The missing explosives: they're muddying the waters, but this is simple

[EarlG]

Okay, with all this talk of Russian special ops and explosives that can be used to detonate nuclear weapons, the right-wing spin machine is doing a pretty good job of muddying this story. This is their favorite thing to do - if they can't spin a story to their favor, confuse the issue enough so the media gives up on it.

THIS IS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW.

1. The Bush administration didn't have enough troops, or didn't order the troops they did have, to guard the Al Qa Qaa weapons compound.

2. High explosives, still sealed with IAEA seals on at least April 18, 2003, were not guarded, and subsequently looted. This is the fault of the Bush administration.

THAT'S IT.

For extra credit:

3. We should be thanking our lucky stars that there WERE no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, because if there were, they would have been left in the same unguarded state as the high explosives. And thanks to the Bush administration's incompetence, they would have been looted too.

[ibegurpard]

1. It's not us that need to hear this

It's the media.

[EarlG]

5. Yeah, I know

I guess the fact that CNN is still running with the bogus "Russian special ops" story is pissing me the hell off.

[papau]

10. When will they pick up the SEAL photos from KSTP TV -we had sealed bunkers

Seals used by the IAEA (top). A seal on an Iraqi bunker door videotaped by a 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS crew on April 18, 2003 (bottom).

OK but which they had said more about this "seal" image that they posted to their web site.



BREAKING from KSTP (photos of IAEA seals)

http://kstp.com/article/stories/S3741.html?cat=1

A 5 Eyewitness News crew in Iraq may have been just a door away from materials that could be used to detonate nuclear weapons. The evidence is in videotape shot by Reporter Dean Staley and Photographer Joe Caffrey at or near the Al Qaqaa munitions facility.

The video shows a cable locking a door shut. That cable is connected by a copper colored seal.

A spokesperson for the International Atomic Energy Agency told 5 Eyewitness News that seal appears to be one used by their inspectors. "In Iraq they were used when there was a concern that this could have a, what we call, dual use purpose, that there could be a nuclear weapons application."

[Junkdrawer]

2. It's all the IAEA's fault...

If they had told the Bushies that Oil-For-Food records were stored there, BushCo would have made guarding the site a high priority.

Piss poor planning on the IAEA's part, IMHO.

[displacedtexan]

3. And these were "dual use" explosives materials.

Weren't "we" worried about nukes?????????????

Guess not.

How humiliating to let the Russians and the French get away with stealing these WMDs under our very noses!

</sarcasm>

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[specter]

4. And just why

would Russia need their high explosives???? ohh maybe they ran out of their own hmmmmm... thats it. Of course the fact that they have just about as many nukes as us isnt really a factor in them needing these high explosives. Or maybe they are selling these high explosives to syria instead of selling them some of their own nukes.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

6. If their lie that the materials weren't there before they got there

were true, then they'd roll out the satellite images to back it up.
No photos? No proof.

[RedEarth]

7. Perhaps there were WMD's, and they too were looted....that's really

is a scary thought....one my son brought up prior to the war.

[sandnsea]

8. #3, no shit

Hopefully we'll get that Minneapolis clip on the teevee so people will have to believe it. That would have Bush up to his chin in pretzels. What would have happened if there were WMD... *gag cough choke* The entire Administration is drummed out of office, never to be seen again.

[The_Casual_Observer]

11. Explosives had no political value at the time

However, they do now.
:)

[Mandate My Ass]

12. Excellent observation

Evidence points to motive, your honor.

The prosecution is never required to establish motive, but when they manage do so successfully...:nuke:

[Bandit]

13. Well there is more to know

There is a report that there are over ten thousand similar sites in Iraq and I want to know if they are also unsecured and emptied out as well. We know one thing for certain. all of these sites were secure before the invasion and now they aren't.