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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 12:35 AM
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THE ENEMY IS INSIDE THE GATES
THE ENEMY IS INSIDE THE GATES
by Colonel Donn de Grand Pré (US Army - Ret.)

A dedicated group of experienced civilian and military pilots,
including combat fighter pilots and commercial airline
captains, just finished a marathon 72 hours of non-stop
briefings and debate over the current crisis evolving from
the use of commercial aircraft as cruise missiles against
the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on 11 September.


This story was written before the "bigger lie" Iraqnam. Excellent read...

As a tactical military exercise against two significant
targets (world financial center and the citadel of world
strategic military planning), the attack, from a
psychological impact on the American public, equaled the
Japanese "surprise" attack on Pearl Harbor 7 Dec
1941

"PRELUDE TO PANIC"
The 9-11 activity and horrific destruction of US property and
lives was intentionally meant to trigger a psychological
and patriotic reaction on the part of the US citizens,
which is paving the way for "combined UN
activity" (using the fig leaf of NATO) for striking
key targets in both the Middle East/ South Asia and the
Balkans. The goal continues to be ultimate destruction of
all national sovereignty and establishment of a global
government.

The trigger for the 9-11 activity was the imminent and
unstoppable world-wide financial collapse, which can only
be prevented (temporarily) by a major war, perhaps to
become known as WW 111. To bring it off (one more time),
martial law will probably be imposed in the United States.


rest of this story is here.. http://cyberspaceorbit.com/engt.htm

False flag operations discussed here:
1.Pearl Harbor
2.Spanish American War
3.Remember the Maine
4.Bay of Pigs (Operation Northwoods)
5 Gulf of Tonkin incident

Who stood to profit? Greedy powerful "SCUMBAG OILMEN from TEXAS" and their "GREEDY SCUMBAG CORPORATE FRIENDS"

Absolutely no doubts "911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB"

correct me if I'm wrong..but only from true 911 hunters and not those disruptor's/plants from the right.. AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.. BEFORE YOU REPLY "READ THE STORY"

Thank you !!
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 07:29 AM
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1. Got to here and quit reading
The goal continues to be ultimate destruction of
all national sovereignty and establishment of a global
government.

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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 09:33 AM
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2. I'm amazed how many of these type of loony sites...
are involved in the 911 truth movement.

Simply amazing.

Sid
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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 06:56 PM
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15. I'm all for asking questions

I think a lot of information has been concealed. I'm one of the searchers.

But when you start talking about 'one world government', my paranoia aversion takes hold.

I mean, I grew up in a civil libertarian house with all sorts of political literature coming into the mail. Some of it was wacky right-wing 'one world government' stuff. People stuck in the fifties. I think if the critics want to be credible, they'll steer clear of the "freemason / Bilderberger / whatever oo-ee-oo" kookstuff.

9/11 is a crime. Look at it that way. Whodunnit, and who profited from it.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 10:14 PM
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11. Is that such an unreasonable thesis? Given the combination
of a clear global domination agenda on the part of PNAC, the neocons' antipathy to the federal
government (as demonstrated by Grover Norquist's wish to drown it in his bathtub and Bush's
apparent intention to bankrupt it), the attempts to reduce the power and prestige of the
UN, and the deliberatre and unnecessary violation of the sovereignty of Afghanistan and Iraq through
illegal wars, the position seems arguable.
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 12:55 PM
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3. Great read, Funny how some call things "loony" so as to
discourage others from reading/considering it, but most people can decide for themselves. When I REALLY think something is "looney" I stay away from it and kind of feel sorry for the person involved, i don't respond to it. That shows there is an agenda to make others "look away" from the truth. Too bad it's encouraged on DU. Thanks DiD!
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 06:40 PM
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5. thanks miranda..this place is swamped with plants..bet most
didn't read the story..sort of like their chicken hawk/murderer-in chief. I pay them no mind for a mind is a terrible thing to waste. They do know who they are.
saw some terrific videos at terrorize.dk flashes galore,absolutely no doubt WTC was imploded I will PM the pages.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 07:28 PM
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8. Don't you know swamp plants can't read
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 08:53 PM
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9. CUTE !! nt
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AlienSpaceBat Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 04:49 PM
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4. This is the same guy
who supposedly identified the fighter pilot who shot down UA93 ??

I think he is pretty unreliable. He is a believer in the 'protocols of the elders of zion', and has some extremely anti-semitic and rabid right-wing views and friends.

