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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:23 AM
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More "WTF" Moments from the Chimp last night
And the reason I'm worried is because there's a vicious enemy that has an ideology of hate. And the way to defeat them long-term, by the way, is to spread freedom. Liberty can change habits. And that's what's happening in Afghanistan and Iraq.

"Habits?" People just get into the "habit" of suicide car bombs?

...
Thirdly, spread what's called health savings accounts. It's good for small businesses, good for owners. You own your own account. You can save tax-free. You get a catastrophic plan to help you on it.

(He's got one catastrophic plan after another.)

This is different from saying, “OK, let me incent you to go on the government.”

...

First, the National Journal named Senator Kennedy the most liberal senator of all. And that's saying something in that bunch.

This must be why he says "my opponent" so often -- it's too much for him to remember his opponent's name.

.....

He's been in the United States Senate 20 years. Show me one accomplishment toward Medicare that he accomplished.

I've been in Washington, D.C., three and a half years and led the Congress to reform Medicare so our seniors have got a modern health care system. That's what leadership is all about.


That's the difference between being a Senator and being the President, but I guess he thinks it's all the same -- not to mention the fact that he's wrong about Kerry's record and wrong about his own "reform."

Other WTF moments?
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:27 AM
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1. One more
When Kerry said, "He didn't have weapons of mass destruction, Mr. President." The Chimp LAUGHED. That's funny?!?

:wtf:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:31 AM
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2. Hilarious.
Remember the touching film of Bush looking under his desk for Saddam Husseins WMDs?

That's some of the dumbest advice Rove has given him, the "we got suckered, now let's laugh it off" gambit. It's not playing well in Peoria, where they're seeing the aftermath of sending human beings into a war based on lies.
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Sperk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:31 AM
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3. Don't have direct quote but Bush said he was "disappointed"
that Iraq didn't have WMD!
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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:32 AM
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4. Here is my favorite...
"The truth of that matter is, if you listen carefully, Saddam would still be in power if he were the president of the United States, And the world would be a lot better off."
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:34 AM
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6. haHA!! I missed that one
Thanks!
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:33 AM
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20. Bush was talking about Kerry's stance on that one.
Careful using that out of context.
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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:42 AM
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28. I don't see how it can be interpreted that way.
It didn't come across that way when he said it live and I don't read it that way from the transcript either. What made it particularly striking to me was that it was right at the end of one of his rebuttals so the "world would be a much better place" line was left dangling as his final impression. I guess you're saying he meant "Kerry thinks the world would be a much better place with Saddam Hussein sill in power"?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:35 AM
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23. Oh no he didn't ........really?
:wow: I missed that one. LOL
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:33 AM
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5. the biggest WTF moment for me
is that the little bushturd is participating in the debate instead of having resigned in disgrace over his WMD lies.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:37 AM
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7. One more -- drugs from a third world
And what my worry is is that, you know, it looks like it's from Canada, and it might be from a third world.
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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:39 AM
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8. Well, he should know a lot about drugs from the 3rd world huh? :) nt
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shadu Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:43 AM
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10. that was a good one
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:39 AM
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24. That one floored me
He said something to the effect of "we have to chack to make sure the drugs are safe before they come into the U.S." And that takes four years? Plus, people are already going into Canada to get them; they wouldn't if they weren't "safe." What a dumb@ss. :eyes:
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:03 PM
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32. drugs are safe before they come into the country
the drugs we get here come from the same place, same drug company and the same FOREIGN manufacturing plants as the drugs that Canada gets

they are the same drugs -- or is smirk-boy insinuating that the drug companies make different versions -- safe drugs and unsafe drugs?

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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:41 AM
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27. maybe Bush inc. is selling opium crops through Canada...
someone in this administration must be
making money from those crops.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:41 AM
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9. Timothy McVeigh didn't live in a free country?
No...I guess he didn't. Neither do we. Any more.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:48 AM
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11. Thank Goodness For ReplayTV... We All Got A Good Belly Laugh
out of the "Senator Kennedy" fuckup! We had to pause it just to regain our composure... then we backed up 7 seconds and listened to it again (just to make sure)

What an idiot.

-- Allen
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MJP Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:51 AM
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12. Fly planes into buildings?
I don't remember the quote, but, I swear at the very beginning of the debate there was a question asked about Iraq, and in his answer the chimp said something about flying planes into buildings??!

I wasn't even paying attention but I knew a question was asked about Iraq and then out of the corner of my ear I know I heard something about flying planes into buildings?

WTF is an understatement here.

Someone please tell me what he said.
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MJP Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:04 AM
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13. Answer to my own question..
Here's what he said:

"And I saw a unique threat in Saddam Hussein, as did my opponent, because we thought he had weapons of mass destruction.

