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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 09:28 PM
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I have photos of a plane hitting the pentagon you won't see in MSM:
Here is the thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=125&topic_id=77532

Here are the photos:




Exercise SimulationsWashington, D.C., Nov. 3, 2000 — The fire and smoke from the downed passenger aircraft billows from the Pentagon courtyard. Defense Protective Services Police seal the crash sight. Army medics, nurses and doctors scramble to organize aid. An Arlington Fire Department chief dispatches his equipment to the affected areas.

Don Abbott, of Command Emergency Response Training, walks over to the Pentagon and extinguishes the flames. The Pentagon was a model and the "plane crash" was a simulated one.

The Pentagon Mass Casualty Exercise, as the crash was called, was just one of several scenarios that emergency response teams were exposed to Oct. 24-26 in the Office of the Secretaries of Defense conference room.

On Oct. 24, there was a mock terrorist incident at the Pentagon Metro stop and a construction accident to name just some of the scenarios that were practiced to better prepare local agencies for real incidents.

http://www.mdw.army.mil/news/Contingency_Planning.html

Heh....
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 09:29 PM
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1. what was this, a practice run?
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 09:41 PM
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4. Seems in some ways to be one
Does make me wonder - and I am not a mihopper or lihopper!
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 09:31 PM
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2. Wasn't it done w/ the newly reinforced wing of the pentagon
that got hit?
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 09:34 PM
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3. Condi Rice could not have foreseen this.
The useless idiot.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 12:20 PM
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19. Condi was useless to us, but very useful for PNAC....
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 01:27 PM
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22. no,there was no way to have foreseen this, Katrina, insurgency, oil prices
world hatred, results of inadequate numbers of ground forces, spiraling debt, black government surveillance programs, trashing of the Constitution, torture as policy, illegal detainment, lying under oathe....

There's just no way to know what's going to happen.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 09:56 PM
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5. Remarkable...
irony
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 09:59 PM
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6. But I thought we were told
That no one ever expected anyone using planes to crash into buildings? Or did they mean in 1894?
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hopeisaplace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 10:01 PM
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7. I have a question for anyone...was this regularly practiced over the years
or was this something just "all of the sudden practiced"? anyone know
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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 10:19 PM
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8. Um you should watch this really....
Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime


http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=92

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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 10:28 PM
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9. I Can't get to it right now on work's network
Does it mention the 2000 exercise at all? I will check this out later on home network (at home now but vpn'd in to work).
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hopeisaplace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 10:29 PM
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10. I will, but I don't feel like getting mad ..again..right now..so I'll
probably view it later...curriosity may get the best of me though..

read quite a bit over the year in the 911 forum though..
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 10:34 PM
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11. Read a lot there myself (9/11 forum)
but don't really agree with many things I find there.

I DO think a plane (the plane) hit the pentagon. I just am not sure all this was a surprise to the administration - and yet in some ways I do. If it was an inside job I don't think it was bush as much as I do folks deeper in (presidents come and go - but some people seem to stick around - to me they are the deeper problem).
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hopeisaplace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 10:42 PM
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12. someone posted on another thread the height of the Pentagon vs the height
of the plane that hit the building...that perked my ears up..wondering if
that was true.

I have a totally open mind about 911 about what may or may not have happened. I'm this
way ONLY because of THIS Administration. Not the US government, but rather
THIS Administration. That's where I'm at on this issue right now.
I just don't know what to believe anymore, so I pay attention, check, listen,
and keep an open mind.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:08 PM
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13. ..
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:13 PM
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14. I just saw those photos in an excellent documentary on 9/11 called
Everybody Gotta Learn Sometime. It was shown during the Tribeca Film Festival. It's available now as a google video.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:31 PM
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15. related: On 9/11, CIA Was Running Simulation of a Plane Crashing into a Bu
On 9/11, CIA Was Running Simulation of a Plane Crashing into a Building

http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/cia-simulation.htm

John Fulton - Intelligence Networking & Analysis

On the morning of September 11th 2001, Mr. Fulton and his team at the CIA were running a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building. Little did they know that the scenario would come true in a dramatic way that day. Information is the most powerful tool available in the homeland security effort. At the core of every initiative currently underway to protect our country and its citizens is the challenge of getting the right information to the right people at the right time. How can so much information from around the world be captured and processed in meaningful and timely ways? Mr. Fulton shares his insights into the intelligence community, and shares a vision of how today's information systems will be developed into even better counter-terrorism tools of tomorrow.


Agency planned drill for plane crash last Sept. 11
Associated Press
August 22, 2002

WASHINGTON -- In what the government describes as a bizarre coincidence, one U.S. intelligence agency was planning an exercise last Sept. 11 in which an errant aircraft crashed into one of its buildings. But the cause wasn't terrorism -- it was to be a simulated accident.

