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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:16 PM
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NYTimes picks up bulging jacket story....
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:20 PM
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1. Wow! from Salon to the New York Times
in only six days. The right gets their wackiness from Drudge to the Washington Post in only one.

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Tamyrlin79 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:04 AM
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16. We ARE getting better at this... :)
Edited on Sat Oct-09-04 12:08 AM by Tamyrlin79
and if you think about it, Salon DID just publish this a day ago, right? From blog to salon, five days, from salon to NYT, one day. If I remember correctly, anyway... I'd say that Salon-->NYT is analogous to Drudge-->WaPo, despite the fact that Salon is way more credible than its counterpart.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:21 PM
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2. Ha!
They didn t have an answer.

And that was no rumple!
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Tamyrlin79 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:32 PM
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6. It was a very strangely shaped "rumple" indeed...
One that rumpled just like a radio transmitter and wire might...

The Milli Vanilli Presidency. Milli Vanilli had their awards taken away, so Bush should definitely have his presidency revoked if that is the standard.

Now that this story has been "validated" by publication in the Times, there is no reason why the Kerry campaign or even surrogates shouldn't seize on it. Put the president on the defense right when he doesn't need to be. He'd certainly much rather be talking about his rec... erm... uh... attacking John Kerry than dealing with questions about whether he was wired for a debate. I mean, if it were proved true, he would have been caught cheating. It certainly adds to a certain unfavorable perception of the pResident.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 04:27 AM
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20. Look at the second pic
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codegreen Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:25 PM
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3. wish the story would mention the apparant wire bulge going towards ear
it is so freaking obvious. the little wire part of the bulge going up gives it all away.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:26 PM
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4. Campaign and White House officials said the bulge was definitely not a
receiver. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. I believe that explaination. :eyes: Liars. I believe nothing they say.

They were caught and now I would like to see an explaination other than, no it definately wasn't a receiver. HELLO!!! Then WHAT the hell was it?
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delete_bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:27 PM
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5. WH denials mean nothing except that all is not right.
"There was nothing under his suit jacket," said Nicolle Devenish, the Bush campaign's communications director.

"It was most likely a rumpling of that portion of his suit jacket, or a wrinkle in the fabric."
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Bush wears extremely expensive (Oxxford) suits, costing somewhere in the $2,000 to $14,000 range.

If I spent this much money on a suit that did this I'd be pissed.
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:34 PM
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7. "there ain't nothing under his haircut, either."
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dave502d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:34 PM
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8. What ever if was,It must have been broke.
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:39 PM
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12. Maybe that weird look on his face came from trying to listen to Kerry
while he was hearing voices at the same time?
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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 04:49 AM
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26. maybe what he thinks is God talking to him is actually that earpiece
that would be believable
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:56 AM
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32. ROFLMAO! (BTW, love the puppies!) nt
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helnwhls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:35 PM
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9. Are you Roving me?
I think " roving" or "pulling an rove" would be a great way to describe someone lying or pulling a dirty trick for their own benefit. I have used it a couple of times I have said "You're Roving me" instead of "you're shitting me". People got it. Below are some examples.

A co-worker backstabbing coworkers = trying to Rove his way into a better job

Cheating on a test = "Roving to the top of the class"

Find out your sibling crashed the car and managed to blame you = Bro, you completely roved me!!

I hope you get the idea. I think it could be up there with santorum.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:13 AM
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29. Hi helnwhls!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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helnwhls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:13 PM
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37. Good to be here
:party:
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SalParadise Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:36 PM
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10. I'd doubted the whole receiver theory before tonight
But, of course, tonight it wasn't there.

Really suspicious that it was there in the first debate & missing in the second - I'd originally thought it was a Kevlar vest buckle - but it would've been there tonight if it were.

