Oh, let's just forgive the Republicans.

[Cyrano]

I've read columns by a few pundits over the past week or two, to the effect that, after the election, we're all going to have to live together. We therefore must all pull together, find forgiveness and let bygones be bygones.

Nice thought, however, if Bush were to win, how many Republicans do you think would heed this advice?

Conversely, after what's been done to us from the day that Newt Gingrich took power in 1994, through Tom DeLay's reign of terror, through BushCo's attempts to turn us into "weak-kneed, terrorist supporting, traitorous, girly men," are you about to forgive and forget?

Sorry, but I for one won't turn the other cheek. Once Kerry is in office, these swine will hunt him the same way they hunted Clinton and will try to impeach him for jaywalking. We've seen the Republican party for what they are: the enemy of decency, fairness, freedom and democracy.

Forgive and forget? Maybe someday, but not while there's still the possibility that these authoritarian bastards will ever again regain power over our lives.

[Walt Starr]

1. DAMN STRAIGHT!!!!

Republicans are my mortal enemies. They will NEVER be forgiven!

[tjdee]

2. That's bullshit, especially after 2000.

(the be nice theory, not your post LOL)
The man didn't win the popular vote, and even if he had, he would have had a VERY narrow victory.

But they just steamrolled in like they had some kind of mandate, the freeper types went to the Vice Presidential quarters and screamed for Al Gore to get out of Dick Cheney's house (before the election was even decided--not to mention he wouldn't have moved until January duh)...

I think Kerry will act presidential and conciliatory because that's how Democratic leaders are, for the most part. They're not Republicans.

[salinen]

3. Exactly!

The fight will just begin when Kerry takes office.

[bullimiami]

4. im sorry but NO WAY

there is hell to pay for the crap they have pulled in these 2 years they had the power.

in the house and senate they treated like there were no democrats and the administration acted like this was a dictatorship.

Sorry we will not get over it until the repug party changes its ways again.

[tsuki]

8. When they lose,

I don't think that we will have to do anything. They are going to start tearing at each other.

I'm going to get a box of popcorn and watch, and laugh...

[Star]

27. Republican civil war

Yes, tsuki, I'm with you.

On Bill Moyers last Friday night, his guest (can't remember his name, but he's a "thinking" Repub from the old school) said that no matter who wins, there's going to be a great internal struggle in the repub party. Too many of the paleocons are very, very upset with the neocons.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

54. Richard A. Viguerie

Let the Republicans rip themselves to shreds. It will hurt them in the 2006 congressional elections.

[Morning Dew]

63. I believe it was Richard Viguerie -

the internal Republican party war starts Wednesday, win lose or draw.

Get some popcorn, it might be good viewing.

[Grillymom]

5. I'm all for peaceful coexistence.

However, never forget, that the Democratic Party is the inclusive party, not the Republican party. That is a vastly important distinction.

[MockSwede]

50. BOYS of BRAZIL

They can emmigrate to Brazil like the Nazi party memebers did after WWII.

[4MoreYearsOfHell]

6. This group of lying Republican thieves

are the political equivalent of 9/11...

I will never even consider the thought of ever voting for a Republican candidate again.

Those with no honor and no shame are not deserving of consideration. I will fight them tooth and nail every step of the way.

[C_U_L8R]

7. They can run but they cannot hide

We'll take the battle to them.
We'll smoke them out of their caves.
We will not relent until the war against
right wing extremism is won
and freedom prevails.

:-)

[IdaBriggs]

9. I'm in the "hunt 'em down and make them suffer" category.

Every single person who didn't support Clinton in his efforts to get Osama no longer has a career. Every single company that employs an ex-Republican Lobbyist gets no more business from the government. Every single de-regulation gets re-regulated, and the anti-trust folks GO SUE HAPPY on the people who have been screwing this country.

I am filled with righteous rage at the people who have been in power. If one of them is living on wages higher than an Army infantryman currently in combat, I will consider this a FAILED administration. Let them eat welfare cheese!!!

:mad:

[MrModerate]

38. One area where I'd support substantial growth of government . . .

Is in the Justice Department.

