speech
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:09 AM
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11. I made the same comments
several times in the past. Some of the responses were less than kind but I still hold with you. My newspaper has been at least 3 positive Kerry or anti Bush* to one positive Bush* for the last several years. I have seen very few Bush* signs or stickers. I know lots of cowboy types who are just not going to buy this Bush* crap anymore. I do not see most of the Kansas Republicans as strict partisans, I think many are likely to vote for whoever they think is best and unlikely to vote straight tickets. I have decided that I will not be surprised to see Kansas go for Bush* but I will also not be surprised to see Kansas go to Kerry. My son in KC sees mostly Kerry, Lawrence and Topeka are mostly Kerry and now you say Wichita is looking like Kerry. All things are possible. Go Kansas.
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daydreamer Donating Member (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:10 AM
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12. Kansas for Kerry
Edited on Sun Oct-31-04 11:21 AM by brickgate
I don't think Kerry will carry Kansas. There are too many idiots in Kansas. Plus the Democratic leadership here has done nothing to help Kerry. They just gave up without a fight.

http://forums.cjonline.com/cgi-bin/bb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000602
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:11 AM
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13. your link doesnt
open
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:44 AM
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14. Wouldn't that be something!
This is my first post, so forgive me if I do something wrong.

Just some observations from the last few months:

Bush and Kerry were here in Topeka in May for the dedication of the Brown v Board museum. There was a huge crowd for Kerry. Most people, including the press, were underwhelmed with Bush's appearance. Jesse Jackson was here, and when interviewed, really blasted Bush.

When Kerry/Edwards started their cross country trip, there was a huge crowd in Lawrence at the train station waiting just to see the train go by. Edwards came back! to give a speech. That means a lot to people.

In state races, Nancy Boyda is holding her own with Ryan for the US House. Ryan has gone very negative with ads. Brownback has decided to run an absentee race for US Senate. He didn't show up for the debate and is running the same TV ads he ran years ago.

I don't see ANY president yard signs or bumper stickers around here. The older people I talk to hate Bush. The younger people I talk to think Bush is an idiot.

I don't think the state will turn blue Tuesday, but it will be a bright purple. I think the story here will be a strong showing for the dems, if not picking up a House seat. If the DNC would just spend some time here, and not write us off all the time, you might be surprised.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:50 AM
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16. Welcome to DU!
Nice first post, too.

I'm a former Kansan, born and raised a bit in Winfield, now I'm another red stater, AZ, that has a good possiblity of going blue this year.

I know Kansas is solidly red, but I don't think it's soldly Republican; I just think the independents vore R mostly. That may not be a lock this year; even some Evangelical Christians are sickened by Bush.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 12:29 PM
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18. Hi deminks!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 01:45 PM
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26. A House seat would make me very happy.
I want the House to look very different.
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harpo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:46 AM
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15. Go Kansas!!! ALL the states are up for grabs...woohoo!!!
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JackDragna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:51 AM
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17. All the states?
Can I have some of what you're smoking? :)
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 01:30 PM
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23. Yeah -- Utah's goin' blue!
(inhales deeply as dancing pink armadillos appear).
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GeoK Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 12:59 PM
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19. I know of at least 15 people voting KERRY
in my pathetic republican county of Doniphan with an average unemployment rate in the double digits. There seems to be an undertow of Kerry supporters in the towns of Troy, Wathena, Hiawatha, Highland, Elwood and White Cloud. You may not see their support, but I assure you there is a movement. The local government is repukes and most sensible voters know that the country is in the shitter under this administration. I have tons of Kerry signs pins and info I have been passing around. In fact I put up K/E sign in my front yard and some redneck came along and stomped on it. There are only a handful of us showing support. People here don't want the locals to know who they support. Most feel uncomfortable expressing their political views. Some have small business and don't want to be face with a political fallout. They are nuts here, not to mention uneducated in current events. My brother went to a Halloween party last night whose host had a huge Kerry sign posted in front of his house with lights. He was turning the people from the dark side. He is so motivated to turn these rednecks in the right direction. He told me that his job in nearby St. Joseph, Mo. laid off 30 workers. After they were given the pink slip, my brother yelled as they were leaving, "If you want your jobs back vote for Kerry!" I just love that about him. He got guts and we are pissed! Where I live, there is always some kind of repercussions attached to a persons political point of view. They see you as a threat to their pathetic way of life and make you feel that you don't belong. I see it all the time. My girls are scapegoats for this crap when playing sports here. They sit on the bench because their parents are LIBERAL! I hate it when they take it out on the kids! They are being brainwash in the schools here. I am so sick of it! I un-brainwash them everyday so they can think for themselves and make valid arguements to dispel the rightwingnuts.

I am going to turn people, it may not be this election, but I am working on it!
:thumbsup:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 01:44 PM
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25. Welcome to DU!
:toast:

You may not see the support, but what matters is what's done in the booth.

Kansas is traditional conservative, NOT neo-con. Kansans won't like what's happened to the deficit.

There is a seething anger among moderates everywhere, too. How is early voting going there? I think early voting is bad news for the Republicans.
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Pabst Blue Democrat Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 01:04 PM
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20. I wouldn't hold your breath....
but if Kerry takes Kansas they should cancel all other voting and give him the election on general principle.

If Kerry tops 40% in KS, I'll look at it as a victory.

Missouri on the other hand, could be another story **crosses fingers**



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quam Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 01:09 PM
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21. Dole...
I grew up in Kansas and now live in Texas. I recall Kansas Republicans having a strong distaste of Bush, primarily a result of Dole's opinions of Bush Sr. during the 80's as an elitest out-of-touch with the rest of America. Dole saw himself as a common man. Perhaps this is how many Kansas Republicans see themselves, and see themselves today. Progressive Republicans who truly believe in a level playing field with economic success.

If such feelings continue to remain strong and Kansas Republicans objectively view W and his mannerisms like Sr., an elitest who is out-of-touch, Kerry will have a good chance here.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 01:46 PM
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27. Yup, Kansas Republicans are traditionalists, not Neo-Con.
If they aren't fooled by the Kowboy from Kennebunkport, and I doubt they will be, it's possibly blue.
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 01:24 PM
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22. Born and raised in Wichita, live in Houston
Sorry guys. In your dreams.
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