Someone posted a story about a tooth implant receiver - the gimp was really working his jaw this evening - didn't do that in the last debate.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think there's something to all of this.
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AirAmFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:45 PM
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14. Kerry wouldn't have been able to turn off a tooth transmitter with a slap
on the back, the way some say he might have as he greeted Stupid last Thursday night. A swap-out from a between-the-shoulder-blades setup to a dental implant in the intervening week would explain Dubya's relatively better performance this week, too.

I really DON'T believe all this "Emperor's Club" inspired paranoia, though it's fun to play along as if I did!
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:54 PM
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15. Tonight he had to do too much
roaming around and his handlers knew he couldn't wear the receiver on his back. They hid it somewhere else.
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budkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:38 PM
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11. Kick ass!
The more negative Bush press the better!
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:43 PM
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13. Caught , now they are bumbling
for a good excuse. This is only going to get bigger...awesome!
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 04:13 AM
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17. kick
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 04:17 AM
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18. On Countdown, Tucker Askew said it was Bush's spine
Said it in a bragging way, like his boy's got a lot of spine.

Well if that's part of a spine, that man's got some kinda horrible bone disease. Just one more infirmity to add to a long long list.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 04:26 AM
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19. Well I wrote a letter to the editor in the NYTimes.
Edited on Sat Oct-09-04 04:55 AM by dorktv
To The Editor:


I was surprised to find that there was such a strange bulge with President Bush's suit with the first debate (The Mystery of the Bulge in the Jacket by Elizabeth Bumiller, Oct. 8th). Perhaps he needs a new tailor?

I am sure he would not have any electronic devices under his suit as he would not have broken the rules of the debate. It is not like we cannot trust our President to be honest and fair, after all, he tells us he is all the time.

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Too snarky? *edited*
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 04:29 AM
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21. Dowager's hump.
If he didn't wear a bullet proof vest last night, he has developed dowager's hump.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 04:33 AM
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22. They look like boxes?
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 04:38 AM
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23. Didn't you notice how his head is out of line with
the back of his suit? Of course, dowager's hump is usually associated with women...
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 04:39 AM
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24. I noticed a line under his jacket tonight
It is going up his left shoulder. I thought it was a wire.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 04:42 AM
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25. I saw that too but then I thought naw, that could not be.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 06:31 AM
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27. After last night, it's pretty clear
The man speaking into the earpiece is Zell Miller.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:00 PM
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34. Bwahahahahahaaaaaaaaa !!!! Good one !!!
:yourock:


:hippie:
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 06:38 AM
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28. there is something to this. the white house isn't repeatedly lying for no
reason. this has legs.

first the white house says pics are doctored. then they say there's nothign there. then they say it's a wrinkle.

wtf? they are lying big time, that means it's something.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:20 AM
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31. "There Is NOTHING THERE! You See NOTHING! You Are Wrong!!"
"There is NO Lump!! Ok, there's a lump, but it's a fold in the fabric!"

:eyes:

This is crazy...There is obviously something there that is NOT a fold in the fabric. You are absolutely right, their crazy denials means there is something there that they don't want the public to know about.
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:17 AM
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30. He keeps pausing right before he speaks
A sure sign of someone reading him his lines.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:57 AM
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33. A good friend of mine thinks that he has a cochlear implant. And
she is not one given to flights of fancy.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:02 PM
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35. It sounded like HE was reading lines
Edited on Sat Oct-09-04 12:05 PM by hippiechick
... or repeating from memorization like a 5th grader giving a book report in front of the class.

A feed would do that, I think.


ON EDIT: OMG !!! That would explain his 'yelling' too ~ ever notice how people wearing headphones tend to yell at people around them, because they adjust their own personal volume to the volume they hear in their heads ? If the feed was too loud, it would have caused HIM to raise his voice as well !!!!



:hippie:
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:08 PM
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36. There is definitely something there.
And it ain't no wrinkle.

And the WH already denied he was wearing a flak jacket.

So what was it?

All I know, is whatever it was, IT DIDN'T WORK! Ha!

I say let the numbnuts have a frickin set of headphones on for all I care. It doesn't do him any good.
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