I don't think there's anything to be gained by going after RW rank-and-file, but I do think vigorous prosecution of the Bush Administration's large collection of criminals might be worthwhile.

The FCC (once the board's reconstituted) might do a little work to see who has and hasn't violated the terms of their licenses.

Otherwise, I go with Rodney King and the "can't we all get along?" strategy. I'm convinced this is possible, because there are no really "blue" states or "red" states (well, Utah and Idaho, maybe) -- they're all purple, i.e., near 50% for each candidate, each party, each world view.

And we can't split the country down the middle -- we've ALL got to live here.

[giant_robot]

68. Amen to that

I hold all republicans responsible for the failings of the Bush administration. I don't want to hear any whining about party unity or toeing the party line. If Bush were successful, they'd reap the rewards, but Bush was a shameful failure, and they need to pay the price collectively. They can have an internal battle, split the party into christian right and libertarian-conservative, I really don't give a shit as long as they're not in an elected office while they do it.

It's the scorched earth strategy for me this tuesday, and probably for the rest of my life.

[isrealpackard]

10. Be the better person. Be the better party.

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld can all be put in jail as far as I'm concerned. We need to win the war, not just the battle. If Clinton's theme song was "Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow" what should tomorrow look like? People who support the President today should be made to feel comfortable about supporting the President on January 21.

America's greates enemy is not a right-wing cabal (however repellant) but an atmosphere of bitterness and divisiveness. Beat them completely, complete the victory by accommodating all responsible Americans. Let the right wing be the frothing lunatics. Don't stoop to their leve.

[Cyrano]

12. israelpackard, welcome to DU

I'm not talking about stooping to their level. I'm talking about self-defense. We should not take any steps to retaliate agains the average Republican voter. But we should be aware that these people hate our guts and that we can never, ever allow them to regain power.

P.S. I must disagree with you on a major issue. America's biggest threat IS the right wing. We can't be beaten by outside threats. The way this country will fail (given all of history) is through our domestic enemies, not our foreign ones.

[Karenina]

57. ACCOUNTABILITY.

First, all these neo-con players MUST be held ACCOUNTABLE for the damage they've done. I want an INDEPENDENT AUDIT of the Pentagon, Halliburton, Diebold, the *media und so weiter und sofort. We've seen precious little of that in recent times. TORTURE against innocents??? Rumsfeld STILL has a JOB??? SOMEONE MUST be held ACCOUNTABLE for what has happened in Afghanistan, Iraq, Haiti, AMERICA, before I'm willing to entertain any notion of "forgiveness." And if you think I'm being "too hard," BITE ME.

[sendero]

16. Yes...

.... but that atmosphere is bitterness and divisiveness is largely (not entirely, but over 90%) the fault of the Republicans.

Take Tom Daschle for instance. He has tried time and time again to be conciliatory to these jackasses, and none of his good deeds has gone unpunished.

As for the culture war in this country, I am hopeful for a dialog to open between both sides, and an accord reached. But I have no hope whatsoever for that happening on the political stage.

When Kerry takes office I hope he kicks asses and takes names like never before. These people are not interested in fair compromise, they are only interested in abusing their power. It's time for them to find out what it is like to be on the other side of that.

[isrealpackard]

26. We're winning a presidency, not the entire government

I blame the Republicans (and George Wallace) for poisoning national politics, but the fact is we're not going to have a LBJ-like mandate to settle scores. Are Frist and Haster going to fold up their tents just because a loser like GWB couldn't get re-elected.? The fact is that any governing is going to have to include Republicans, so we may as well make a virtue of necessity.

No doubt there will be SwiftWaterGate investigations as soon as Congress reconvenes, but Clinton won by staying above that level. If he could have kept his pants zipped, the frothers should have collapsed by 2000 under their own hubris.

[sendero]

40. There is a serious chance here..

.... for coattails. We don't need any mandate to settle scores. Bush* was settling scores when he basically lost the election.

