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dick_eastman Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 07:09 PM
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Latest and most complete evidence of pentagon conspiracy.
Hello DU discussants. I am back to give you the latest and most complete hard evidence of the pentagon conspiracy.

Three independent proofs are presented. Each by itself
discredits the frameup and coverup and establishes the
fact of a second aircraft, much different than the Boeing
witnesses saw and reported, that did the deed.

Introduction:

We have a chance for a peaceful transition to better political and economic processes.

By now it is obvious to the intelligent and observant that the US government that we (our parents, grandparents) once knew has been leveraged and stripped of its assets exactly as our nations employing and producing companies were bought out my predators in the 1970's and 90's, all made possible by a mercenary Congress and mercenary Presidents. This is nothing new for the financial and corporation elites, who have been perfecting these predatory white-collar-piratic practices for over 150 years in Latin America, Africa, East Asia etc. They told us in the 80's and 90's that they were doing us a favor by stripping of our corporations, by closing factories and moving them abroad or resorting to international outsourcing, by exporting the nation's industrial capital to market-totalitarian China and the Latin AMerican feifdoms of the global billioniares, that it all was "good for us" insofar as it made us economically "competitive", that it made us "lean and mean," in short, that it was needed "market discipline" -- while all the while it was no more good for us than it is good for a little boy or girl to have a daddy and a daddy's pocketbook brought under the "discpline" of a dominatrix whore however lean he may become in the process.

I have the solution to this. You don't. You -- everyone I know -- is in a fog when it comes to what to do, and none more so than those who put all their faith in a vague panacea -- "a Democrat," "a revolution." -- each infinitely naive, wrong and self-defeating. There are no democratic Democrats running. There is no one who could possibly end up controlling a revolution except the super rich who are behind the very whorehouse government a revolution would seek to overthrow -- and besides you can't make revolutions with the Democratic party -- Democrats do not and can not think in terms changing governing processes -- all they know is creating static "benefits" and then protecting those static benefits that they created -- that is why they are ever the party of privilege, pork and patronage or graft and selling to the highest bidder in every political auction. The Democrats idea of a revolution would be more entitlements, more pork, a redistribution of the same old corrupt privileges and patronage etc.

What is needed is a change of process -- to change the structure of economic and financial institutions, to rewrite the regulations of finance, banking and foreign trade. What is needed is an international minimum wage imposed on international corporations. WHat is needed is the elimination of international corporations, forcing them to sell off holdings in all but one country -- again by international agreement. What is needed is elimination of foreign investment of all kinds -- allowing/requiring nations to raise their own capital internally. What is needed is the government control of the money supply and an end of the Federal Reserve system where citizens must pay interest on the medium of exchange that is in circulation (the Federal Reserve owning a sizable portion of our national debt.) The end of money supply control by the securities traders of Wall Street. A return to isolated state banking. THe confiscation and repudiation off all ill-gotten debt instruments -- acknowledging that the debt of nations is the result of playing poker at a table where the dealer cheats etc. The need for REAL reforms of process are endless -- and each would leave the entire people of this country (and the world) much better off -- but enough -- you get the idea.

The real question is HOW TO BRING PROCESS REVOLUTION ABOUT?

THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY.

WE MUST DISCREDIT THE ENTIRE RULING ELITE IN GOVERNMENT, BIG BUSINESS, BIG FINANCE, BIG LAW, BIG MEDIA, BIG ORGANIZED CRIME, BIG DEFENSE -- AND THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO DO THAT TO THE DEGREE NECESSARY, ONLY ONE WAY TO DISCREDIT THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE SO AS TO BRING IT DOWN BY INSTANT POPULAR DEMAND -- AND THAT WAY IS TO EXPOSE THE TRUTH ABOUT THE 9-11 BLACK-OP FALSE-FLAG INSIDE-JOB MASS-MURDER FRAMEUP -- AND THE ONLY WAY TO EXPOSE THE FRAMEUP IS WITH THE EVIDENCE THAT SHOWS BEYOND ALL POSSIBILITY OF DOUBT THAT THE PENTAGON WAS NOT HIT BY A BOEING AIRLINER -- THAT THE ATTACK WAS A REALLY A RUN-OF-THE-MILL DISINFORMATION OPERATION -- OF A KIND DONE ALL THE TIME ON A SMALLER SCALE -- TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE SOMEONE WAS TRYING TO KILL THE PENTAGON LEADERSHIP (WHEN IN FACT RUMSFELD, WOLFOWITZ, MEYERS, PERLE, KISSINGER AT THE PENTAGON WERE MASTERMINDS OF THE DECEPTION -- THAT IT IS THE KIND OF OPERATION THAT HAPPENS ALL AROUND THE WORLD EVERY YEAR -- THAT THIS TIME THE "NEO-CONS" HAVE DECEIVED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND DID SO BECAUSE THEY KNEW THAT THEIR CONTROL OF GOVERNMENT AND MEDIA MADE IT A FOOLPROOF PROPOSITION -- OR SO THEY THOUGHT.

