Catholics Take Note - Bush stooges just tried to dupe the Vatican

[troublemaker]

Talk about saying or doing "anything" to win an election! It doesn't get much lower than this.

Vatican Says Anti-Kerry Lawyer Hoodwinked Them

Oct 20, 11:17 AM (ET)
By Philip Pullella

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - A conservative U.S. lawyer's attempt to enlist the Vatican in his drive to declare Senator John Kerry a heretic over his abortion views backfired Wednesday when the Holy See said it had been hoodwinked.

Marc Balestrieri, head of a conservative Catholic group called De Fide, has been pushing for the Church to rule that the Democratic presidential candidate has inflicted excommunication on himself because he supports a woman's right to an abortion.

Balestrieri caused a stir in the United States this week when he asserted in interviews and on his Web site that he had won an unofficial and indirect green light from the Vatican.

But Wednesday, the Vatican denied his assertions, which received widespread coverage in major U.S. media.

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http://reuters.myway.com/article/20041020/2004-10-20T151709Z_01_L20123025_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-CAMPAIGN-KERRY-VATICAN-DC.html

[Jasper 91]

1. Why do these so-called religious people

Feel the need to lie all the time ? Are they really saying that they don't believe in God , and therefore don't expect to be held to account for their sins ?

[tomfodw]

4. They think they're serving a "higher truth"

God wants Bush to be President, so therefore anything they do in furtherance of that goal is by definition justified.

[Jasper 91]

9. Their very actions are against God's will .

Can they not see if they have to lie , they must be wrong in their beliefs ? They are moving away from God .

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

14. Fundamentalists like Bush think they're already saved.

Therefore anything they do is forgiven

[troublemaker]

2. Catholic News article:

By Cindy Wooden
Catholic News Service

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- An official at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith said a California canon lawyer seeking a formal decree of heresy against Sen. John F. Kerry of Massachusetts, Democratic presidential nominee, has misrepresented his contact with the Vatican office.

"The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has had no contact with Mr. (Marc) Balestrieri," said Dominican Father Augustine DiNoia, undersecretary of the congregation.

"His claim that the private letter he received from (Dominican) Father Basil Cole is a Vatican response is completely without merit," Father DiNoia told Catholic News Service Oct. 19, declining to discuss the matter further.


http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0405749.htm

[merh]

11. Hmmmm, confession sounds in order.

Wonder if Balestrieri has arranged for his confession yet!
For penance, say 3 Our Fathers, the Rosary and vote for John Kerry!

[troublemaker]

3. LBN Thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x916439

[GreenPartyVoter]

5. At least the Vatican swatted these idiots down.

[troublemaker]

6. But the swine got their story out yesterday, which was the point

Now the vatican smack-down needs to be just as widely reported. Not holding my breath on that...

[GreenPartyVoter]

7. Oh, I dunno. I think what will happen is that the priests who

are rabidly against Kerry will not mention it to their parishioners, but the rest of them will probably do so.

[troublemaker]

8. Yes. I was wondering the same thing about local church reaction

[merh]

10. So if the Weed that would be King were a Catholic

he would automatically be excommunicated!

"You can incur excommunication 'latae sententiae' (automatically) only if you procure or perform an abortion," one said.

[noonwitch]

12. Bishop Thomas Gumbleton of Detroit wrote a great editorial today

Today's Detroit Free Press: "President's policies are in opposition to a culture of life"

"Any politics of human dignity must address issues of racism, poverty, hunger, employment, education, housing and health care. Applying this agenda as the guide, it is clear that the president's words have not translated into action".

Bishop Gumbleton further points out that abortion rates have increased under Bush's presidency, that over 1000 american soldiers have died in Iraq, 7000 have been injured and an estimated 13,000 innocent Iraqis have died.

He ends by saying:

"What we will not do is vote for a candidate just because he uses words that we like to hear; remembering, as scripture tells us, that we must be "doers of the Word and not hearers only".


www.freep.com

look for the editorial page.

[MsTryska]

13. WHy are all these fundamentalists

taking over the Church?


are they the only ones willing to stick out the pedophile priests?


I want normal Catholicism back please. guilt and all.