I realize there is a limit to the power we will have, I'm merely saying that from now on, we should wield whatever power we do have in a purely partisan way, exactly as the Reps have been doing since Reagan. They've had a chance to play fair, that chance was squandered.

[struggle4progress]

11. Some more voter fraud, continuing black box hanky panky, ...

... a few more redistricting games, and the country will be spiraling towards civil war.

I know at least one person with very strong and long-established diplomatic tendencies who's telling people to buy guns.

[quiet.american]

13. There are Republicans and then there are Bush supporters

Truly, there are Republicans and then there are Bush supporters. The main difference being there are tons and tons of "Republicans for Kerry" out there who will be making the difference for Kerry with their vote. Generally, they are moderate, thoughtful people, willing to consider voting Democrat if it makes more sense for this country than voting for, as Mike Malloy says, "Man or Monkey." So, I don't condemn all Republicans.

Then, there are the Bush supporters. Rabid, frothing-at-the-mouth, face-twisted-in-rage bigots, racists, willfully ignorant, FAUX-News-watching sheeple who have made the word "Christian" one of the scariest in the world. I've come to the conclusion there is no quiet reasoning with these folk -- because logic simply doesn't play any role in their support for Bush. They don't care what damage he does, because it's more important to them to have someone in the White House who makes their own racism, bigotry, narrow-mindedness, ignorance, stupidity and mean-spiritedness okay. These are the true anti-Americans. And I hope to God there are more of us thinking people out here than them come election day.

[Cyrano]

19. quiet.american, welcome to DU. A thoughtful posting. I hope you're right.

[quiet.american]

24. Thanks, Cyrano

We can always hope, can't we? And our guy does say, Hope is on the way. :)

[punpirate]

14. I sincerely hope that...

... Bush misses a few of the neo-cons in his last-minute pardons, and Kerry's attorney general prosecutes the living shit out of those misses.

These people have been slinging mud for decades, and then say they want to work in a bipartisan fashion. I hope Kerry understands that when any Republican says he wants bipartisanship, he really means he's in favor of date rape. (After all, Grover Norquist said it, not me.)

And, I hope Kerry has someone in and behind the White House before Jan. 20th to put out the fires in all the burn bags. These assholes have tried to destroy the Constitution, so destroying evidence would give them no pangs of conscience whatever.

How Kerry does it, I don't know, but he needs to let the American people know, with plenty of evidence, that the government has indeed been in the hands of extremists.

[HawkerHurricane]

15. No Quarter!

No Quarter, NO QUARTER
You damn well earned your fate!
Give Wellstone our compliments,
We're sorry you are late.

[Vogon_Glory]

17. I'm Not Feeling Forgiving...

If the Kerry administration wins, I think that a high priority for the US Department of Justice would be to investigate the political and campaign finance corruption endemic under the Gee Dubya Bush administration--and let the chips fall where they may. Another high priority for a Kerry administration would be to institute long-overdue "trust-busting" efforts against Rupert Murdoch. Other corporate cronies of the GOP are also very inviting, legitimate targets for federal prosecution.

I see no reason to be particularly forgiving of Republican congressional representatives. During the Clinton administration and afterwards, they have proved time and time again that they were willing to put party ahead of country by hounding the Clinton administration instead of putting just enough of their animosity aside to help find common goals and tactics for fighting the terrorist threat facing the USA and American citizens.

I fear that the Kerry administration will only come in with the Democrats in at best tenuous control of the US Senate and the Republicans still controlling the House of Representatives. I think that a high political priority would be to take back the House, too.

[quiet.american]

23. DoJ/2nd Kerry Term

With FAUX-News still in place, a possible Republican Congressional majority still in place (although I don't think so!) and the frothing-at-the-mouth Bush supporters whipped up into a lather by Kerry's win, I don't expect Kerry to come down hard on Bush and his enablers in Kerry's first term. (Not if Kerry wants a second term in office.)

One thing I've learned about John Kerry from his campaign -- he chooses his moments carefully and for maximum advantage. I'm sure he's preparing a strategy that will hold Bush and his enablers' feet to the fire without himself getting burned, too.

