Heads up! CNN to show Flt. 77/Pentagon video..coming up.

[Fridays Child]

For those who, like me, can't get onto the judicialwatch.org web site.

Elsewhere, I've read that it's no different from what we've already seen. I guess we'll find out in a few minutes.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

1. I can't get Judicialwatch either...

It was up at 1pm, by the time I got home just a few min. ago... page cannot be displayed.

What the hell?

[BrklynLiberal]

2. Maybe too busy?

[BrklynLiberal]

3. It took them this long to create a video that would fool the sheeple.

[charlie]

4. Yeah

It's pretty much what we've already seen from the series of stills.

[Bozita]

5. Faux had it at 1:50pm EDT; MSNBC showed it at 2:05pm EDT

[Viva_La_Revolution]

6. looks like the same video that's been up on the web for years

I don't see any plane.

[karlrschneider]

7. COOL! We'll -finally- get to see that rocket-powered missile

remotely guided by Saddam!!!111!!!

[global1]

8. Look - If The MSM Tells You There Is A Plane There ......

then there is a plane there.

Except - I didn't see it.

Looks like everything else I've seen up to this point.

[malaise]

43. MSNBC was very careful

indeed the guy on Alison's programme mentioned 'missile'. Says you cannot see an aircraft.

[Mind_your_head]

9. Please let us know/describe what CNN shows

I don't have cable (and I know a lot of other people on this board don't have cable or teevees even - and then, of course, there are those who are at work).

Thanks in advance.

[Fridays Child]

12. So far, nothing new...

I'll post more, if that changes.

[karlrschneider]

14. It shows an airplane hitting the pentagon.

...

[Mind_your_head]

54. Sure it does......show me.

[flyarm]

16. showed it over and over on cnn...and as a retired flt crew..i can tell you

as someone who flew the 757 for years..i saw no damn 757 in that video..in fact i saw no damn aircraft at all!!

look its a bird , its a plane ..its supervideo...

with no plane anywhere in that fucking tape!

and certainly no 757!

fly

[Mind_your_head]

53. The 'released video' ....now that I've seen it.....is a total insult

to the American people! :mad: :mad: :mad:

Waiting 4.5 YEARS and patiently waiting for the conclusion of the Moussaii (sp?) trial for THIS????? They couldn't even work up a good fake?

If 9/11 happened the way that 'the official story' says it did, the videos, the PROOF would have been out there a loooooooong time ago. We would be seeing it almost every day.

The FACT that we aren't able to see the 'good' videos, SPEAKS VOLUMES!!!

[TAPat]

10. "Video" ha! Same crap

different day & still no plane...

[gatorboy]

11. From how it reads on the AP story, it's the same footage

that we've seen. The only difference being that now it's "officially" being released.

Didn't I read though that there was a security tape confiscated from a hotel nearby that also recorded the crash? What happened with that?

[DrDebug]

21. Gas station across the street

They confiscated that security tape five minutes after impact. Nobody knows what is on that tape.

[Avalux]

40. Yes - from the Sheraton across the street,

there was also security camera video from a gas station - both confiscated by the FBI.

[Fleshdancer]

13. This is the "new" video? On CNN right now?

How is this new? I'm 99% sure this is the same video I saw years ago AND it was on a conspiracy site of all places.

What is the point of all of this other than to force Americans back in to 9/11 duct tape fear mode? :shrug:

[Connie_Corleone]

15. Where's the plane??

I do believe a plane hit the pentagon, but this new video doesn't show it.

[lebkuchen]

19. I was never a "conspiracy theorist" about the Pentagon

but I am now.

[flobee1]

22. I see 1 frams with a small streak

along the bottom
that could frekin be anything, even an error with the tape

[KarenS]

17. sheesh,,,, I tune in to CNN just in time to get insulted,,,,,

Jamie MacIntyre (or however you spell his name) says something like "it's not enough footage to quiet the conspiracy theorists but anyone with common sense knows it was an airplane"

ok,,, Jamie,,,,, guess we'll have to take your word for it because I did not see a plane anywhere in those pictures.

whatever.

[flamingpie2500]

18. watching it on CNN--looks like the same old stuff we've already seen.

How big was flight 77? From what I saw something went straight into the building at ground level--but not a distinctive plane image by a long shot.

[ClusterFreak]

20. What a joke.

Hey DOJ, release the gas station video or the video from the nearby hotel security camera, or shut up.

Fuck me.

