Several threads here on DU have raised questions about *'s health....

[whistle]

....What do we know for sure? Is George W Bush suffering from a physical health crisis? What real evidence exists that the president may be physically unfit to serve another four years in the office of the presidency? Why can't the president be forced to submit to a full physical before the election? How can pressure be brought to get the truth?

Please post opinions, stories, links, whatever to bring this out ASAP.

[Mizmoon]

1. No, we can't make him get a physical

There is only baseless speculation that anything is wrong with him. Physically, I mean :)

[Bandit]

11. Why do you say baseless?

I have heard many legitimate concerns expressed here.

[Mizmoon]

12. I haven't seen anything that convinces me

he's got heart disease or needs a liver transplant or anything serious like that.

[liberalmuse]

2. He looks like crap.

And so does Cheney. Other than that, there really is no evidence that they are physically unfit.

[splat]

3. Forced medical exams are a little tacky n/t

[havocmom]

4. People all over America have to pee in a bottle to be employed

Not asking much for the CIC to do the same. We are his employers and we deserv to know what chemicals he may be using. Not like we are insisting on a DNA sample like military personnel are required to give.

[whistle]

5. How about a public media drum-beat for the president to submit to a...

...physical exam, something is clearly not right with regard to the physical health of either Bush or Cheney

[Unstuck In Time]

7. Absolutely. Of course we can't "force" him to take a physical, but...

... we can do our best to raise the question, make it an issue.

[TaleWgnDg]

6. here you go (dusting off the constitution) . . . show me where?

Kindly show me where our beloved U.S.of A. constitution mandates a physical? an M.D.'s look-see? where?

Yup. No where, that's where. Even the 25th A is voluntary. Think about it. The incapacity of a sitting president is a voluntary act of the president. Who's gonna force him to have an M.D. or two stamp him on the forehead "unfit for office?"

Again. No one, that's who. And, no, congress won't snitch on a sitting president as the 25th says it can. No way. It would be a dumb political precedent that any opposing party would make hay outa -- think about that stupid impeachment of Clinton's and how the Senate stopped it dead in its tracks so as NOT to set such a political precedent of impeachment removal!

Think about it. Didn't Ronnie Reagan hum strangely for at least 6 or maybe more -- could be his entire 8 years? Who invoked the 25th? Nobody. Instead, they hid his dementia under the rug.

The bottomline is unless a president is comatose and congress pitches him out in accordance with the 25th A, he's in, period.

edited to add a ",".

edited again to add these 2 urls: (1)http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment25/ . . . and . . . (2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

[whistle]

8. How about a public outcry demanding that the president reassure voters

...as to his fitness to serve and a media drum-beat demanding that the president submit to a full physical exam to be made public? In other words, pressure.

<sorry dupe, thought the previous comment did not take....DU is running very slow on my end this morning)

[TaleWgnDg]

10. Ummmm, w/o being sarcastic b/c your question and demand is

an earnest one.

But have you forgotten about the "news media" these days? It's become biased -- the so-called "news media" has sold its soul to those who sign their paychecks, i.e., the corporations who run ads, the corporations who own the networks that want their FCC licenses in order, and the corporations who contribute, indirectly (and in various tax loopholes), to the whitehouse entourage?

No longer is news broadcast from the mouths of Edward R. Murrow, Walter Cronkite as a "public service" loss leader as in "the old days." Today, the so-called "news" is driven by profit and profit alone due to its heightened commercial competition (bless capitalism by these rightwingnuts) and the unwinding of the FCC.

So, who is left to carry this torch that you want them to bear? Where is the champion of diversity? of objective journalism?

If it's grassroots you want, then we need much more time than that that is presently available, and you also need a viable organization. Did you think that is why Sinclair dropped this "bomb" w/i such short time of the general election? Not only for its 11th hour impact but also when no one could do as you suggest.

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P.S. take a look-see at this guy's info at wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?ns0=1&ns9=1&ns11=1&search=Roger+Ailes&searchx=Search

on edit: I don't mean to sound as if all is lost. Because I believe, w/o researching it, that it may be legally possible to enjoin (to stop) Sinclair by filing the appropriate challenge in a federal court of law. But I am no expert in this area of law. I trust, however, that Kerry has competent legal counsel. Lots of legal counsel.

[jarab]

9. Good points.....

This is a no win desire to mandate a physical. Don't we know the results before the fact? The doc works for him.
The result of any physical at this critical time is "excellent!".
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