[beyurslf]

18. Damn right! I am tired of being "nice" or "right".

While we stand on the sidelines saying we are on the right side of a just cause, they trample all over us. When it is all done and over, they walk by and say -- ooops you were right, but we won!

No more!

[librechik]

20. what good would it do for us to forgive them?

They wouldn't forgive us.

THEY'RE the haters who just can't stand people who are different from them. They pretend to be Christians, but turn the other cheek? The Golden Rule? Neither one of those things is in a Repukkkes character.

WE are the party of diversity and acceptance. We have already forgiven them, that's why we are so lousy at fighting back when they burn us. Has our forgiveness and tolerance of them changed their hatred and rejection of us?

[noamnety]

21. bygones - forgive and forget

Soon as the people who profitted from the war and from the medicare bill pay that money back to the system, and as soon as the corporations that were allowed to trash the environment finish cleaning up their mess, and as soon as the people involved in the election fraud in 2000 and those at the top who were responsible for the prison abuses are indicted, and as soon as they recover the lost explosives in Iraq and have a real investigation into 911, then I'll forgive and forget, no problem. I'm a reasonable person.

[meganmonkey]

22. If * wins (eeew), IMPEACH BUSH!!!

That's how the real Republicans in Congress can seperate themselves from the neo-con bushies.

Then we can talk about forgiving.

[billyoc]

25. Forgive, no. But we've got some lovely parting gifts...

Books:
"Correspondence Courses for Inmates" (handy in prison)
"The Ins and Outs of Gay Sex" (ditto)

Toiletries:
Variety pack of condoms (extra large)
Preparation H (5-25 year supply)

Am I forgetting anything? :evilgrin:

[The River]

28. As Soon As They Finish Their Prison Sentences

All will be forgiven.
If we are to EVER have
honest government, we have to
insist that law breakers go to jail.
No last minute pardons
No bull shit immunity

[Deja Q]

29. Well, there are two options:

1. Replace both political parties with new ones after asking the people what THEY want. Many repubs and I agree on many things (security, jobs/economy, middle class) but both sides have been brainwashed by the parties they cling to, not realizing that once the candidates get in, they bend over backwards for the almighty corporate dollar and to give themselves big monetary and benefits increases. We need real big reforms if America is to progress.

2. Keep this charade of freedom and unity going.

Either way, it's not going to happen.

Just sit back and enjoy life.

[quiet.american]

30. Obama's got it right....

Enough "us and them" -- let's get back to THE UNITED STATES of America.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

31. Nope no

matter what the result of this election I'm still fighting those fuckers with every ounce of strength I have.

Screw em. That's their philosophy towards the American people and that's my philosophy towards the repukes. Screw em.

[Stinky The Clown]

32. I mostly agree with you, but ........

let's not forget that there are also more than a few Republicans who don't like * and his crowd.

This country needs a strong opposition party. It keeps us all on balance. The Gringrich/DeLay/Bush cabal is not the old Republican party. That party (which was intellectually honest) has been hijacked by these thugs.

To be sure, I want no quarter given to the cabal in power now, nor to their enablers. But we do need to support a ressurected Republican party ... but only if their old liners win the coming civil war they will go through after this election. And I do beleive they will have a civil war in their party, no matter who wins the presidency this go-round.

But allow me to dream .......

In my fantasy land, the country, two or three years out, will have three parties as a result of the impending fracture of the current Republican party. A strong left-to-centrist party called the Democrats (40% of the electorate), a rising centrist to right leaning party called the Republicans (25% of the electorate), and a right-far right party called the Liberty Party (or some such code word for hate-facsism-racisim-theocracy)(10% of the electorate).

That Liberty party will house an alliance between the religious right and the neocons. The more intellectual conservatives will not be here.

[Weembo]

33. When they apologize

With a gasping, gurgling sound that whispers from their lips as I crush their tracheae with my size 13 shoe, I'll forgive them.

