ZINGERS for Wednesday night - Post 'em here!

[Lakerstan]

OK, folks. Let's see what we can do.

Here's mine:

"Mr. President, in last week's debate you said that you made no mistakes in going to Iraq. You should know that the first step in recovery is admitting that you have a problem."

Go get 'em!

:bounce:

[skylarmae]

1. This should be sent to the Kerry campaign. You hit the nail

right on the head.

[WI_DEM]

2. that's a good zinger, but unfortunately it would backfire on Kerry

by recalling W's alcoholic past it would cause the media, which really does influence popular opinion, to say Kerry hit below the belt.

[rocktivity]

3. "You said we went into Iraq for WMDs

then you said we went in because Hussien was THINKING about getting WMDs. Isn't THAT a flip-flop?"

:headbang:
rocknation

[zinsky]

4. Rip Him A New for His "Vision" of the Future!

Here is what I would say, if I were Kerry:

"WAR, DEBT, RECESSION AND POLLUTION. THAT IS GEORGE W. BUSH'S VISION FOR THE FUTURE - AND WHAT A HIDEOUS VISION IT IS....."

[zinsky]

5. Or How About This --

"GEORGE, YOU HAVE TRIED TO TURN THE U.S. TREASURY INTO AN ATM FOR THE WEALTHY - DO YOU REALLY THINK YOUR TAX CUTS ARE 'FREE MONEY'"????

[gumby]

6. Bush is programmed for this one:

It's the people's money, not the government's money.

You think the government knows how to spend people's money better than they do. I trust the people over the government every time.

[Sparkly]

8. Then Kerry should answer

it's the people's debt. He should explain it in terms of household budgets -- when you take a cash advance on your Visa, it's "your money," but it's also your bill. The country has borrowed itself into a situation where foreign governments own too large a share, and where tax dollars are being wasted in interest on that debt alone.

[Zynx]

13. Bush has increased the deficit more(as a % of GDP even) than the New Deal

Put that in your pipe and smoke it. We have gone from a 2.5% of GDP surplus to a 4.5% of GDP deficit, a swing of 7%, large than the swing of the New Deal.

[TransitJohn]

27. "Mr. pResident,

why do you consider the United States Treasury the BFEE's personal bank account?"

[MallRat]

7. Mr. President, you've had 6 months to come up with even 1 mistake.

You were asked in April to name one mistake you've made during your Presidency, and you couldn't come up with an answer. Last week, you were asked again, and you still couldn't come up with an answer.

HOW MUCH LONGER DO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE TO WAIT FOR YOU TO ADMIT THAT YOU'VE DONE SOMETHING... ANYTHING... WRONG?

-MR

[elehhhhna]

9. So you don't regret ignoring the August '01 PDB? Or Saying...

"Bring 'em on " about 900 dead servicemen ago?

There's 2 of the three right there.

[Rob in B_more]

10. I bush says again,

"now he is a fiscal consevative" Kerry should respond "well someone has to be one and it sure isn't you or the Republican Senate or Congress, you guys are spending like drunken sailors."

And when he says Kerry will raise everyones taxes because he has proposed 2.2 trillion spending but only pays for 600 billion with his over 200,000 dollar tax increase, point out Bush proposed 3 trillion with more tax cuts. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A18876-2004Sep13.html

[daydreamer]

23. Kerry's rebuttal on this should go like

Mr President, all of sudden you sound more like a liberal and pre-election Santa Claus all in one, your program is more liberal than the real one you referring to. Think this will put bush dummy out of words. You cannot always feed his the answer he expected, then he would know how to answer. Have to come up with things out his little box.

[Carolinian]

11. Bush & Chaney were caught by surprise on 9/11 but Edwards

published an article 1 month earlier warning of the possiblity of a terror attack. That should be fodder for a jab at the administration.

[Psst_Im_Not_Here]

12. Here's mine:

George Bush...Al Qaida recruiter of the year!

