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Captain Lance Bass Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 03:07 AM
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The Ultimate Pollster says KERRY WILL WIN!
Quit bein chicken littles.

What Zogby tells
me: Kerry wins

Pollster John Zogby, in a telephone interview with me yesterday, predicted that John Kerry will win the election. "It's close," he said, "but in the last couple of days things have been trending toward Kerry - nationally and in the swing states. Between this and history, I think it will be Kerry."

When Zogby talks, politicians listen. He made his bones in the Bill Clinton-Bob Dole election of 1996, when he came within one-tenth of a percentage point of the final tally.

Bet me that when the Bushies read what Zogby told me, not just the rhetoric will rise, but so will the fever.

Particularly since one of their favorite columnists, Robert Novak, reported in yesterday's Washington Post that Zogby called the race for President Bush in a conversation he had with the pollster on Monday.

Zogby was jocular about the Novak column, although he has decided not to post a comment on his Web site. Here's what he told me: "I said Bush was winning, I didn't say I thought he'd win. On Monday, he was indeed looking good. But on Tuesday, things changed. Kerry, in that one day, picked up 5 points."

Well, what about New Jersey? Al Gore took the Garden State by 16 points, and now the Quinnipiac poll makes it even. If Kerry loses Jersey, it could be a landslide for Bush, no, Mr. Zogby?

I could hear Zogby shrug. "New Jersey?" he said. "Take out your navy blue crayon and color Jersey dark. I don't even poll New Jersey."

The politicians of both parties appear to agree. If they believed Jersey was in play, Kerry and Bush would be in Newark and Jersey City on the spot. But nobody showed.

Maurice Carroll nodded - I heard that on the phone, too. Mickey runs the Quinnipiac poll, and being straight, he said, "It makes me trepidatious about our numbers."

What?

"I've gotta look it up, too," he laughed. "But of course when the politicians pay no attention, we have to wonder if we got it right."

And then he added: "Maybe because our poll had 6% undecided. Historically, the undecided vote goes big to the challenger."

Polls, polls, polls. Is that all there is, Alfie?

Let's check the London line. The legal bookies across the sea have been uncannily right over the years on our elections. They probably called 1776 for George Washington.

And on this one, the Republicans have to love it.

The latest line from sunny old England makes Bush, in their funny lingo, a 4-7 favorite. (Vegas would say it 7-4.) That's almost 2-to-1.

Maybe London looks at it this way because they don't have the benefit of our pundits, day in, day out. On the other hand, we don't need polls to tell us that the Brits hate the Iraq war and consider Dubya to be a cut under Jack the Ripper.

The one poll that chilled me yesterday went like this: "If the candidate you're against wins, will you still support him?"

Sixty-two percent said no.

Maybe not civil war, but certainly something that great Texan Jim Hightower could explain to us.

"If the gods wanted us to vote," Hightower once observed, "they'd have given us candidates."

Originally published on October 29, 2004
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 03:09 AM
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1. link?
;)
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Captain Lance Bass Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 03:13 AM
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2. Link
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Captain Lance Bass Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 03:17 AM
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3. Kerry has one-point lead over Bush
WASHINGTON: Democratic Sen. John Kerry moved into a one-point lead over President George W Bush three days before the presidential election, according to a Reuters/Zogby poll released on Saturday.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_31-10-2004_pg4_2
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Captain Lance Bass Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 03:26 AM
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4. Guess this positive thread is getting no kiks becuase?
Chicken little would have nothing to do?

C'mon PEOPLE go with the POSITIVE NEWS!

Or is it more fun to disect polls 9 ways to Sunday and run around going "The sky is falling"
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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 03:28 AM
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5. this is old news
AND published before the Bin Laden tape release.
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Captain Lance Bass Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 03:29 AM
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6. malatesta1137 pleeeze
OBL has NO impact
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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 03:31 AM
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8. no impact among people with brains
have you ever visited some of the RED states?
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Captain Lance Bass Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 03:34 AM
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9. Nope but lookee here
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 03:36 AM
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10. Read this
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Captain Lance Bass Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 03:39 AM
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11. If it did have an Impact it put JK up
see my 2nd link
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Captain Lance Bass Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 03:30 AM
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7. Old news my ass
Kerry has one-point lead over Bush

WASHINGTON: Democratic Sen. John Kerry moved into a one-point lead over President George W Bush three days before the presidential election, according to a Reuters/Zogby poll released on Saturday.
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