[bacchant]

34. My feelings exactly

"Bipartisanship is another word for date rape"

[Maiden England]

35. I have a distinction between neocons and republicans

personally the annihilation of all things neocon would be more than welcomed by me. However, I still believe in the principles of debate and of multiparty representation. I don't believe the democrats have all the answers, in fact I think that intelligent debate encourages intelligent thought about various issues and improves the quality of policies derived. We need an 'other' side to debate with. I would always encourage the interest and activity of moderate republicans, they need to get involved and take their party back, from the evil neonazis.

[Cyrano]

48. As long as there's a democratic party, there will never be the lack of

an "other" side with which to debate. Democrats have never marched in lockstep and our views range from the DLC on the right, to flower children on the left. There's plenty of room there for Republicans who haven't drank the Kool aid and two new (non-insane) parties can come out of that.

As for the remainder of KKK/Nazi bastards, let them go start up the John Ashcroft Party. That 10% to 15% of nuts will always be there.

[harpo]

36. Nope...never...they will not be able to forget as long as I'm around

[sandnsea]

37. They aren't going away

On Nov 3, it's time to recharge and strategize for the final fight. Media, corporate fascism, and religious radicals. It's time to take them out.

[BrewerJohn]

39. Exactly

We can't count on them imploding, however sweet that would be. Take the fascists down, make sure they can not be a force ever again, or we will be fighting them all over again before long.

[Tactical Progressive]

41. I think they will have earned and deserve forgiveness

once they've served their prison time.

I guess I just believe in second chances.

[cmf]

42. We can't lie down.

That's what happened in 1992 and look at the result. We need to keep fighting.

[CroixRoussienne]

43. De-Republification

JFK will, I am utterly confident, use every instrument of power in his arsenal to bring these thugs to ground - No Quarter. It is his Constitutional duty, and a very grave example must be set, an historical marker laid down that will resound down through the decades and centuries ahead. This subversion of all we hold dear cannot be allowed to be slipped into some diseased pustule of a memory hole on the body politic.

[Zorra]

47. Wow. That rocked!

You stole my post, only you said it way better than I was going to.

Welcome to DU, CroixRoussienne!
:hi:

[ThoughtCriminal]

44. Forgive? That would be like forgiving Japan after Midway

This election is just another battle.

[Cyrano]

45. Anyone on this thread notice one consistency throughout these posts.

We all know Kerry is going to win.

[The Magistrate]

46. That Cannot Be, Sir

There can be neither pity nor quarter.

Everything possible to demoralize those who support the enemy and to cripple its ability to control national office must be done, and with great energy.

"Always kick a man when he's down."

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[MockSwede]

49. Scorched Earth

no quarter given; none asked.

[Dr Fate]

51. They will never give us a reason to do that.

They will continue to attack us- we wont have time to forgive them in any meaningful way- we will be too busy w/ offense & defense.

[Generator]

52. Let's not

Sometimes fewer words are more.

[Warren DeMontague]

53. I suggest we prosecute the criminals to the fullest extent of the law...

I mean everyone from Dick Cheney and Robert Novak down to Nathan Sproul-- if it can be shown they broke the law.

Wholesale demonizing of the opposition, however, is counter-productive.

What I think we should do is point out that we are the party of tolerance, we are the party of inclusion, we are the party of fair play. If you want a bunch of theocratic kooks who want to throw your wife in jail for taking the birth control pill, and yell "democracy is on the march" while they're busy trying to keep people from the polls, yeah, you should vote Republican.

If we win this year- hopefully- it will deal a serious blow to the politics of slime. The poltics of fear. The politics of division and simplistic labeling. The Chickens of Newt Gingrich and Tom DeLay and their shitty-ass tactics will finally, it is hoped, be coming home to roost. It will be a victory for all of us who can still think.

So in the future, I want to see us fight smart-- certainly not ape their tactics. Should we "forgive and forget"? No. I think widespred wrongdoing has been done, from the Pentagon to the FCC, and it should be addressed. But we would be missing a golden opportunity to present the glaring differences between us and the other guys if we didn't take advantage of a Kerry victory to try to, in some sense, re-unify the nation.