[daydreamer]

25. not a safe one

Kerry already 2 out of 2. He just need some good metaphors and folk wisdom to connect with people even better.

[BUSHOUT]

14. Have you figured out since our last debate that you are one of the 900,000

small businesses you keep quoting?

[daydreamer]

28. Should be a different tune

Always respect your opponent. No straightforward put downs. I learned "put down" from my 8th grade. Put downs are not allowed at school.

[Lakerstan]

15. kick for the night crowd n/t

[AirAmFan]

16. *:'I know who the enemy is!' JK:'Then why'd you invade the wrong country?'

[GreenPoet64]

18. Flip Flopper? I may change my mind as the facts change, but my moods

don't swing like a pendulum. :toast:

[AirAmFan]

17. *:'Our economy is strong and getting stronger' JK:'There you go again...

The truth is, your fiscal mismanagement and tax cuts for the rich have WEAKENED our economy, and it can't recover until the mess you've made of it has been cleaned up!'

[msongs]

19. Mr. Bush, tell the american people why you failed to

show up for your physical when you were in the national guard.

Msongs
Riverside CA

[RevCheesehead]

20. When * says "you can run, but you can't hide..."

Kerry can answer (with a smile), "I wish you felt that way about Osama bin Laden."
;-)

[sandnsea]

24. "You said that about Osama bin Laden"

"You didn't catch him either." ;)

[daydreamer]

33. You guys are out of coutrol

[bunkerbuster1]

38. And the headline will read

"Kerry likens himself to Osama bin Laden."

next.

[grannylib]

21. *s flip-flops on the war: WMDs, WMD program-related activities, then

Saddam is a madman, then it's nation-building (which he said we would not do) then it was spreading freedom and democracy, and now it's back to spiining the WMD thing and the non-existant Iraq/al Qaeda connection. Also: From his speech aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln (the infamous prancing-in-a-flight-suit-war-ZERO-commander-in-thief)

"This nation thanks all the members of our coalition who joined in a noble cause. We thank the Armed Forces of the United Kingdom, Australia, and Poland, who shared in the hardships of war."
He calls this later "a broad coalition."
Yes, let's not forget Poland!

"Today, we have the greater power to free a nation by breaking a dangerous and aggressive regime. With new tactics and precision weapons, we can achieve military objectives without directing violence against civilians. No device of man can remove the tragedy from war; yet it is a great moral advance when the guilty have far more to fear from war than the innocent."
Oh really?? Anybody see the images from foreign news broadcasts (since our 'Lib'rul Media here in 'Murka is too chickeshit to show them) of the Iraqi civilians maimed and killed? Of the children born with horrendous birth defects due to the depleted uranium used in cluster bombs?

"The liberation of Iraq is a crucial advance in the campaign against terror. We've removed an ally of al Qaeda, and cut off a source of terrorist funding. And this much is certain: No terrorist network will gain weapons of mass destruction from the Iraqi regime, because the regime is no more. (Applause.)
In these 19 months that changed the world, our actions have been focused and deliberate and proportionate to the offense. We have not forgotten the victims of September the 11th - the last phone calls, the cold murder of children, the searches in the rubble. With those attacks, the terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States. And war is what they got."
But no, nobody in this administration tried to make a connection between Iraq and al Qaeda, how could the Lib'rul 'Murkin Media tell such whoppin' lies????

"Any person, organization, or government that supports, protects, or harbors terrorists is complicit in the murder of the innocent, and equally guilty of terrorist crimes."
Gee, does that include Israel?

"The United States upholds these principles of security and freedom in many ways - with all the tools of diplomacy, law enforcement, intelligence, and finance. We're working with a broad coalition of nations that understand the threat and our shared responsibility to meet it. The use of force has been - and remains - our last resort."
Golly, where to start... 'diplomacy...' 'broad coalition...' 'last resort...' and hmmm....'law enforcement...' thought that was what he was just bashing Kerry about, but gee, I must be mistaken. How does he lie to us? Let us count the ways; we'll be here until the next millenium.

