CNN poll: Is Mary Cheney's homosexuality a fair campaign issue?

[A-Schwarzenegger]

Yes: 77%
No: 23%

EDIT: changed "legit" to "fair"

[Jade Fox]

1. Whose made it a campaign issue????

I don't think mentioning it in a debate means you made it a "campaign issue".

What a lame question.

[liberal N proud]

3. The GOP and CNN

[Cha]

14. That's stupid for ya!

A bunch of Twisted mediawhores over there at cnn.

[Dickie Flatt]

2. It's only a campaign issue

because the RNC made it one. Kerry simply mentioned that Mary is a lesbian in an attempt to show how gay and lesbian issues really do affect everyone, to show that gays and lesbians aren't freaks but that even the Vice President's daughter is a lesbian.

That's not making it a campaign issue. Whining about it is.

And, just a question for all those angry Republicans: where was this firestorm of controversy when Edwards mentioned Mary in the VP debate?

[Clinton Crusader]

4. Now it's a CAMPAIGN issue! Oh shit, I give up!

NO ONE talks about smirk going AWOL, No one talks about smirk LYING about OBL in the debate, NBO ONE talks about smirk's MANY MANY lies, no one talks about fuck all anything today except Mary Cheney! Good GOD what has this country been reduced to???? A candidates daughter is a CAMPAIGN issue?

Nova Scotia here I come! :eyes:
:kick:

[agingdem]

5. Hey...

it's over...no one cares.

[LVdem]

7. I wish I had your optimism...nt

[Bossy Monkey]

6. Tomorrow's will be "When did you stop beating your wife?"

As mentioned already (and as everybody here knows) a) it isn't a campaign issue (she was already out); therefore b) it's a meaningless question. Saying yes could mean that you support Kerry for mentioning it, or that you believe it's an issue that he mentioned it, so you oppose him. Since I can't respond to a meaningless question, I'm just going to email them to that effect.

[Bossy Monkey]

9. On the CNN campaign story page, it's worded like this:

Do you think Sen. John Kerry went too far when he mentioned VP Dick Cheney's gay daughter in Wednesday's debate?

That I can live with, since I can easily say no. On CNN's homepage, the poll is Do you think sexual preference is a choice? Ditto.

[atre]

8. What a ridiculously slanted question!

You can't design a question more biased towards the perspective Bush and his cronies are pushing. If a polling firm used that one, it would be a push poll.

Thank God those bastards didn't get the results they were expecting.

[Bossy Monkey]

11. See #9 above. No now leading with 61%

Maybe A-S is looking at Blitzer's poll; I haven't found that one yet.

[atre]

16. I'm referring to the poll Paula Zahn cited on the air.

Not balanced, but still 77% didn't buy the dope they were pushing.

[Bossy Monkey]

17. Got it. So not an online poll

Still, I have no idea what the question is supposed to mean; willing to take your word that 77% yes means that it was no problem for Kerry to mention it.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

21. Correct. Paula Zahn poll, just during her hour I believe.

It broke her little heart.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

10. The way I took it...

The 77% were saying Fuck You to CNN the only way they could
for trying to make it an issue. After hammering away for a
whole hour at Kerry for mentioning Mary, Paula Zahn read
the results of the poll as if 77% had just said they didn't
like her hair-do.

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[Clinton Crusader]

13. What the GOP has made 'campaign issues'

wind surfing
opponents daughter
having a tan or not having a tan
dem's wife responding to a gop reporter

these are SUCH critical issues for the future of this country it stops my heart beating. ANY, I repeat ANY (including my own family) person who considers themselves a citizen of this country who thinks this cute or funny or pertinent should move to Mexico.

The media purportrates this absurdity on the American people. Not the fact that the pResient lies, lies, lies, lies, like other people have breakfast, not the fact that he led us into a war with no reason, all based on lies, mistreats returning vets, slaughtering innocent Iraqis, his admin outs a CIA operative, everything is a f**king secret, the white house press corps cant get a straight answer to anything, a group of vets set up by Rove to discredit a bona fide war hero, Halliburton, pages of the first 9/11 report blacked out to protect his Saudi friends, 3 1/4 years since the WTC, NO ONE paying a price except our soldiers and Iraqi people....

UUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
I have to go lie down. Crikey!

:kick:

[KelleyKramer]

15. Poll: Is CNN completely full of shit and..

Is Wolf Blitzer really a plastic figure stolen from a Disney display, with Karl Rove running the controls from his office?

Just curious.

[JohnLocke]

20. Yes (nt).

[gordianot]

18. The real issue is not Mary Cheney.

I feel like I am somewhere in the Twilight Zone. You had a President of the United States say in front of the entire country and world that he never said "he was not concerned about Osama Bin Laden" in a Presidential Debate.

I can go on and on, Mary Cheney is not an issue.

[troubleinwinter]

19. Well, ya know, wouldn't want to be talking about JOBS or HEALTHCARE

or funny stuff like IRAQ or the ECONOMY or, ya know, 'stuff'.

[DrBB]

22. "When did you stop beating your wife?"

Jeebus Ache Effing KeeRIST. KERRY didn't make it an issue, CHENEY did. How the FUCK is anyone supposed to answer something so utterly inane?

[sharman]

23. I say the issue is

that Bush thinks Mary chose to be queer. I mean, that's how HE answered the question. Hm, she coulda gone straight, chose abomination instead--well, maybe maybe, I dunno, that's how it might have happened

[W stands4 WARMONGER]

24. Gay by Birth or by Choice?

I have usually voted Republican, though always open to other parties. This election cycle affords me the opportunity to vote strongly Democratic across the board for the first time, largely because of John Kerry's superiority over George Bush.

This final presidential debate included a question that presented a weak spot in the Democrat position that, perhaps you're unaware, is a big turn off, practically a "deal-killer" for many of the tens of millions of religious voters. It seemed good to share my thoughts on the matter with you because I trust you are open.

Question: "Is homosexuality a trait one is born with or is it a behavior one chooses?"

This is a highly loaded question which, from the perspective of many, is just another way of asking:
"Do Civil Rights Laws affording special protections to Racial minorities apply towards granting special protections to those who practice homosexuality?"

To assert that homosexuality is a birth trait (that must, therefore, be welcomed) flies in the face of predominant Christian teaching: a certain deal-breaker for 10's of millions of Christian voters.

To refuse to accomodate those who practice homosexuality is a major turn off for thousands of energetic, Democratic, homosexual activists.

Kerry could have navigated that perilous strait best by saying:
"The question of whether homosexuality is a birth trait or a chosen behavior is being contested in Religion, Philosophy and Science. But we know this for certain: that our Country was founded on the self-evident truths that 'All Men Are Created Equal,' equal in value before God, and that 'they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights,' inseparable Rights, Rights that include Life, Liberty, the Pursuit of Happiness, the Bill of Rights, and many more we are still discovering. Regardless of whether or not one is destined from birth to practice homosexuality, our Country's legal foundation provides no basis for failing to secure the God-Given Rights of any person because he or she engages in homosexual relations."

This simple statement threads the needle in a way that assures Gay persons of governmental protections of the Rights we have all received while assuaging the fears of Christians that Kerry will push a Gay agenda that mocks the Faith of Jesus Christ.

I believe the prudent course here is to limit comments about it strictly to the legal, governmental dimension - leave the philosophic, scientific, or religious dimensions to the experts in such vocations.

A contender for American public office should stick to the American legal code as his basis for saying simply:
"Whether homosexuality is a birth trait like Race & Gender,
Or a choice like Religion or Creed,
The basis of America's legal code, The Constitution,
provides no justification for failing to secure the inseparable, God-Given Rights of anyone
because he or she engages in homosexual relations."

(Try to avoid turning off millions when you pander to thousands.)

[A-Schwarzenegger]

25. Kerry had enough guts on this issue

not to fashion or believe the kind of chickenshit answer
you dredged up, which, by the way, is simply a bloviated
version of Bush's "I don't know, Bob, I just don't know."

[nonconformist]

26. Loaded question. How very typical of CNN polls. nt

[PE]

27. It was just an example!

Mary Cheney's sexuality is a non-issue. The attempt to amend the constitution is the issue.

[nonconformist]

28. New CNN Poll: Does John Kerry Eat Babies? nt