THE FACT IS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN CAUGHT -- THAT THE EVIDENCE PROVING THE CASE IS NOW SO SOLID, SO BROAD AND DEEP THAT IT SIMPLY CANNOT BE ANSWERED -- IT CAN ONLY BE IGNORED.

TODAY THERE IS A COMMISSION ON 9-11 THAT IS CONCLUDING THAT IF VISAS OF ARABS HAD BEEN CHECKED MORE CLOSELY THAT 9-11 MIGHT HAVE BEEN PREVENTED. THAT IS THE KIND OF CONCLUSIONS THEY ARE REACHING.

I HAVE PREPARED THE IRRESISTABLE CASE AGAINST THE ESTABLISHMENT LEADERSHIP BEHIND THE 9-11 FRAMEUP. BUT THE COMMISSION IS PROTECTED BY A WALL OF OPERATIVES ASSIGNED TO SEE TO IT THAT THE COMMISSION NEVER IS CONFRONTED WITH THE FACTS.

AND THEY ARE GETTING AWAY WITH PRETENDING THAT THE EVIDENCE PROVING THE ADMINISTRATIONS GUIILD FOR 9-11 IS NOT THERE!!!

IT IS UP TO YOU. I HAVE PUT TOGETHER THE EVIDENCE, WITH THE HELP OF MARK BILK, AND FINALLY PRESENTED IT IN A CLEAR SYSTEMATIC WAY.

THIS EVIDENCE NEEDS TO BE PUT UP ON WEBSITES. THIS EVIDENCE NEEDS TO BE PRESSED UPON THE COMMISSION BY MASSIVE DEMONSTRATIONS IN WASHINGTON DEMANDING THAT THE "SMALL-PLANE" EVIDENCE BE EXAMINED, THAT THE "9-11 TREASON" EVIDENCE, THE "PENTAGON ATTACK EVIDENCE-- BE EXAMINED.

THEY MUST BE FORCED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS INFORMATION.

THE MEDIA MUST BE FORCED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT A LARGE AND ANGRY AND INSISTANT AND INTELLIGENT PORTION OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC KNOWS ABOUT THAT EVIDENCE AND WANTS THAT EVIDENCE CONSIDERED BY THE "9-11 INVESTIGATION COMMITTEE"

THIS ONE ISSUE WILL SEPARATE THE GOOD FROM THE EVIL -- HONEST PUBLIC SERVANTS OF GOOD WILL FROM THE TRAITORS AND THE MASS-MURDER GRAND-LARCENY COVERUP.

HERE ARE THE PROOFS:

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Proof #1: Disparate Approach Paths

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pentagonconspiracy/message/1


The Boeing jetliner observed by many reliable witnesses
did not follow the track of physical damage left by the
actual killer jet.

Summary:

Three points of physical damage left by the killer jet
disclose the true attack path.

Another set of four points, validated by many witnesses
who observed the attack from a variety of locations west
of the crash establish the path of the Boeing jetliner as it
approached the Pentagon.

The three critical points along the attack path of the
killer jet are

1) the first lamppost downed by the jet, which tells us that
the fuselage of the killer could not have been more than a few
dozen feet further than a wing's length from the fuselage;

2) the center of the hole on the second floor of the west wall,
the location designated by the civil engineers who conducted
a strucutural damage assessment as "column AA14;" and

3) the "exit" hole in the east wall of the Pentagon's "C-ring"
northeast of column AA14.

The four points delineating the overfly path of the Boeing are

1) " directly over" the Sheraton Hotel;

2) "directly over" the Naval Annex;

3) "over" the Citgo gas station and enough north of the gas
pumps as it crossed from west to east that the windows of
the starboard side of the plane could be directly seen by a
witness pumping gas.

These two paths are not the same path. While they converge
on pillar AA14, the do some from different angles. For
example, if the path of the killer jet is extended linearly back
from the downed lamppost we see that it misses the Sheraton
Hotel by nearly a quarter mile.

This result eliminates the possibility that the killer jet was the
same plane as the Boeing observed by witnesses and it
supports the thesis that the Boeing overflew the crash,
disappearing to observers in the west against the direct
sunlight from the east, but also past the intense white flash
of the initial explosion and subsequent rising intense smoke
and flame of burning jet fuel and other materials -- a magicians
trick that was over in three seconds, in the time it took for the
Boeing reach a point closer to the airport than to the crash.

Click here to view the evidence and analysis of Proof #1:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pentagonconspiracy/message/1


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Proof #2: The wrong imprint.