Officials at the Chantilly, Va.-based National Reconnaissance Office had scheduled an exercise that morning in which a small corporate jet crashed into one of the four towers at the agency's headquarters building after experiencing a mechanical failure.

The agency is about four miles from the runways of Washington Dulles International Airport.

Agency chiefs came up with the scenario to test employees' ability to respond to a disaster, said spokesman Art Haubold. To simulate the damage from the plane, some stairwells and exits were to be closed off, forcing employees to find other ways to evacuate the building.

"It was just an incredible coincidence that this happened to involve an aircraft crashing into our facility," Haubold said. "As soon as the real world events began, we canceled the exercise."
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passy Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 03:08 AM
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16. What bothers me is this....
"Army medics, nurses and doctors scramble to organize aid" Where were they that day? Did they see any bodies? Are we supposed to believe that a whole plane disintegrated without leaving a single body or even remains? Same as the other plane that was brought down, as there ever been funerals for the bodies that were found there?
We all know that they could have done DNA tests on any remaining flesh that would have been found on these crash sites, but there is absolutely no evidence that has been shown of any body or parts being recovered.
And could people here stop talking about conspiracy theories, we are not the ones making up stories based on lies, the government is, they have no proof that any of what they claim happened on 9/11 is true.
And even if all they said was true then we are left with only one conclusion, they are completely incompetent. Whenever there is an accident one always looks at who is to blame, in this case the government was incompetent, intelligence warned them of an imminent attack, but they didn't listen. Even after that they failed to protect DC from an air attack, what would have happened if the plane had been a war plane from a foreign nation carrying a nuclear bomb, would they not have to face the consequences of their incompetence then?
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MervinFerd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 07:52 AM
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18. Wrong.
They recovered remains of all but one of the passengers and crew plus a lot of the aircraft.

The aircraft was in small pieces, of course, after hitting a concrete wall atd 350 mph.
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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 12:39 PM
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20. I've never seen that in print or anywhere ...
Do you have a reference for this? It would be a great addition for the files I've saved.
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sgsmith Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 05:42 PM
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26. Sorry - they are graphic, but disprove your point
About no bodies being found at the Pentagon.





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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 06:57 AM
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17. kick
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Tobias Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 12:54 PM
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21. WHY DO YOU HOLD BACK the fact that large R.R.Airport is just 1 mile away?
Look at google maps or something.

Of course they´re making these exercises because that Airport is so close to the Pentagon.



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dcfirefighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 03:50 PM
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23. That's 'National Airport', even to most GOPers
great pictures though.
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Tobias Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:32 AM
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27. Yeah. Ronald Reagan National Airport. Want more?
Edited on Thu May-18-06 10:38 AM by Tobias




And what´s "GOP"? :wtf:
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dcfirefighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 03:00 PM
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28. The airport was renamed
several years ago. For decades it had been 'Washington National Airport'. The GOP (Grand Old Party) aka Republican Party had a movement to rename everything they could after Ronald Reagan died. They won with DCA. However, the majority of people in the DC area, even republicans, still refer to it as 'National Airport'.

Ronald Reagan isn't fit to wash George Washington's laundry.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 04:15 PM
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24. You cite a military website that continues to have this info?
These Bush Administration people are idiots! Don't they know that this kind of thing is supposed to be secret?

And yet they've kept this same link available, with this DAMNING information, without changing it at all over the years?

I mean, these guys couldn't organize getting together for drinks after work. Incompetent numbskulls, every single one.
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Andre II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 04:41 PM
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25. Nothing but conicidence!
May 2001:
“The Tri-Service DiLorenzo Health Care Clinic and the Air Force Flight Medicine Clinic--both housed within the Pentagon— trained for the scenario
of a hijacked Boeing 757 being crashed into the Pentagon.”
http://www.usmedicine.com/article.cfm?articleID=272&issueID=31

"Matt Rosenberg was down on Corridor 8, a medic at the health clinic in the massive military headquarters, grateful for an uninterrupted hour in which he could study a new medical emergency disaster plan based on the unlikely scenario of an airplane crashing into the place."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A38407-2001Sep15
He later said:
“Believe it or not, the day prior to the incident, I was just on the phone with the FBI, and we were talking ‘so who has command should this happen, who has the medical jurisdiction, who does this, who does that,’ and we talked about it and talked about it, and he helped me out a lot. And then the next day, during the incident, I actually found him. He was out there on the incident that day.”
(Office of Medical History, 9-04)

And just one month prior to 911 the evacuation was practised.
And the fire fighters at Fort Myer had had a training on 911 described as "an airport rescue firefighters class”

The army base at Fort Belvior were conducting an excercise to “test the security at the base in case of a terrorist attack.”

And “The CIA were running a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building.”
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