I'd get behind a Democrat who wanted to make unions illegal

[Proud2BAmurkin]

Bottom line, we're going to lose much more important rights than the right to collective bargaining if Bush wins. I think it would be sad, and I know a lot of people who wouldn't be able to make a living without unions.

However.

If we give up on that particular right, then the corporations wouldn't have that particular single-issue vote necessarily going toward Republicans.

Think of all the MILLIONS OF DOLLARS we could start getting from corporations. The union votes we lost would be made up for by all the votes from rich people we would bring in.

We have much more serious environmental issues out there to deal with. We're losing our forests. We've already lost clean air, clean water, public hunting and fishing areas, the right to abortions, actually the entire bill of rights, free elections...

We could lose our whole democracy if GWB gets to appoint a couple Supreme Court Justices.

We've most certainly lost freedom of speech and the right to assemble. We could easily blow the possiblity of a separation of church and state.

This is quickly becoming 1984.

Give it up on the unions, and we're back in the catbird's seat.

[acmavm]

1. What's with the posts? Is this a game? Are you being sarcastic? Do you

really advocate allowing sneak and peak searches? Do you really advocate getting rid of all unions? What is your point?

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[SlavesandBulldozers]

3. uh.

this is a joke right. an incredibly stupid joke?

[redsoxliberal]

4. not funny anymore.

[proud2BlibKansan]

5. As a former union member

I am behind you 100% on this one.

I am a teacher and I have belonged to both major unions - AFT and NEA. I quit one because of corruption in our local leadership then joined the other. What caused me to quit that one is something they are both guilty of. POLITICS! I never will understand why a teachers union takes a stance on abortion. There are a dozen other non education issues they are involved in as well. Makes zero sense to me.

Whenever they try to recruit me back, I tell them I wiil rejoin as soon as I see the focus of the union on teaching and learning, and ONLY on teaching and learning. But I am NOT holding my breath.

[BootinUp]

6. So if Bush said he was a Democrat?

you would vote for him?

I think the ham sandwich humor makes more sense.

[splat]

7. mush

"Think of all the MILLIONS OF DOLLARS we could start getting from corporations."

Uh, sure, they'd give each identical party millions to have parties with.

[blueknight]

9. what a idiotic fucking post.

why would corporations give money to us? we are against everything they stand for. outsourcing,enviroment,decent wages, etc. you need to take a civics class, idiot

[Lefty48197]

8. I wouldn't. I'd kick him in the nuts.

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[alisongiggles1960]

10. You're against a living wage and for sucking up to the rich?

You're either rich, a republican or completely uninformed about history before the inception of unions.

You use left wing concerns to justify destruction of the middle class? How does making the nation impoverished improve matters?

I doubt any genuine Dem would agree that destruction of the middle class is worth a few votes. The numbers of Dem votes lost would be FAR greater than the paltry few rich votes gained.

I bet you thought Free Trade was a great idea too.

[sangh0]

11. Unions are a "Disruptive Wedge Issue"

.

[Syncronaut Seven]

12. You lookin for a fight Bub?

I stand behind our unions 98% (no ones perfect). UFCW has gone to bat for us twice when employers tried to drive my wife out of her place of employment.

Harassment campaigns that started, coincidently, 90 days before she was due to become partially vested and again starting 90 days from being fully vested. Management wanted to save money.

In grocery I hear this is quite a common practice. Harassment stopped dead after the union called the employer.

Ya want to go after unions? Start with the California corrections union, then get back to me.

The people at UFCW and IBEW are gods to me.

Edit: Oh, Satire, I get it. Just woke up, no coffee.

[Moderator]

13. Locking....

If you have a point to make, please make it
in one thread.



Thank you.


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