Port Deal = Another Rove SCAM

[TruthStream_dot_org]

Thats right, the ports deal is ANOTHER ROVE SCAM to get the repukes re-elected! No wonder democrats lose - YOU ARE FALLING FOR ANOTHER SCAM! What does bush have to lose? Nothing! He can be the BAD GUY while the 'republican' congress look like GOOD GUYS by blocking the deal. This is a SCAM and the entire country is falling for it! WAKE THE F UP!!! PAY ATTENTION! Jesus!

http://www.truthstream.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=108&forum=4&PHPSESSID=5001deb1c29f1530a704bd987e71d09f

[underpants]

1. Sorry but from all the people I have heard from this ship all ready sailed

this covering of tracks doesn't impress anyone. They are all in the same big batch together and everyone knows it.

At least that is what I am hearing from the world outside the internets.

[The Backlash Cometh]

6. Yup. Even some old time liberals who had gone conservative are

now waking up. Someone who was apolitical was shocked about South Dakota. She said, what happened? Did our country go back 50 years? I started saying that they had planned it all along and she finished my sentence saying that they had put in Alito first, and then proceeded.

I said that now the liberals will be posting pictures of women who died from botched abortions and we will be repeating history all over again. I don't think that it ever occurred to her that it could happen.

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

2. Yeah? So Exactly What Are Dems Supposed To Do Or Say?

They should come out on King george's side, and support the deal? Even though a majority of the public is opposed to it?

If it is a trick, I don't see how the Dems should handle it a different way. They either speak out against it, or in support of it. Speaking in favor of it would be even more suicidal.

[global1]

3. Would Rove And * Risk *'s Legacy With This Ports Deal?.....

Seems to me that * is real concerned about his legacy once he leaves office. Would Rove pull something like this - that may put the Repugs in a good position in '06 and sacrifice * for the 'good of the party'?

Reasons *Co is supporting the Ports deal:

1. Gonna make him and his daddy and friends - lots of money.

2. There never was a threat. 911 was LIHOPed or MIHOPed. They know we're not in danger.

3. They are planning another 911 type event.

4. They need the UAE as a strategic base for the upcoming invasion of Iran.

5. * is still a F..kUp. He still hasn't learned his lesson after trading Sammy Sosa.

6. It's a ploy to make the Repugs look tough on security so they can get re-elected in Nov.


Did I miss any other possible reasons?

[TruthStream_dot_org]

7. yep

1. Obviously

2. Agreed

3. Absolutely

4. Didn't think of this but true

5. Bush hasnt made a decision on his own in his LIFE

6. EXACTLY

[global1]

14. Let's Add # 7.......

7. Ports deal a good excuse to get * impeached and out of the WH - supported by the Repugs; * goes down on this and saves him from the real treasons crimes of lying us into war; torture; outing a CIA agent; spying; handling of katrina; etc, etc, etc.

[TNOE]

12. You got it

good post!

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

4. Jesus, kid. Calm down.

And stop linking to chemtrail nonsense sites.

[TruthStream_dot_org]

9. I will NEVER calm down

as long as this country keeps falling for this stuff OVER and OVER

and that 'chemtrail nonsense site' is MY site and it has little to do with 'chemtrails' (there is only one movie for people to watch on my site covering this and it is for people to make up their own minds on the matter). And as a contributing member of this site, I will link to whatever the hell I want in my signature. Dont like it? Dont click it!

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

20. It wasn't in your sig.

It was the link you provided, which is very different than your sig. I didn't realise it was your site.

[Name removed]

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[Viva_La_Revolution]

15. I HATE SITES THAT HAVE POPUP COMMERCIALS

and I dislike the people who shill for them too.

[TruthStream_dot_org]

16. its called revenue

and its how sites are able to pay for themselves when they arent huge like this one. Sorry but it is a necessity...and Im not a 'shill' for the site I RUN IT

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

17. It's a conspiracy site.

It shouldn't even be here, really.

[Name removed]

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[WilliamPitt]

31. Oh my God

but you are entertaining.

[TruthStream_dot_org]

24. I hate

PEOPLE WHO USE ALL CAPS TO STAND OUT

[Viva_La_Revolution]

25. It worked, didn't it?

natch

[htuttle]

5. Since when has Little Boots Bush ever been a team player?

Has he EVER sacrificed anything of his own for his party? Even once?

Why do you think he'd start now?

[TruthStream_dot_org]

10. ?

he blows up our buildings and kills thousands of our citixens here and abroad...a pretty bug risk if u ask me, but he had no problem with it....that is unless you still believe that cavemen in afghanistan pulled of 9/11. lol

[Skidmore]

8. Well, if it is a ROVE SCAM, then it's an

incredibly dumb one. Doesn't make his boy looks smart or any of the Rs who came out to try to sell it for him on the teevee shows before the all went home and got their butts handed to them by their constituents.

Sorry, * and the Rs just jumped the shark on this one. The house of cards they built has been exposed for what it is, and it will tumble.