[azmouse]

23. I don't believe in the conspiracies but .... sheesh!

Where is the plane? How could the video not capture some image or part of the plane?
This looks like the same video we have seen for years.

[aasleka]

34. my gut tells me so

A plane was reported hijacked, a plane was missing. Something flew into the pentagon. It must have been a plane.

I have had this arguement for years with folks.

Is there one peice of conclusive evidence that links a 757 with the pentagon crash?

Victim DNA?
Wreckage?
Video tape?

Sure it is going 500+mph but the thing is supposed to be huge.

[azmouse]

41. If the plane didn't hit the Pentagon...

then the alternative is too frightening to consider. It would be a conspiracy of massive proportions. Where is the plane that was hijacked? Where are the people on the plane? And how could all of that disappear without hundreds of other people knowing about it with the expectation that they would all keep silent?

That being said... Where is the plane in the video?! It's hard to believe that some camera somewhere in DC wouldn't have captured an image of a low flying plane. Look at how many recorded the attack in NY. DC is just as much of a tourist town.

I don't know what to think about it all but I'll keep an open mind and continue to listen to the evidence.

[Warpy]

46. The planes used on 9/11 were going an estimated 500 MPH

But even at 300 MPH, that is 5 miles per minute. That means 440 feet per second.

If the cameras did a frame every 15 seconds (or even every 5 seconds), missing the plane is perfectly understandable.

This is just more distraction, more crap, and proves nothing except that Stupid's team is getting desperate for a distraction.

Maybe Rove is being indicted!

[azmouse]

48. I agree that the release of this video is a distraction.

I hope it means Rove will be doing his perp walk soon!

I still wonder why the gov is so reluctant to release any video that would show pieces of the plane in the Pentagon. A CNN reporter claims to have video from that day showing the plane in the wreckage. I wonder why he isn't releasing it. These video showing the plane would put to rest any doubts that people have. I think it was a plane that hit the Pentagon but I have to wonder why the gov reluctance to prove it.

[Fiendish Thingy]

49. I agree- this is a two-pronged distraction...

1) to get the base all fired up and skeered o' tha terrists;
2) to get those of us with brains arguing over grainy security videos instead of something more productive like protecting our rights...

[Homer Wells]

24. Perhaps they used David Copperfield

in the production of the video. I remember a show years ago where he 'disappeared ' a 727 on live television. Sounds like the same sort of stuff.

:sarcasm:

[Klimmer]

25. What a damn joke. It is the same video. All it shows is the smoke . . .

plume after the fire-ball. This is nothing new. It does show the smoke trail as before. Since when does a 757 have a smoke trail behind it at ground level? The size of the craft is very small, much smaller than any 757. I would say about the size of a missile or small military jet or both.

If they are willing to release a few more frames of the video from the Pentagon security camera that only show the same thing but have additional smoke after the initial fire-ball, then they should now be willing to release all the video tapes confiscated from the gas station, the hotel, and the freeway cameras.

Release it all you lying SOBs!!!

Oh, yea, it would prove you are lying. That wouldn't be good, would it?

[debbierlus]

26. They are desperate

This is NOTHING but a reminder to the public to remember 9/11.

Most people still refuse to believe that the 9/11 catastrophe follow up stories are full of holes the size of small planets.

9/11

9/11

9/11

Rove is going to be indicted.

Republican members of Congress are going to be indicted.

They are using this small space of calm before the storm to do the ONLY thing they know how....

Try to instill fear into the public, play on a dividing issue (immigration), and change the subject.

It won't work. But, what else are they going to do? Resign? Tell the truth?

They are in a deadly spin mode.

Watch out for a Iran attack. I wouldn't be surprised if the REAL reason it is behind schedule is because they are going to need that MAJOR diversion when the Rove indictment hits.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

35. I'm worried about what diversion...

...they've planned to coincide with any Rove indictment also. My guess is it would take place on U.S. soil and involve many casualties. Hope I'm wrong, but these people are desperate and capable of anything.

[flamingpie2500]

27. I thought this was supposed to help negate the conspiracy theories????

My god this is just going to make it worse. Some security cameras--or as we already know they only released what they WANT to release--absolutely NOTHING!

[debbierlus]

30. You are right. Stupid move.

Like I wrote above, it is a desperation tactic. But, their tricks are just going to keep back-firing.

People have had it.