And the unique threat was that he could give weapons of mass destruction to an organization like Al Qaida, and the harm they inflicted on us with airplanes would be multiplied greatly by weapons of mass destruction. And that was the serious, serious threat.

So I tried diplomacy, went to the United Nations. But as we learned in the same report I quoted, Saddam Hussein was gaming the oil-for-food program to get rid of sanctions. He was trying to get rid of sanctions for a reason: He wanted to restart his weapons programs."

Not too much of a "WTF" but these are the type of statements that they make to try and "link" Saddam to Al Qaida and 9/11. These are the little seeds that they plant into the subconscience of the dumb majority of the population.

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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:09 AM
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14. Precisely! n/t
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:21 AM
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15. At the beginning when he was SCREAMING at the audience
I looked at my wife and just shook my head-W you are supposed to be convincing them not scolding them.
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BUSHOUT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:27 AM
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16. Exactly my thought too. Every line ended in a whiney high-octave shift.
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:27 AM
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17. The winks were a major WTF for me!
I was absolutely nauseated that he winked at someone in the audience twice. I found that incredibly inappropriate!! I wish the press would pick up on it.

It was also rather amazing that after all the flak he got for being unable to think of any mistake at that press conference, he didn't come up with one again last night and just rambled.


Also the mention of Dred Scott. WTF was that about? He won't appoint a judge who believes in owning slaves?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:30 AM
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19. The first SC nominee of the 21st century will NOT be pro-slavery
REPEAT:will NOT be pro-slavery :eyes:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:29 AM
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18. I'll add the Hannity-7 1/2 Billion in intelligence cuts
I couldn't believe that he would parrot that RW radio line (keep the base tight no doubt) but that numbers is the result of..........FUZZY MATH

Kerry proposed withholding $1.5 Billion OVER 5 years not FOR 5 years

1,500,000,000 DIVIDED by 5 = $300,000,000 a year (1% of the TOTAL CIA budget)

from the National Reconnaisance Office (spy satellite contractor and military contractor slush fund) who had hoarded $1 Billion over the years and were planning to use it to build an office building for the defense lobbyists.

The motion failed in committee but Arlen Specter (R-Pa) put it up for a voice vote the same day and it passed 96-3.

Hannity has been trumpeting this for a year-he started with a $3Billion figure (WRONG) bumped it up to $4B for a while eased it up to $5B for a few weeks got it to $6B for two weeks and then in one week moved it up to $7B and then $7.5B (1.5 X 5) so that the "Hannitized" hopefully wouldn't notice the sudden change. Trust me I heard this on the way home everyday for several months.
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DemsUnited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:34 AM
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21. Nope, I never made any mistakes
except for appointing some wrong people. Any guesses who he's talking about? Powell? Bremer? Rumsfield?

Inquiring minds want to know...
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:41 AM
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26. Yes, and why has Bush left those people in power?
The only significant figure to "resign" is George Tenet, and he was not a Bush appointee.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:09 PM
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33. Christy Todd Whitman and Paul O'Neill come to mind
:shrug:
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priller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:35 AM
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22. The Dred Scott thing
It was really odd. Bush was obviously unprepared for the question about judges, but it struck me as very strange that the only case he could dredge up on the spot was the Dred Scott case about slavery.

Kerry kicked his ass with his answer, btw.

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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:46 AM
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30. Oh Yeah! That ranks as the biggest WTF to me!
He brought up the case but of course couldn't remember the details.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:39 AM
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25. Same as yours with a different reaction
<And the reason I'm worried is because there's a vicious enemy that has an ideology of hate. And the way to defeat them long-term, by the way, is to spread freedom. Liberty can change habits. And that's what's happening in Afghanistan and Iraq.>

He wants to spread freedom everywhere else in the world and crack down on it here at home. Where is the logic in that?

My favorite :wtf: moment, though?

"You could say I'm a good steward of the land."

You could say it, sure, but it wouldn't be true....

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:45 AM
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29. The man is dumber than a bag of hammers.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:59 AM
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31. The string of memorized talking points about the environment
Bush quickly sounded them off, one after another, as though he were reading a list of ingredients from a cook book. I think he mentioned something about adding 3 million of some vague unnamed thing to the wetlands. It was obvious that Bush had no interest in or knowledge of the subject matter and was just trying to regurgitate a response and get through this debate issue as quickly as possible.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:31 PM
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34. "I guess you could say I'm a good steward of the land"
My entire family cracked up at that one.
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:39 PM
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35. After the debate
The way he so studiously avoided the smug blonde who asked the abortion question.
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