[TruthStream_dot_org]

11. u dont get it

he isnt trying to make 'his boy look smart' jesus..he is just keeping a republican majority...that is all that matters to ANY of these people. And yes, it WILL tumble, and watch who takes ALL the credit: "The Republican Congress". Im telling ya - if you had seen that Duncan Hunter interview on dobbs yesterday you would see theirplan PLAIN as DAY

[Skidmore]

26. I understand what you are saying, but I know that people

are alot smarter than you are giving them credit for. First, this ports thing is one issue that is among those that the PEOPLE are in agreement on and perhaps should be LISTENED to, regardless of the gamesmanship that the parties are engaged in. Second, it exposes the hollow rhetoric of the Rs, who have had to back down. Somewhere there is a record of everyone of those R pols who were on the television trying to sell this thing, and we're stupid if we don't use that, regardless of what they are saying now. They had to be dragged kicking and screaming into a real conversation about what is meant by national security and perhaps that commonsense solutions are not served by rhetoric. The Dems held firm on this, and that is why this dialogue has begun. Third, people understand, except for the deluded 30%, that they have been sold a bill of goods. Sure Rs are trying to pull their butts out of the frying pan, but the fire's still on under that pan, and they have lots of stuff that people are not happy about and that is getting harder and harder to explain away.

[goclark]

13. When does the house tumble?

Please put some sunshine in my cloudy day!

How much more can we take of Bushco!

[Oilwellian]

18. I doubt it's a scam

The Bush crime family just wouldn't call so much attention to their friendly business relations with terrorist supporting countries, all to make the republicans look like they're strong on defense. It's done the exact opposite. Now a microscope is on the Bush crime family's dealings with terrorist sympathizers and the republican party has been split apart on this issue.

No, the Bushies were hoping this deal would pass in the dead of night...that's how they've always done business. If it weren't for the company in Florida suing to stop this deal, we would have never known about it until it was too late. They got caught red-handed.

[ThomWV]

22. Only Half A Scam

You presume that people will do two things, first abandon the President (which they have) and attach themselves lovingly to their Congress (which they have not). Its the second half where you explaination fails. But I don't think its too far off the mark to tell you the truth.

Consider this, it took attention away from things which are impeachable to things that are simply unpopular.

[TruthStream_dot_org]

23. they dont need everyone

only those mindless loyal republican drones to say 'oh ok, the congress is ok even if the prez lost his mind' - they dont care about u or me - they will never convince us and they know that. They only need to convince their base.

[NRaleighLiberal]

27. New Mantra - "GET CYNICAL" !!!!

[Yollam]

28. It also helped divert attention and debate away from the renewal...

...of the fascist patriot act.

(sigh)

[peacetalksforall]

29. I'm considering what you say, but I don't think it's on target. I think

the ports deal is bigger than we can imagine.

First of all - it's our fault, in a way. Did we know they were the UK's to sell?
Did any of our leaders protest when we let the UK take them? Are we going to kick out China and the others who own the other ones?

The conditions existed before Rove.

This is a huge economic deal. Rove's role would be to position it. I think they completely missed the mark on the potential of the revolt. If they knew, they couldn't do much because of the secrecy.

I think the sale is due to our economic tragedy. It's not a tragedy to those who are calling the shots, because it is now obvious that they are destroying our country to bring it down to the same level as other second, going to third, country statuses.

They are doing it job by job, policy by policy, and asset by asset.

But, along the way, you get into trouble. The country needs the UAE (not by our choice) and Carlyle and others, as always, are behind it for themselves.

No one directs their anger to the real culprits.

They deliver 'situations' to Rove and let him figure out 10 ways to benefit from something they want to do. That is Rove's specialty.

George is there as the showman (because of his appeal to lemmings and Robertson and Falwell lemmings).

Dick is there to run the WH along with Don ON BEHALF OF 'the group' who are the ones really calling the shots.

If we're lucky, we could get our leaders to expose the real culprits.

And if there is any question about who that is - it's the ones who make the money.

One of the Rove jobs would be to figure out who and how he would position propaganda and messengers to convince us that it is good for us.

And in a way it may be good for us because of the pickle we are in economically because of where they have taken us so fare in the overall agenda. And the pickle they are in because of their mucked up war and their next war.

[peacetalksforall]

30. Why was this moved? I'd just like to understand. nt

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

32. OP links to conspiracy site. n/t

[peacetalksforall]

33. So now it's dead? nt

[TruthStream_dot_org]

35. wtf

wtf does the overall theme of my site have to do with my post? And why was this moved to Sept 11 discussion? This post had NOTHING to do with 9/11! I guess people with differing views of 9/11 arent welcome in general discussion topics. So much for the party of inclusion. You guys suck. I guess Ill just stop posting on DU since Im just viewed as some stupid whacky conspiracy nut here. Later Jerks.

[TruthStream_dot_org]

36. Here ya go - Proof in the pudding

This is how the media is saying it went down:



notice the caption - 'after GOP rebellion" ... mmm hmmm
We all see how much this has to do with 9/11 now, huh? Wanna move this back to general discussion yet? lol!! But dont listen to the crazy conspiracy guy...noooo!

[mirandapriestly]

39. Sad thing is...

he's kind of right

[Harald Ragnarsson]

34. You can't go to a site where someone might whiff a conspiracy!

Only little people conspire.

[JuniperLea]

37. Ah jeez....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=567279



Ya know, sometimes I just don't get people.


Yes, I get the OP... the GOP gets all the glory, naturally. As far as his own, personal website goes... who the fuck cares? Jeez.


Yeah, I've been called a conspiracy theorist myself. Like that time in 2000 that I said I thought the presidential election was stolen... and again in 2004 when I said the same thing... and when I said I thought 9/11 happened because all the things we had in place to prevent such things were magically diverted elsewhere on that day... and when I said there were no WMD in Iraq... and when I said OBL will never be captured because then we'd have no boogieman to be afraid of...

Copernicus was nearly killed because of his theories.

Let free thinkers think for crying out loud! If no one ever thought outside their tidy little boxes we'd not have these computers we are communicating with either. Jebus H Cripes!!!

[TruthStream_dot_org]

38. Thank You! nt