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no_to_war_economy Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:20 AM
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it really was an airplane
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:23 AM
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1. Well, that solves it, doesn't it?
The file name "doctored.gif" kinda gives it away... ;)
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:28 AM
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4. The name that some yahoo gives to a clip gives nothing "away"
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:30 AM
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6. So, you think it's real?
:shrug:
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:26 AM
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2. It's Iteresting In That It Shows What An Airliner Would look Like
This was posted a few days ago (just before the Pentagon released their tape recently) and got pulled in a minute.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:26 AM
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3. Did anybody measure the hole and compare to wingspan?
:shrug:
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:28 AM
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5. Yeah, they did
The hole was smaller than the diameter of the fuselage!
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:46 AM
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12. Dat's what I thought.
It was a rather small hole from the pictures.

That skid in the PA field was pretty small too, wasn't it? Am thinking 93 came down in smaller pieces than a jet just going into the ground whole.
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vincent_vega_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 12:46 PM
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33. The fuselage hole is measurable too
But only in the PRE collapse photos. If you look carefully you can see the square outline...square because of the constrution of the outer facade. It is about 15' x 15', ample to fit a fuelage that is 12' in diameter.
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vincent_vega_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 12:43 PM
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32. Yup
Fits perfectly if you condsider that about 5' to 10' of each wing tip broke off and shattered against the facade. The rest made a pretty significant hole that is perfectly visible in the pics after the smoke clears.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:31 AM
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7. wow, it transmuted into an american airlines plane.
:rolleyes:
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:33 AM
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8. Thanks for posting this
I was called an idiot yesterday - ( WAKE UP, IDIOT )
by some angry DUer on another thread
because I said there was no plane.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:49 AM
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14. check out the image name
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 08:30 PM
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42. I did check it
And thats why I said thanks for posting

Cause if a plane did hit the Pentagon, which it did not,
it would look like this doctored pic the OP posted.
not
like the crap video the gov't. released and expect us to believe
there was a plane in it.

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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:34 AM
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9. That just looks like a missle with wings and a tail to me.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:35 AM
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10. That's one big mothafuckin plane!
I'll bet there was lots of room for snakes on it
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:40 AM
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:49 AM
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15. oops
Edited on Fri May-19-06 09:50 AM by DS1
wrong spot
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:47 AM
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13. Wow - and it DIDN'T LEAVE A SCRATCH ON THE LAWN...
good thing these smart airliner engineers learned how to refute physics.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:49 AM
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16. Luckily for all of us, it happened on Groundskeeper Willie's watch
Edited on Fri May-19-06 09:50 AM by DS1
He got it patched up pretty quick, with nary a complaint when his tractor caught on fire.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:54 AM
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18. LOL...took me a second to get it ...Simpsons..duah
If I would have seen this and from the other 84 cameras at the pentagon
I wouldn't still have problems with the official version
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 01:54 PM
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40. Groundskeeper Willie's watch...
...now that's funny.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:05 AM
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23. and that large piece of debris going up in the explosion
disintegrated into dust before it hit the ground
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vincent_vega_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 01:14 PM
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39. What you don't under stand that it is not a video camera
It takes still images every half second or so.
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vincent_vega_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 12:47 PM
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34. Are you kidding?
The lawn was toast in pics ive seen.
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jmb597 Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 02:10 AM
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43. you call this toast?


Also, check out all of the cameras...

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:54 AM
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17. OK...here's what really happened. Can you handle the truth?
All the passengers on the plane were killed. Except they were not on that plane. They were on the plane that went down in PA. Flight 77 is a fictitious number so as to prevent the CIA and intelligence from telling the people that the Pentagon was hit by a missile. They would have been too embarrassed. But, how did they fire the missile, you might ask? Beats the hell out of me? :)
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:01 AM
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20. No, HERE'S what really happenned
There were no terrorist actions on 9/11. All the people that were on the planes were secretly removed while the planes were flying and the planes were remotely piloted to their targets, while the people were traded to space aliens who used them to set up a breeding program to farm their blood. The Bush administration traded the people for the technology to rig the voting system.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:03 AM
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21. Now that's really tinfoil hat !
:)
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:04 AM
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22. That's not quite accurate
The people were traded for a year's supply of Dairy Queen Blizzards. Bush thought he could use them when that Globally Warmering thing happens.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:58 AM
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19. An airplane strikes a building and completely disintegrates but,
BUT yet the bodies of the passengers are identified with the exception of a few.

