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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:56 PM
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Reading This Will Make You Love Kerry Much, Much More
Spirituality is a fundamental for us. I mean, it's the-it is the overpowering, driving foundation of most of the struggles that we go through here on earth, in my judgement. I am a believer in the Supreme Being, in God. I believe, without any question in this force that is so much larger and more powerful than anything human beings can conceivably define.

I think the more we learn about the universe, the more we learn about black holes and the expansion of the universe and the more we learn what we don't know about: our beginnings and-not just of us, but the universe itself, the more I find that people believe in this supreme being.

I'm a Catholic and I practice but at the same time I have an open-mindedness to many other expressions of spirituality that come through different religions. I'm very respectful and am interested-I find it intriguing.

I went to Jerusalem a number of years ago on an official journey to Israel and I was absolutely fascinated by the 32 or so different branches of Catholicism that were there. That's before you even get to the conflict between Arabs and Jews.

I have spent a lot of time since then trying to understand these fundamental differences between religions in order to really better understand the politics that grow out of them. So much of the conflict on the face of this planet is rooted in religions and the belief systems they give rise to. The fundamentalism of one entity or another.

So I really wanted to try to learn more. I've spent some time reading and thinking about it and trying to study it and I've arrived at not so much a sense of the differences but a sense of the similarities in so many ways; the value system roots and the linkages between the Torah, the Koran and the Bible and the fundamental story that runs through all of this, that connects us-and really connects all of us.

And so I've also always been fascinated by the Transcendentalists and the Pantheists and others who found these great connections just in nature, in trees, the ponds, the ripples of the wind on the pond, the great feast of nature itself. I think it's all an expression that grows out of this profound respect people have for those forces that human beings struggle to define and to explain. It's all a matter of spirituality.

I find that even - even atheists and agnostics wind up with some kind of spirituality, maybe begrudgingly acknowledging it here and there, but it's there. I think it's really intriguing. For instance, thinking about China, the people and their policy-how do we respond to their view of us? And how do they arrive at that view of us and of the world and of life choices? I think we have to think about those things in the context of the spiritual to completely understand where they are coming from.

So here are a people who, you know, by and large, have a nation that has no theory of creationism. Well, that has to effect how you approach things. And until we think through how that might effect how you approach things, it's hard to figure out where you could find a meeting of the minds when approaching certain kinds of issues.

So, the exploration of all these things I find intriguing. Notwithstanding our separation between church and state, it is an essential ingredient of trying to piece together an approach to some of the great vexing questions we have internationally.

AW: Do you think that we are headed for more enlightened spirituality or are we doomed to crawl back to the caves?

JK: That's the test! That's exactly what the challenge of life is all about and some people find that. I mean, look at the Dalai Lama who I've spent some time with and who is absolutely intriguing. Extraordinary person. He is certainly telling us there is life from enlightenment-here and hereafter, but I think, whether or not we're going to be enlightened is the great test that all of us are struggling with. That's part of what makes life so challenging and so much fun.

http://www.americanwindsurfer.com/mag/back/issue5.5c.html

I read this a long, long time ago, and it was one of the first intimations of what an amazing heart and mind and soul that Kerry had. When other people saw him as a passionless suit, or an ambitious egotist, I would remember this interview, or his talks about his mother's environmentalism or reading Rachel Carson for the first time. I was absolutely convinced that Kerry was a fundamentally decent and striving person that genuinely wants to make the world a better place. I still am.



A bit goofy at times, but really a nice guy.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 10:01 PM
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1. Thanks for posting that
I really enjoyed reading it. It's excellent!
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 10:02 PM
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2. i adore the way he acknowledges
others with hands together and a bow
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Dancer Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 10:22 PM
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7. Yes!
Edited on Fri Oct-15-04 10:23 PM by Dancer
It makes me think that he acknowledges what is universal within each one of us.

The word that comes to mind is namaste..
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 10:04 PM
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3. I really like how he's quite respectful to the athiests, agnostics as well
I am Catholic like he is but I really appreciate that he acknowledges them. I don't remember hearing Clinton or Gore talk about the wide range of faiths like he does. Nice article, he's a great guy ain't he.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 10:07 PM
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4. How can anyone not love Kerry?
extra points to any poster who gets the allusion
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Paul Hood Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 10:15 PM
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5. Seinfeld's mom. n/t
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 10:42 PM
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13. We have a winner
Give the man a cigar!
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 10:17 PM
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6. John Kerry is Awesome
I would dearly love to meet him in person; he is such a strong man, and he comforts me when I need it the most. God Bless John Kerry,
our next President.
:loveya: :hug:
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 10:41 PM
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12. Then Wait Til You See Him Do A Matrix Kick!
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 10:28 PM
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8. Man, that's beautiful. Thanks for posting it! n/t
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Political_Junkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 10:34 PM
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9. Thanks for this.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 10:36 PM
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10. This is THE definitive Kerry article!
A MUST read. A good read.

Funk, you have a decent take also. Thanks for standing with John from the start.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 10:37 PM
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11. That's awesome
He'd like the Unitarian Universalist church, and there is NO doubt UUers like him! :)
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 10:43 PM
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14. yet he's Catholic at the same time
heh sort of like me, I share a lot of UU's beliefs but I am quite a Catholic too. He is like UU, tolerant of all faiths and religions and people who don't have religion. Great guy he is, really.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 10:45 PM
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15. Yes, my husband's a lot like that, too
Raised Catholic, in Catholic schools, but is very open, thoughtful, questioning, accepting.
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