If there is a 269-269 EC vote tie and we win back the senate....

[HeldsBelds]

The house will vote for Bush because republicans control the state delegations..but who would the democrats in the senate vote for Vice President?

Edwards or Kerry ?

[Longhorn]

1. If I recall, it would be the current Senate and House that would vote.

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong about that.

[sonicx]

2. i think so. a tie would be a Bush win.

let's not have that happen.

[HeldsBelds]

4. no the vote is in january

the next senate will vote.

[M_Demo_M]

5. It's the current House of Reps only

The Senate does not get a say in the matter

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9. house picks the prez; senate picks the veep

[serryjw]

16. That is correct..EXCEPT newly elected NOT

current

[HeldsBelds]

10. no

the house picks the president.

the senate picks the vice president.

[M_Demo_M]

12. You are correct

I was only talking about the President
when I said the Senate gets no say.

[Guaranteed]

7. Nuh uh...seriously?

And the Senate votes for the VP?

LOL I gotta read the Constitution more...

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6. it's the new congress, which takes over jan 3.

[unblock]

11. you might be thinking about the current veep getting a vote

it's the new senate (as of jan 3) except that cheney will still be the tie-breaker since his term isn't up until jan 20.

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3. can't be kerry

they have to chose from among the candidates for vice-president who received electoral votes. kerry wouldn't qualify.

[HeldsBelds]

8. are you sure?

I thought they could pick anyone they wanted. I see to remember in 2000 Gore could have been VP if the senate had to vote for Veep because the Florida legislature was threatening to send their own slate of electors and the election would be thrown into the house.

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13. from the twelfth amendment:

"The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two- thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

in fact it has to be the top 2 candidates for vice-president.
so the senate would chose between edwards and cheney. no other options.

[HeldsBelds]

15. that would be so weird

having bush as president and edwards as VP.

What would Edwards do as VP in a Bush administration?

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18. edwards would be president of senate and nothing else

no way would he have any executive role whatsoever. so he'd basically be just another senator, except he holds the gavel.

oh, and, of course, he'd secretly pray for bush's death.

[HeldsBelds]

17. what happens

if the democrats boycott the senate vote in protest and do not meet the quorum requirement of the constitution?

They need 2/3 or 67 people to vote and the democrats could just walk out.

Then what? Constitutional crisis?

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19. well the media would CALL it a constitutional crisis, but

they just LOVE calling any reference to the constitution a constitutional crisis.

seems pretty clear to me that the office of the vice-president would simply be vacant until they actually voted. i see nothing constitutionally controversial about that.

once the new president is sworn in, he could try to appoint a vice-president, which would be a way to get someone other than the top two veep vote-getters in, but still, the senate must act on this. if not, the office remains vacant.

[ThoughtCriminal]

14. New Senate

Also, the House vote for President is each state delegation gets 1 vote.

http://news.inq7.net/opinion/index.php?index=2&story_id=15111&col=75

Bush - Edwards
Kerry - Cheney

But the scariest is still Bush - Cheney

On edit:
If it's Bush - Edwards, it makes a Bush impeachment much more interesting.