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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:12 PM
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I'm seeing Republicans speak up for gay people and their families
They're trying to slam John Kerry for mentioning Mary Cheney but to do so, they have to speak positively about gay people and acknowledge their existence in American families. There's just no way they can do otherwise. Yeah, CNN is trying to keep the fires burning on this but that's what's happening between the repeated slams on Kerry and the "inappropriateness" of his mentioning Cheney.
Is that going to be too much for the fundies to handle? That remains to be seen.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:13 PM
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1. CNN is to the Right of FOX!
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gavodotcom Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 10:30 PM
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14. So far to the right of mainstream Fox they're on the RIGHT BANK! *snort*
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DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:17 PM
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2. It is suspected the Kerry and Edwards made these references
in order to get the fundies worked up about the "lesbian" daughter. Now, if the Repubs have to come on shows and seem all understanding, warm and fuzzy about gays, this sucker could backfire bad. Their real base expects them to campaign for the death of homosexuals not praise them. Don't get to close to gays, Republicans, you could get burned. HAHAHA
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:20 PM
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3. Impossible to know whether it was a planned strategy or a truly
off-the-cuff remark. If it WAS a strategy then the Republicans are reacting exactly the way you'd want them to for it to work. The only questions that remain are: will the bible-thumpers get pissed off and do the independents and moderates buy into the "inappropriateness" spin that the Republicans are trying to peddle?
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:22 PM
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4. If anyone says it was inappropriate
ask them if it was appropriate for bush* to say he "doesn't care" about finding OBL?
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okTracer Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:24 PM
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5. We need PFLAG for Kerry
If Cheney dosen't like Kerry mentioning is daughter, I'm sure there are lots of proud parents that wouldn't mind at all.

http://pflag.org/
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:41 PM
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7. Cool, It is good to see the love. It seems Cheney just used it for
sympathy to make it seem that there was an understanding and acceptance of his daughter but he has shown more of an embarrassment now. He should try to be proud of how much his daughter has helped him on his campaign and hope his actions don't embarrass her. Dick,Shame on you and Mary. You are so not brave enough to put your child's life style ahead of your political standing with the Right Wing.
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Heath.Hunnicutt Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:37 PM
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6. A lot of Republicans are just good people
Officially, their party stands for some good things but in practice that is over and a lot of them have been left behind with a party that stands for nothing good and plenty of bad.
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secular_warrior Donating Member (705 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:48 PM
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9. Correct.
On paper many of the goals of the Republicans and conservatism sound good. There are many good Republicans -- regular folks who buy into the "cover story". But in reality, the GOP is more like a klan rally and less about lower taxes, smaller gov't and family values.

The real way to judge any candidate or party is to look at their supporters. The GOP is riddled with racists, homophobes, nationalists, fundamentalists, corporatists/fascists -- a party united by hate, NOT any "conservatism". The TRUE goals of the party reflect this.
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Liberal Gramma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:55 PM
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11. Bingo
You've nailed it.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:45 PM
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8. Considering the recent attempt at amending the Constitution,
isn't this a...FLIP-FLOP???? :D
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:54 PM
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10. Absolutely
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 10:02 PM
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12. Hardball tonight was hilarious
Some fundie (sorry, don't know who) was doing the love the sinner, hate the sin routine, and when pushed to admit he thought Mary was a sinner, he tried to weasel out by saying nobody should assume she was having sexual relations. He actually tried to convince us that her relationship with the woman she lives with is purely platonic, and that's why she's not a sinner.

Fun times, watching them self-destruct.
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bush equals idiot Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 10:16 PM
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13. Cheney and the whole bunch of phony republicans
bring on the sanctity of their "outrage" when it fits their purposes. If Bush wasn't such a Jesus freak, they would be shouting it from the highest mountain tops to get gay votes.

Lets have the so victimized "victim" speak and tell us how far she was in the closet.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 11:30 PM
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19. On gays and marriage
One of the more outrageous parts of the fundiecon agenda is that they claim over and over again that they don't have a problem with gays so long as they don't get married ... and they combine this with their abstinence only education. So what you have is:

1. You can't have sex til you marry
2. By the way, you aren't allowed to marry

Gays are fine as long as they are asexual for life.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 10:36 PM
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15. CNNservative's On Air Contempt Will Be Firece Now
They don't even try to restrain their newsbabes, like Daryn Limbaugh, of their disdain for Kerry and Democrats.

Watching McAuliffe then Stewart then Franken, it was major smackdown and the network is gonna fire back. Not sure how yet, they can't whore any more than they already are, can they?
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 10:38 PM
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16. Kerry's driven his swift boat straight into the sham GOP coalition
Pro-lifers, big business tax cutters, chickenhawks and social hypocrites...
Their "big tent" is being taken down.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 10:39 PM
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17. I believe it was a calculated political risk
It remains to be seen whether it's going to work.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 11:09 PM
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18. kick
interested to get other people's take on this
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