How amazing is that?
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:19 AM
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26. Isn't that AMAZING???
I said to my self... Wow, that is true science!
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 11:29 AM
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29. Crazy as it sounds...
The people are less brittle and would have made larger pieces/piles of smush. The aluminum skin of the plane, OTOH, is much more brittle than people and would have turned into confetti upon impact. The engines then, which have titanium parts, and other potentially harder parts of the craft made of steel and such, would be what made the big gaping hole.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 11:40 AM
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31. The thing that confuses me is that what apparently made the single hole...
...was the nose of the airplane. The two ten-tonne titanium engines don't seem to have caused any holes at all nor have I seen any pictures of what would be their twisted, hulking forms from the Pentagon, anywhere.

That's unexpected.

PB
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vincent_vega_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 12:58 PM
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36. Engines.
While very heavy, are quite touchy when they undergo great stresses...like hiting a wall at 350 mph. Full of fuel/air mixture and spining blades (only titanium in them, rest is steel and aluminum), tend to come apart violently.

Penetrate they did, one stopped impacted an I-beam, other went a bit further before dissasembiling itself.

The hole was made by the robust steel nose gear. Small and dense enough to maintain momentum..and mostlikley missed structrl supports.
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 04:05 PM
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41. That is unexpected. I would think they would have done the damage.
There are so many weird things about 9/11, you start to wade in and find you're suddenly drowning.

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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 05:22 AM
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44. "the people are less brittle"
are you saying our skeletons are stronger than the fuselage of a 757? wow. so i've broken 5 extremely strong bones (good DEXA scan) simply by twisting an ankle, falling while playing tennis, and falling from a rock in the rockies? guess my 139 pounds on a 5'9" frame must exert some pretty powerful force when i fall..... :eyes: and we all know how well human skin holds up when subjected to fire.
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vincent_vega_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 12:53 PM
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35. the plane disintergrated,
(but not "completely" nor did it "vaporize") into thousands of parts mostly scraps of wing and fuselage aluminimum, that were spread all over the lawn at the base of the Pentagon wall. The skin came off.

Heavy Stuff? All carried into the building via that magical force called momentum, including the wings that contained the fuel tanks (mass = many much momentum).
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:06 AM
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24. It would have to be 'friendly' to bypass Pentagon's defense system
think about it? A civilian airliner would be considered 'not friendly'
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vincent_vega_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 12:59 PM
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37. Defense Expert Obviously
Good post. Any more expert military info you care to share with us?
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:11 AM
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25. "What the Pentagon Video SHOULD have shown"
http://signs-of-the-times.org/signs/editorials/signs20060518_WhatthePentagonVideoShouldHaveShown.php

"Thanks to our friends at Onnouscachetout, we can finally present you with the video the Pentagon should have released... if a Boeing 757 had really hit the Pentagon."

Yes, indeed--why didn't we ever see THIS video????

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vincent_vega_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 01:11 PM
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38. That would have been a high speed camera
to catch those images in that gif. As it was the security camera was not a "video" camera. It took stills every fraction of a second or so. A plane traveling at 350mph moves over 500 ft/sec. The 757 is 178' long, so would would clear it's full length in .3 seconds. If the camera took two images a second, it could easily miss it.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:34 AM
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27. Oy vey, folks, this was posted yesterday as a what if...
This is just a simulation.

this is fake footage.

The point of the video is to show what it would have actually looked like if an actual 727 hit the pentagon as opposed to the, either, loaded down with explosives small jet or a missile.

Needless to say, the bullshit that this admin* keeps feeding us is getting deeper and deeper.

I will never ever believe their story. They lie about everything, they are secret about everything, why in gods name should I or anyone believe their "official" story about 9/11?????

It was a LIHOP or MIHOP. period.
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:49 AM
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28. Why is the landing gear down?
I see wheels...?
What was that to take care not to destroy the lawn?>??
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 11:33 AM
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30. The really screwed up thing is, plane or no-plane
All those people are still dead, and we're still in an endless war with basically anyone the PTBs say is a terrorist/terrorist-supporter, because of this (likely false flag) operation. And they just stirred the pot, leading people down a path that really leads nowhere with this Pentagon clip. You can't prove anything about the Pentagon, it just distracts you from things you can prove.
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