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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:26 PM
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Poll question: Is Nader a Stalinist?
After arguing with a few of his supporters, I've come to the conclusion that yes, he is.

These people are totally brainwashed. They do nothing but recite the same old bullshit he spews about corporate duoplies and all that nonsense. I found one of his press releases interesting, where he based a former ally of his who was fighting to remove him from the ballot and summed him up by saying "once a good guy, how he's a bad guy." A little Big Brother-ish, eh?

He turned on Michael Moore and the Green Party, and claimed they were totally irrelevant after they refused to give him everything he wanted. He cares about no one besides himself, and is worshiped by his few supporters in a cult of personality. Move over LaRouche, Nader has the country's biggest political cult.

Add this to his massive ego, and I can easily say Nader turning into a totalitarian if he somehow took office. Thank God he never will.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:31 PM
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1. His electoral strategy is a lot like Stalin/Comintern's 'social fascism'
Edited on Thu Oct-14-04 11:35 PM by jpgray
Take out the bourgeois moderates, give the right-wing nutjobs the reins, and then sweep in as they fuck everything up. What this strategy ignores is that right-wing nutjobs are brilliant at consolidating and maintaining power even while they are incompetent at everything else.

But from what I know of his publicly stated politics they don't really resemble Stalin's.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:38 PM
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3. Bingo!
Stalin actually encouraged German communists not to break with their ideology in 1933 and form a coalition with the rest of the left against Hitler, and we all know how that ended up.

But hey, they eventually got a German communist state, didn't they?
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Zero Division Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:40 PM
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4. Indeed: a left-wing political version of Christian Fundamentalists....
attempting to bring on the apocalypse because they see that few will ever adhere purely enough to every single one of their beliefs.

The 2004 Nader supporters are a markedly different set of leftists from many of the 2000 Nader supporters (of which I was regrettably one).
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theorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:34 PM
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2. Did you know he's for "tort reform"?
But unlike bush*, he wants to make it easier for people to sue corporations. This was at least true when he cowrote Power Lawyers.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:40 PM
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5. If he's elected, he might veto every single bill that reaches his desk.
He'd find at least one or two things he doesn't like, and as a result, every bill would get vetoed and have to get voted on twice to override it.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:43 PM
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6. well now you've gone and pissed off patti smith!
she's gonna throw down her headphones and get all passive aggresive on ya!

:evilgrin:
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:49 PM
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7. Come on now, try and understand...
The way I feel under Bush* command!
Nader lost, though he was my man,
He can't help us now, can't help us now, can't help us nooooooooow!

Because the world, belongs to BushCo
Because the world, belongs to them!
Because the world, belongs to BushCo
Because the world, belongs to them!
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:56 PM
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8. No, he's an Egotist. And a Kerry wannabe.
Kerry embodies everything that Ralph couldn't make himself be.

Ralph would do better lobbying congress. Unfortunately, his own, self-inflicted sense of insignificance had turned himself into more of a problem than a solution.
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