"Other nations in history have fought in foreign lands and remained to occupy and exploit. Americans, following a battle, want nothing more than to return home. And that is your direction tonight."
So what are we still doing there, if not occupying and exploiting? OH yeah, NATION-BUILDING...something Candidate Bush said in 2000 that we would not do. FLIP-FLOP! FLIP-FLOP! (Simply one among hundreds.)


C'mon, John! JUMP ON THIS LITTLE CHICKENHAWK SACK OF SHIT, CALL HIM ON HIS LIES AND MISTAKES AND POSITION CHANGES! LET'S PUT THIS THING IN THE BAG!

[Seabiscuit]

34. Seven * lies during the debate Kerry must be masterfully prepared for...

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/12/opinion/12krugman.html?oref=login&n=Top%2fOpinion%2fEditorials%20and%20Op%2dEd%2fOp%2dEd%2fColumnists%2fPaul%20Krugman

[lawladyprof]

22. When * brings up Kerry's missing votes in the Senate

Kerry should smile sweetly and say something to the effect of not getting as much rest when you have to take your vacation days one at a time. Or make some crack about Crawford.

[KharmaTrain]

26. Godfather Reference...

Kerry looks at Bunnypants and asks:

"Didn't you play Sonny in the Godfather?"

Maybe someone can rewrite this movie to fit the Bush family...Poppy, Sonny/Dubya, Michael/Jebbie, Neil/Fredo and Babs Bush as the horses' head.

:bounce:

[ciaobox]

29. The end-all-be-all...

"After the last two debates, Mr. Bush spent his time on the campaign trail responding to all the debate questions -- just a few days too late. Perhaps for THIS debate, Mr. Bush might like to answer the questions on the spot."

If JK felt like it, pause and expand: "I might even be pursuaded to give him 5-10 minutes to run back and ask Carl Rove the answers."

[ciaobox]

30. Kerry's gotta tie in the vacation time

"Mr. Bush is asking Americans for four more years. But during the last four years, at times of war, sacrifice and recession, he spent 40% of his time on vacation and during 2002 and 2004, when he wasn't on vacation, he was either campaigning for himself and his party or meeting with corporate lobbyists to determine his policies. So luckily, Americans have a choice -- they can choose the vacation President -- or a President they know will be working for them every single day."

[daydreamer]

37. I like it

This might put him on tilt a little bit.

[daydreamer]

31. I got another one

We need to think outside of Bush's little box. Come up with things unexpected.

Mr President you just beat Liberal like me by one trillion dolors. Since when, Mr president you became more liberal than the one you excused of? Just because you don't have to run for a third term, you still should keep you promise in proportion to our national debt.:shrug:

[eridani]

32. References to Daddy Bush get him unglued--do it again!

Also the 1991 Cheney who didn't think we should try to take over Iraq.

[ciaobox]

35. FUZZY LABELS - WHO'S A LIBERAL NOW?

Kerry should bat away the "most liberal voting record in the senate" with something like, "did you use the same formula to calculate my record as you did the cost of the Iraq war?" -- then hit it back at him with, "as I said in the last debate, I don't believe in labels - however, this President is an archconservative on issues where I am liberal since he is against civil rights; against holding corporations accountable and for putting machine guns on the street; and he is ultraliberal on issues where I am conservative: such as balancing the budget; not making America like the world's police; protecting jobs in America. A simpler way of saying this is that Bush is just plain wrong on almost all the issues."

If Kerry said that, steam would shoot out of Bush's earpieces like yosemite fucking sam!

[AngryLizard]

36. "My vice president is a honey. And yours...is not."

Sorry,I'm watching Edwards on Leno right now, and I got distracted.


I'm so sad, because I have to tivo the debates. Spanish class. Damn professionally necessary bilingual education!

[CityHall]

39. He's run up the largest deficits since his father was President

or

The President's father broke his pledge not to raise taxes on the middle class. I won't break mine.