[Cyrano]

55. Dear impeachdubya: I agree with the sentiment in your last sentence. But

to reunify the nation, we need to reach many, many Kool-aid drinkers and find a way to detox them. The hatred generated by the Republican party was bought and paid for by tremendously powerful interests.

And then we need to find a way to detox ourselves. The Republican slime machine worked hard at demonizing us. Our anger and hatred wasn't bought. It was a reaction to the anger and hatred directed at us. And by the actual acts that were committed against us through war, the destruction of the ecology and the economy, the demonization of our values, the questioning of our patriotism, the shredding of our constitutional protections...

Well, you get the idea. Reunifying this country is going to be as difficult as Jews reunifying with Germans after WWII. And if you think this is an exaggeration, ask some liberal friends how they feel about it.

The bottom line is that, we haven't gotten over the divisions and hatreds of the Civil War yet. And that was 140 years ago.

[Warren DeMontague]

58. "Ask some liberal friends"?

...What the hell am I?

Believe me, I know that our anger is well-deserved. I'm still pissed about what they did to Clinton. And I know unifying the country is a tall order. All I'm saying is, we should be smart about it- when the GOP goes overboard with across-the-board demonizations of people, for example, it gets the red meat, Ann Coulter/Michael Savage crowd worked up, but it alienates people.

Bush, after campaigning as a "uniter" (kaff!) proceeded to take the questionable results of a stolen election and use them as an excuse to govern as if he had a hard-right mandate. I think Kerry can (and probably will) take the opportunity of the opening of his term to display- clearly- the difference between him and his predecessor. Not by selling out basic principles, but by recognizing that for anything to get done we need to TRY to work past some of the deep divisions in the nation.

I think one challenge for the first 100 days of a Kerry Administration will be to avoid getting pigeonholed by the opposition (as, if you remember, Clinton did during the first months of 1993) ...one way he can do that is by broadly reaching out to all Americans.

Just my opinion.

Edit: This DOESN'T Mean I don't expect to see Tom DeLay in prison orange.

[Cyrano]

59. My apologies. Ease up. We're on the same side.

[Warren DeMontague]

60. That sounded more Irate than it was.

I apologize as well. Tone doesn't come across too well in HTML sometimes.

All I'm saying is, I don't run from the "L" word.

Peace.

:)

[Shopaholic]

56. Fuck that

hell no. NO. I noticed this morning on the Talk Shows how two of the Repugs were talking about reconciliation and working together and that really let me know right then and there that we were going to win and this was their way of begging them for forgiveness. As Chimpy said, "Fool me once. . .fool me. . .we won't get fooled again."

[nookiemonster]

61. NO EFFIN' WAY! NO QUARTER!

They expect us to roll over and enable them to pull this shit later.

As the shithead says "Fool me once...."

[symphony]

62. keep your friends close and your enemies - closer

I guess we need to keep and eye out for "future surprises" from our good repug "friends".

I will not forgive, but will avoid letting them control my life by making me upset.

[chieftain]

64. I'm happy to forgive them right after they get out of prison if

and only if they have rehabilitated themselves .

[in_cog_ni_to]

65. NEVER, EVER, EVER!!!!

I will NEVER forgive those bastards for what they have done and I WILL stay involved in politics for the rest of my life to make damn sure this NEVER happens again! No cheek turning here! I have a grudge and I'm holding on to it FOREVER. They will never have my forgiveness. I HATE them all! :grr: So there!

[Cyrano]

71. I don't mean to preach, but don't let your hate devour you.

Yes, we've got to keep these pigs out of power forever. But just as importantly, we've got to rebuild our country and try to repair the destruction they've brought down on us.

[Bake]

66. Forgive, my ASS!! Not in this lifetime.

They'll be plotting on Nov. 3 how to impeach Pres. Kerry.

You don't forgive a rattlesnake. You kill it. Same here.

Bake

[Gregorian]

67. One of the hardest things to do.

The idea is that we all get along. That can only happen if we forgive.
BUT, I keep thinking of Jesus kicking the money counters out of the temple.
You have brought up a very good point. And I don't know anyone who fully understands forgiveness.

I'll just say this- what good will it do to NOT forgive?

