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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 10:57 AM
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Poll question: Which Form of Government are the Neo-cons Advocating?
Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 11:04 AM by NightOwwl
"That's not the way the world really works anymore. We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

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Absolute Monarchy: an idealised form of government, a monarchy where the ruler has the power to rule their country and citizens freely with no laws or legally-organized direct opposition telling the monarchy what to do, although some religious authority may be able to discourage the monarch from some acts.

Democracy: a form of government under which the power to alter the basic laws and forms of government lies with the voting citizenry, referred to as "the people", and all decisions are made by representatives who act by their consent, as enforced by elections and the rule of law.

Dictatorship: a government headed by a dictator or more generally to any authoritarian or totalitarian government. It is often equivalent to a police state, but the term "dictatorship" refers to the way the leaders gain and hold power, not the watch kept on the citizens.

Kleptocracy: a form of government that means literally "rule by thieves". It is the end-point of political corruption, where no pretence of honesty remains, and the government of a country exists solely to enrich its rulers and to perpetuate their rule. Kleptocrats often use money laundering and anonymous banking as a way of protecting and concealing their ill-gotten gains.

Totalitarianism: any political system in which a citizen is totally subject to state authority in all aspects of day-to-day life. It goes well beyond dictatorship or typical police state measures, and even beyond those measures required to sustain total war with other states. It involves constant brainwashing achieved by propaganda to erase any potential for dissent, by anyone, including most especially the state's agents.

All definitions from Wikipedia: Forms of government
link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Forms_of_government
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 11:00 AM
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1. Oligarchy
Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 11:02 AM by soothsayer
Oligarchy
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Oligarchy is a form of government where most political power effectively rests with a small segment of society (typically the most powerful, whether by wealth, military strength, ruthlessness, or political influence). The word oligarchy is from the Greek for "few" and "rule". Some political theorists have argued that all societies are inevitably oligarchies no matter the supposed political system.

Oligarchies are often controlled by a few powerful families whose children are raised and mentored to become inheritors of the power of the oligarchy, often at some sort of expense to those governed. In contrast to aristocracy ("government by the 'best'"), this power may not always be exercised openly, the oligarchs preferring to remain "the power behind the throne", exerting control through economic means. Unlike plutocracy, oligarchy is not always a rule by wealth, as oligarchs can simply be a privileged cadre. It has also been suggested that most communist states fit the definition of oligarchy.
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much more here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligarchy
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Coyul Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 11:01 AM
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2. none of the above
fasist=corporate run government.
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 11:02 AM
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3. I'll have to go with Kleptocracy
Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 11:03 AM by NightOwwl
Rule by thieves
No pretense of honesty remains

Hmm, that sounds familiar...
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 11:06 AM
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4. Theocratic Kleptocracy .........n/t
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 11:13 AM
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5. Yeah, I'd go with that one too. They not only want to steal our
money, they want our souls as well.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 11:43 AM
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6. Absolute monarchy.
If we are an empire, it requires an emperor. The powers that wish to be may select a new emperor occassionally, but elections are meant only to keep the ruling party in power.

Biblical rulers were all kings. They were annointed by prophets to the service of god (not the nation).

"I don't see that I have to explain myself to anybody. Now, other people may need to explain themselves to me..."

Sound familiar?
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Shadow30 Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 11:56 AM
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7. I say Kleptocracy at least for now...
...should Bush manage to steal another 4 years I think it will be a bit different.I think you'll start to see stronger elements of religion in public life,anyone that thinks they were appointed by God to run this country...well they can only hold that back for so long.There then will be these elements of a theocracy with a Kleptocracy.
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