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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 11:42 PM
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Looking for suggestions to show mother what * is really about
It may be a futile attempt, but I'm hoping to get my mother think about the kind of pres that's sitting in the WH. He's not as godly as she seems to believe.

It would be nice to give her something to think about while she's standing in the voting booth.

Any ideas?
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darkism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 11:43 PM
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1. The video of his "one finger victory salute" n/t
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 12:07 AM
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10. I second that. Here's the link.
Catches Shrub's true character.

http://www.fdiskc.com/movies/bushuncensored.mov

and here's a lovely still from it.

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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 11:43 PM
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2. F-911

Worked with my mother.

Before she watched it, she was afraid and uncertain. After she watched it, she was pissed.

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 11:44 PM
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3. Give her the article found at this link...
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 11:46 PM
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4. I got this today from the Daily Misleader
Edited on Fri Oct-29-04 11:46 PM by Kerryfan
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Knurled99 Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 11:51 PM
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5. See if you can find Al Gore's speech from C-Span
Search "Former vice president Al Gore speech" and find the most recent one.. it was talked about alot on Democraticunderground.com. This speech totally rocked! It definitely addressed the whole religous issue vis a vis GW.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 11:53 PM
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6. Yes! Gore's speech at Georgetown!
Go to C-span.org. You'll find the link to the video there!
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 11:58 PM
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7. How about this?
Iraq war 'unjustifiable', says Bush's church head

Ed Vulliamy in New York
Sunday October 20, 2002
The Observer

President George Bush's own Methodist church has launched a scathing attack on his preparations for war against Iraq, saying they are 'without any justification according to the teachings of Christ'.
Jim Winkler, head of social policy for United Methodists, added that all attempts at a 'dialogue' between the President and his own church over the war had fallen on deaf ears at the White House.

His remarks came as the US continued its efforts to achieve agreement on a UN resolution that would open the way for a tough programme of weapons inspections in Iraq. France is believed to be concerned that the current draft resolution might still act as a trigger for military intervention without a full Security Council debate if Iraq fails to comply.

Winkler is general secretary of the Board of Church and Society for the United Methodist church, which counts the President and the Vice-President, Dick Cheney, among its members. The church represents eight to nine million regular churchgoers and is the third biggest in America.

The Methodist Church, he says, is not pacifist, but 'rejects war as a usual means of national policy'. Methodist scriptural doctrine, he added, specifies 'war as a last resort, primarily a defensive thing. And so far as I know, Saddam Hussein has not mobilised military forces along the borders of the United States, nor along his own border to invade a neighbouring country, nor have any of these countries pleaded for our assistance, not does he have weapons of mass destruction targeted at the United States'.

Winkler said his church was 'keenly aware' that it counted the President and his deputy among its members, and that he was therefore 'frequently encouraged by others to be very careful about how I say things'.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12239,815693,00.html
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 12:04 AM
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9. I second this posting suggestion if your mother is religious.
I attend a Methodist seminary and this is all true. It was what I had planned on posting.

Most mainline religions have also condemned the Iraq war: Catholics, United Church of Christ, American Baptists, Presbyterians, Quakers, etc. Statements about the immorality of that conflict are posting at all their web sites.

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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 11:59 PM
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8. his appointees speak for themselves
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Aunt Anti-bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 12:17 AM
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11. What's worked for me with a lot of people is
the PNAC website. As soon as I point people there and they look around they soon realize that something is really fishy. Then, they open up to talk about everything else. Just show her the website and the letter to Clinton they wrote in 98 and the list of names of the people involved. www.newamericancentury.org

Before you show her the site, you may want to look at this site which outlines the pnac. www.pnac.info
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