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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 12:45 PM
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Early Election Night Indicators - between 8:00 PM - 9:00
Watch for this one:
"Virginia is currently too close to call"

Others from eastern time zone:
NH for Kerry
WV for Kerry or too close to call
NC too close to call
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 12:46 PM
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1. I agree -eom
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 12:47 PM
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2. True. Also watch the numbers coming in from Indiana.
Bush won 57% to 41% last time. Polls indicate while a safe red State, that Bush is not polling as high as he should be. There could be some discontent with Bush.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 12:49 PM
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3. IN is in CST zone, I believe
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 12:56 PM
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8. No, Indiana is in EST, except for NW parts by Chicago

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NinetySix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 01:01 PM
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9. But it's those NW parts like Gary that are blue.
No call for IN will be made by 8 EST.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 01:06 PM
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10. Interesting... I didn't know that
looks like it is one of those states like AZ that is in one zone or the other depending on time of year (Daylight Savings)

http://www.worldtimezone.com/time-us12.html
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 02:53 AM
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32. True. neither Indiana nor Arizona observe Daylight Savings Time.
Don't know the story on why this is the case, but I blame the Quayle family because they are tied to both states.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 01:30 PM
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14. Also look at KY
I think IN's and KY's polls close at 6:00 PM ET.

Therefore, their results always appear first.

Bush is well ahead in both states and will indeed win them both, but we should look at the percentages to see how close they are compared to the prevailing polls before the election.
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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 04:37 PM
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22. I really don't think there's a chance
Edited on Sat Oct-30-04 04:40 PM by End of all Hope
Here in Louisville, I think one gets a distorted view of the state's leanings, since downtown crawls with Kerry/Edwards signs and stickers. My UK friends tell me there's some similar stuff goin on in Lexington, though I don't know personally. I have little doubt that Jefferson county will go Kerry. However, the polls tell a different story for the state of Kentucky.

I have rarely been to the more obscure parts of Kentucky, so once again I am myopic about the political leanings of the whole state. But, from what I've read I suspect that the Bush supporters are, ironically, in the areas that are most stricken with poverty, most dependent on outside subsidies, and most likely to suffer from a Bush presidency. It is really mystifying and I don't know what can be done in the foreseeable future about this.
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 12:52 PM
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4. I have an early indicator.
The 30 or so residents of Dixville Notch, NH vote at midnight on Election Day. The town clerk then announces the winner. (C-SPAN usually covers this event live.) If Kerry wins, it's all over. Democrats seldom win there, although Clinton did in 1992. Even if Kerry comes close, it's a great sign.

As far as whole states are concerned, I think New Hampshire is a good measure. It leans right, its polls close early, its votes are counted quickly due to its small size, Nader is a factor, and GOTV troops are everywhere on the ground. If Kerry wins NH by a large margin early-on in the evening, it's a very good sign. If Kerry squeaks-by, it'll be a nail-biter. And if Kerry loses.. break-out the Maalox.
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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 01:27 PM
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12. Is there a site with info on this?
Im supposing they went for * in 2000, I truly dont remember. Id like to see the history.
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deadmessengers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 12:53 PM
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5. PA
How about Pennsylvania being called for Kerry one minute after the polls close? That would be a good sign, right?
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 12:54 PM
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7. PA is a lock IMO... anything but a steady Kerry lead or early call
would be an early BAD indicator.
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 12:53 PM
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6. I have an even earlier one.
The 30 or so residents of Dixville Notch, NH vote at midnight on Election Day. The town clerk then announces the winner. (C-SPAN usually covers this event live.) If Kerry wins, it's all over. Democrats seldom win there, although Clinton did in 1992. Even if Kerry comes close, it's a great sign.

As far as whole states are concerned, I think New Hampshire is a good measure. It leans right, its polls close early, its votes are counted quickly due to its small size, Nader is a factor, and GOTV troops are everywhere on the ground. If Kerry wins NH by a large margin early-on in the evening, it's a very good sign. If Kerry squeaks-by, it'll be a nail-biter. And if Kerry loses.. break-out the Maalox.
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adapa Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 01:39 PM
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16. NH will be blue
From the mountains of New Hampshire-
I'm not the betting type but I'd put $ on a Blue NH come election night.
And yes, Dixville Notch is a gem <;-)> of course it went for Clark in the primaries.
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Catt03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 04:51 PM
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23. Maybe Clark should make one more visit to Dixville
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michigandem2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 01:24 PM
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11. have no reason to believe this but a gut instinct says
NC will or could possibly go blue...I just have it in the back of my mind...that might be our first surprise of the evening...

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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 01:27 PM
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13. This North Carolinian feels exactly the same way.
I've *NEVER* seen the Democrats energized in this state like this before.

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Road Scholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 01:31 PM
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15. You go uh..uh.. you Tar heel !!! n/t
:)
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 01:56 PM
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17. "Numerous reports of voter intimidation throughout the country"
"UN Election observers held hostage by radical right wing group"

"Senator Bunning swinging naked from flagpole on 50th floor of Knoxville office building"

"Bush's only lead is in home state of Texas"

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deadmessengers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 04:07 PM
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18. Bunning? Knoxville?
Somehow I don't think the people of Knoxville, Tennessee would get that worked up over an election in Kentucky.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 04:09 PM
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20. The guy IS confused.
:silly:
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deadmessengers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 01:48 AM
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27. Very true
I guess Alzheimer's patients do have a tendency to run off.
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 04:28 PM
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21. He's so crazy...
He wound up in the wrong state. Claims aliens picked him up in a space ship and took him out of Nashville. At least according to Fox News....

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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 04:08 PM
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19. I agree on VA
I think that might be a sign.
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johnkerryyip145 Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 04:54 PM
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24. i am so excited for election day
i am definitely *NOT* a morning person but i *will* get up bright and early to go vote foy my boy Kerry. God bless America!
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 02:09 AM
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28. Welcome to DU
:hi:
My mother (who is probably even less of a morning person than you are! :-) ) asked me when the polls open here ("here" is a little Appalachian hamlet in SW Virginia). I said they open at 6. She said, "So, do you mind getting there about 5:45?"

Background: She's in her 80's, been apolitical since Kennedy-Nixon, hadn't even been registered to vote for the last 15 years or so... But but she can't wait to get in there and vote to send boosh* packing. If she's any indication, Virginia is definitely in play... :thumbsup:
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 05:30 PM
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25. Breaking News
"It appears that Texas has gone for Kerry." :P

might not happen until late because the polls don't close in el paso until 7pm mountain time.

dg
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 01:10 AM
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26. Early indicators...NH , OH, and PA...once those are safe...
then hold your breath for FL, MI, and WI...if we get those six, we got it...even if we get 5 of the six, we win...

If we get four or less, then its gonna be a bad night...
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 02:42 AM
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29. Four is still pretty okay
as long as OH and PA are two of those. I've got this feeling that they're going to wait a loooooong time to call FL, considering the events the last time around.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 02:44 AM
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30. West Virginia
I hope/expect to see NH. I'm not fully confident about NC. But if WV is too close to call, I'll be feeling pretty good about our chances.

Of course, four years ago when I heard FL called for Gore as I was driving home, I knew we'd one it, and we all know how that turned out :(:(
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 02:46 AM
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31. Also, New Jersey
I know we'll win New Jersey, but if the early results show Kerry in the solid double digits, I'll feel like this super-turnout talk is something we can probably count on.
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missouri dem Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 03:12 AM
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33. I think that we may have a pretty good idea by noon
on Tuesday. If the media reports massive turnout at the polls then w* can start packing.
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