[Buttercup McToots]

37. Just wonderin`

Anybody since this yet...
Just wonderin`

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6757267008400743688&q=everybody%27s%2Bgotta%2Blearn

[Old and In the Way]

44. yes.....it is very well done.

I think it makes a great case for LIHOP, at the very least. No speculation, all facts reputably sourced.

[Old Vet]

28. I worked around fixed wing aircraft many years AND

as hard as I try to believe that a aircraft 2 football fields (757) long traveling so fast that a digital security camera, At one of the most secure buildings in wash. cant be seen????? Iam calling it the way I see it,I DIDN'T.

[MercutioATC]

29. Where are YOU playing football????

A 757-200 is 155' 3" long. That's a little over half a football field.

Still big, but not 600' big...

[ContraBass Black]

38. A lot of things can happen between frames

on a low-speed camera.

[jmowreader]

42. He went to the junior high my big sister attended

They played six-man football...and charged the players admission.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

31. No plane, no wreckage. Why?

http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=355

[Missy M]

32. Of course an airplane hit the pentagon on 9/11....

where does everyone think Flt. 77 is. Is it being hidden? Was the airline in on it? You must acknowledge Flt. 77 and the passengers otherwise it makes you sound nutty. I am a believer in some conspiracies but not in this ridiculous one. If the pentagon has a tape showing the plane hitting, it would be wise if they released it. Many innocent people died on that flight and they deserve rememberance.

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[Missy M]

36. I have seen that before and it is well done and may...

convince many people a plane did not hit the pentagon, but not me.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

45. The absence of an answer...

...to what actually did happen to Flt. 77 does not lend any credibility to the official story. Something hit the Pentagon, nothing they've produced supports their claim that it was Flt. 77. What a simple matter it would be to lay this question to rest if they'd only show footage of the wreckage. Why won't they? When has a large jet airliner ever crashed on land in the U.S. where we didn't see footage of the wreckage within hours after the crash? Jumbo jet airliners don't evaporate on impact anymore than steel frame skyscrapers crumble into dust from heat due to fire (after burning only a couple hours) isolated on just a few upper floors.

It is their responsibility to conduct thorough investigations and provide credible explanations. They have not.

[Missy M]

47. Perhaps because most plane crashes don't happen....

within the pentagon. I will differ with you regarding Flt. 77 and what happened to it. Are you telling me American Airlines would go along with any pentagon intrigue. I don't think so. I think the twin towers had more damage done to them than a fire isolated on a few upper floors. Come on now, you at least saw the planes hit the WTC. There is enough to hang Bushco with regarding 9/11 and whether it could have been prevented if they had listened to warnings from the various agencies. Also, how much did they really know before hand regarding this sort of terrorism. Trying to make it that the WTC buildings were purposely demolished by this country and no plane hit the pentagon is foolish.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

50. "Trying to make...

...it that the WTC buildings were purposely demolished by this country and no plane hit the pentagon is foolish."

I have made no such claim. This is an inference you have drawn because I question the official stories. Accepting their poorly researched and investigated explanations, for which they fail to produce credible supporting evidence, is what is foolish, Missy M, not pressing for the truth.

[Radio_Guy]

51. Can you explain the lack of damage

in comparison to the WTC? The hole in the Pentagon was way too small for an airliner to fit through there.

[michael_1166]

52. If you don't see a plane, and if you don't see any

significant wreckage, then there probably was no plane. What happened to the real Flight 77 is a completely different question we can't answer yet. But you can't invalidate what your eyes see (that means, do not see in terms of wreckage), because it just couldn't be true. Fact is what you see. If you don't see a plane, you really do not see a plane. Get my drift?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

55. So, can you give me a hint where Flight 77 is located in the film?....

...Who sounds more nutty, someone who questions the official 911 story by demanding to see evidence, or someone who supports the official 911 story using a piece of film that doesn't show a plane?

I also believe that a plane struck the Pentagon, but I wouldn't use this piece of film to prove my case. And I sure as heck wouldn't call anyone nutty for questioning that crappy film.

[Catherine Vincent]

39. What's developing about it?

This video has been out for years.

[PatriotMom]

56. Check out You Tube ...www.youtube.com

There is a great search ability there as well.
I have the hardest time in the world getting video off the internet but I have no problems here.
Hope this helps some.
Peace

[Harper_is_Bush]

57. Isn't there a 9/11 forum where this shit belongs?

I realize this began as "news", but it's quickly degenerated into another 9/11 conspiracy thread.