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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 06:53 PM
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6. Really? I did a search for Israel on his page
and there was only one hit, it was grouped with other countries that use AWAC.
Didn't see anything anti-semitic.
Talks a lot about pilots and their views. The strange way the "hijackers" were dealt with. I really don't see anything "wacky" about it all.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 07:15 PM
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7. Can you provide links?
Some pretty strong allegations -- would be interested in some links.
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 09:36 PM
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10. Here's a summary of his first book "Barbarians at the Gate"
Edited on Sun Apr-23-06 09:37 PM by Monkey see Monkey Do
Donn De Grand Pre'
Profile: Author of the book Barbarians Inside The Gates: The Black Book of Bolshevism. Donn is retired military. Served in WWII and the Korean "police action". Stated reason for the book: to sound the alarm, U.S. military is being downsized, downgraded, degraded and demoralized. Barbarians/Bolshivists in charge hold the highest ranks of military office. While we find his suggested remedy frightening, he makes a case. Highly recommended reading for its documented historical facts that fill in many blanks; i.e. Swedish Jew, D. D. Eisenhower's rise to power, responsible for the death of hundreds of thousands of Germans post WWII; Holocaust hoax planned in 1919; history of Israel's creation/ creators; ongoing media blitz foments animosity toward Arabs.. the real Semites. Published in 2000, Barbarians brings us to present day.


this is taken from "Sweet Liberty", a far-right fundamentalist radio show who had him as a guest. I won't post a link as it'll get this post deleted, but you can google it. The book is published by the same house that publishes "American Free Press" and "The Barnes Review", both exceptionally far-right magazines founded by Willis Carto. The SPLC (Soutern Poverty Law Center) notes the following in an article:

"At the same time, Wilson runs a business called Atlantic Bullion and Coin Inc. But that's not all. Until he pulled down its Web site last year, he also operated from his Easley home a firm he called International Commerce Corp., "specializing in books & videos for the family & home schoolers."

One book his company sold, Barbarians Inside the Gates by 1960s Defense Department official Donn de Grand Pré, is a viciously anti-Semitic tome that approvingly quotes The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, the infamous Czarist forgery that purports to reveal a Jewish plot to take over the world.

The squib advertising the book on Wilson's Web site included these words: "The author reveals concealed codes and goals that might be extracted from the Protocols of Zion. Once again our publisher asks 'can you handle the truth??' ... I thought long and hard about handling this book. (But) I will not back away from the truth in this book. You MUST READ THIS BOOK for yourself.""


http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?pid=216

I can't find much on the actual book online, other than plugs on a few far-right sites, but hopefully the above will be some idea.

As to Flight 93, he was on Alex Jones' show in 2004 and somebody made a transcript. I'm taking this from another far-right fundamentalist site ("The 7th Fire") so go googling if you want a direct link. (John is a phone-in caller, "DGP" is Donn de Grand-Pre)

John: And was United Airlines Flight 93 shot down in Pennsylvania by a U.S. or NATO pilot and was that what was supposed to hit the Pentagon?

DGP: No, that was hit at 10:00 hours. It was taken out by the North Dakota Air Guard. I know the pilot who fired those two missiles to take down 93.

John: Was it shot down because the airline pilots actually regained control of the hijacked auto-pilot or was that to replace the unmanned drone that was shot down?

DGP: No, it was the aircraft, you see, had totally unconscious people on board. There were no hijackers. At 9:35, the Happy Hooligans, the Air Guard flying the F-16s were ordered to take that plane out. And they took it out from 9:35 to 10:00.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 01:42 PM
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 06:20 PM
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14. Thank you
I appreciate the info!
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 03:29 PM
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13. "Global Government"
Here we go with that old canard.

The neocons want empire. Not global government.
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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 06:58 PM
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16. about imperialism

Imperialists always seek allies or states or political factions 'friendly' to them, not 'one-world government'. That just isn't possible, and even the most megalomaniacal terrorist / fascist KNOWS that. They know they have to 'play the game'.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 10:02 PM
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17. These "global government" types
Think that the UN is going to take over the world.

What's the neocons attitude towards the UN? Hostile? Dismissive?

This whole global government thing only works as a conspiracy theory when a Democrat is in office.

The NEOCONS want the USA to be the global government.... ie world wide domination.
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Ferry Fey Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 11:19 PM
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18. Have his personal history claims been verified?
Have the personal history claims of Donn de Grand Pre (possibly aka Donn GrandPre?) been independently verified?

The question has been raised at the Rigorous Intuition board, with posters noting that there may be a couple of versions of his name, and noting that he seems to have come onto the Net with little recent history.
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 11:22 PM
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19. Locking
Post topic has been shown to have a bigoted agenda and thus should not be legitimatized or promoted. Please do not cite this person or their links in the future.

Lithos
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