Maybe we should ponder that last question.

After all, look at all of the death and destruction this so-called war on terrorism has caused. Certainly, much more than what happened on 9/11. So how much better off is the world?

[tibbiit]

69. I say NO QUARTER

Scorched Earth to Re-pukes
tib

[ezekiel333]

70. I agree

The lines have been drawn.

[expatriate]

72. I say piss on them from a great height.

Chase down the ones who have broken laws, and prosecute.

I think they'll also tear each other to pieces, so I might start a popcorn stand while we watch the rattlesnakes committing suicide.

[StupidFOX]

73. Um... um.... um.......... um NO!

Maybe someday, after Chimpy, KKKarl, and Cheney all have their funerals and descend into Hell.

[Malebolgia]

74. I'll forgive them...

when Hell freezes over!!!

:grr:

[Shadow30]

75. The Republicans must be punished....

...they have gone to far in the last few years,they have become radicals.They put into office the worst and most dangerous president this nation has ever seen.Note that there is a difference between the anger of repugs and Dems.We are angry because this dangerous,criminal,radical GW is running this country while tearing it apart and bringing it to ruin.Republicans are angry because we Dems aren't taking it lying down,because we are fighting back instead of standing back and letting it happen.They just want us to fallen into line,they are angry because we choose to speak up.
The Republicans must learn that they are not the majority,that they cannot just steam roll over anyone that doesn't agree with them 100% of the time,that they cannot steal,lie,manipulate whenever they wish to further there own ends.The Repugs must learn to act like decent people again and that won't happen if we are nice to them.

[calimary]

76. I will forgive only those civilians around me misguided enough to vote

for bush. Many of them are just too busy being moms and dads trying to make a living and get their kids to school on time every day to follow things closely, or maybe obsessively, as I do. Only one or two of them was obnoxious about bush winning. Unfortunately, one of them moved back to the East Coast and is not around so I can gloat at her. I would. I would not - to pretty much everybody else. Besides, some of them are otherwise fairly reasonable people who just might be redeemable. I will take the high road with them.

Now, CONGRESS... and the media... and Dianne Feinstein, and EVERYBODY ELSE out there who capitulated, and bent over, and smarmed, and the republi-CONS who acted like assholes and tried to rub it in our faces - anybody who was a prick - they will get it up the ass from me. Time for a taste of their own medicine.

And by the way, any of them who give me a hard time, I shall not hesitate to remind them of the band of thugs that pounded on the doors of the vote counters in Florida, to frighten and intimidate them. I shall not hesitate to remind them of the utterly HORRENDOUS way they behaved during the days when the election was being contested, the "sore loserman" shit they threw at us, the EXTREMELY poor sportsmanship, the name-calling, the bullying, the aggressions, the complete savagery. And I will ask them what THEY would do to me if the tables were turned.

I will be calling EVERY republi-CON rep on Capitol Hill, whether they survived or they're on their way out, and remind them who won, and how many of us KNOW who won, and how - if they think they can start in with the Clinton treatment, they've got another thing coming. This AIN'T your father's Democratic Party anymore, pal. We don't just roll over and play dead. We don't say "how high?" when they bark "Jump!" at us (the proper response now is "FUCK YOU, ASSHOLE! JUMP YOURSELF!!!"). We don't even know how that's done, frankly.

Sorry for being a little crude.

Just consider this a dose of "the hair of the dog that bit ya" in honor of the dry drunk in the White House.

On second thought, I'll be glad to forgive them, when they admit they need to be forgiven, they admit WHAT they need to be forgiven for, and maybe also if they beg me.

[Cyrano]

78. Don't hold your breath.

I have a cousin who voted for Nixon and still thinks he was "hounded from office" by us Dems.

There are those who will go on believing in George long after it becomes an established, historical fact that the man was one of the greatest disasters this country ever suffered.

[bringbackfdr]

77. Forgive these steaming piles of heartless, gutless arrogance?

I'll forgive the Repukes when they apologize to Bill and Hillary Clinton for eight years of nonstop harrassment, costing the taxpayers of America millions of dollars.