The damage done to the Pentagon is inconsistent with the
damage that would have been caused by a crashing Boeing 757
-- the "imprint" imparted to the building is too small, there is no
clear-through penetration where a starboard engine would
have had to have hit; there is damage that is consistent with
a blast rather than collison with a solid object and that at places
and excludes the possibility of a two-engine attacker.


View Proof #2 evidence here
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pentagonconspiracy/message/3


================================
Proof #3: Security camera shows the wrong plane, the wrong explosion and the disparate trail of a missile.

The security camera located north of the attack confirms what
we already know from witness accounts and the damage trail
and from the attack's imprint on the wall of the Pentagon. The
five pictures indicate by simple inspection

1) a plane that is too short,

2) a trail of missile smoke leading directly to,

3) the white-hot explosion consistent with a missile
warhead and totally inconsistent with an aluminum
plane carrying jet-fuel kerosene hitting a limestone,
brick and concrete office building.

View Proof #3 evidence here
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pentagonconspiracy/message/4
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demodewd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 08:23 PM
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1. coordination?
Would it be difficult to coordinate the two flights to converge at the exact designated spot at the exact same time?
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RH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 09:53 PM
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2. Ask the Pilot:
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dick_eastman Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 12:36 AM
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3. coordinated intersection of flight paths not difficult
Can you in your car reach a cross street at the same time as a freight train running parallel thatyou catch up with? The Boeing would fly the well pre-planned path.

The planes would not have to respond to each others speeds at all, since the course is determined and all that is necessary is that each plane be at one location at a given window of, perhaps two seconds. The paths are pre-determined and the altitudes.

This is not to say that there had not been a lot of computer simulation and actual test trials.

The problem is simply to get an airplane to follow a given path and to arrive at a given point at a give time -- and to do this with each plane seperately.

And remember, even if the operation had failed and the F-16 crashed visibly, on the lawn, say, then it could easily be claimed that the F-16 crashed in the line of duty attempting to intercept the Boeing.

Perhaps some pilots will confirm that this is not a "moon shot" or "Star Wars" proposition -- although with trillions of dollars in oil reserves, defense contracts, debt-financed-war interest payments, and the money laundered revenues from heroin made of restored Northern Alliance druglord's opium crops -- it would have been worthwhile to the profit maximizer even to expend the equivalent resources of a moonshot to pull it off, don't you think?

We see a world around us where nothing works and nothing is possible -- when you have billionaire criminal minds networking with these stakes -- and likely with the subverted resources of the CIA, MI6 and Mossad (I presume) they certainly will have little difficulty obtaining the means.

But let's hear what the military pilots have to say.
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RH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 08:47 AM
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5. The title promised

"Latest and most complete evidence of pentagon conspiracy"

What proves that the destruction of the Pentagon was pre planned in any sense by anybody?

The closest that anything ever got to that was the idea that Al Q'aeda used a code word to refer to the Pentagon but what in turn would prove that use has not been made clear.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 12:50 AM
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4. Mr. Eastman.
Edited on Sun Feb-01-04 12:56 AM by boloboffin
1. Hillary didn't commit the OJ Simpson murders.

2. Flight 77 didn't land at Reagan. It crashed into the Pentagon.

3. A Boeing 757 is quite capable of making the hole in the Pentagon.

4. The security cameras show a Boeing 757 hitting the Pentagon, and not a missile and a fighter jet.

5. Your attack of the Democratic Party is not welcome here at Democratic Underground, particularly during an election year.
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RH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 09:04 AM
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6. "many reliable witnesses"
insist that they saw an airliner hit the Pentagon.

Not one person who was actually present to see for themselves has since been known to express the slightest doubt about it.

No witness ever descibed the trajectory of the B757 more precisely than Terry Morin:

"...Approximately 10 steps out from between Wings 4 and 5, I was making a gentle right turn towards the security check-in building just above Wing 4 when I became aware of something unusual. I can't remember exactly what I was thinking about at that mo-ment, but I started to hear an increasingly loud rumbling behind me and to my left. As I turned to my left, I immediately realized the noise was bouncing off the 4-story structure that was Wing 5. One to two seconds later the airliner came into my field of view. By that time the noise was absolutely deafening. I instantly had a very bad feeling about this but things were happening very quickly. The aircraft was essentially right over the top of me and the outer portion of the FOB (flight path parallel the outer edge of the FOB)."

http://www.racematters.org/reportmarineofficerpentagon.htm

Ergo, unambiguously not "directly over" the Navy Annex, but perfectly in line with the damage to lamp poles and the Pentagon.

Those who contrive to disregard that and other evidence prove
their own willfully dishonest disingenuity, nothing else.

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undergroundrailroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 10:58 AM
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7. Locking. Copyright Violation
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