Please Post Your Best Evidence Here...

[Peter Frank]

I want the most conclusive videos & documents possible ...that either support or discredit the official version of events relating to 911.

A great friend of mine is a journalist & anchor at MSNBC. He's very interested in the subject, but his duties consume too much of his time for him to do allot of digging on his own.

I told him I'd send him only the most conclusive & verifiable material out there (wouldn't load up his E-mail).

Thanks...

[rman]

1. ..

9-11 Citizen's Commission
Testimony before the 9-11 Citizens Commission headed by Cynthia McKinney
http://911busters.com/911-Commission.html (video and audio archive)
http://www.justicefor911.org/September-Hearings.doc (transcript)


Dr. Jones lecture
http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/files/Presentation.exe
http://www.911blogger.com/files/audio/BYU_Professor_Steven_E_Jones_at_UVSC_February_1_2006_911_9-11_Lecture_Bombs_WTC_September_11.mp3


Hopsicker's investigations re 9-11 highjackers
http://www.madcowprod.com/
see primarily
Interview with Atta's Girlfriend
The Venice Flying Circus


Sibel Edmonds
Sibel Edmonds and other Whistleblowers Group
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=344

[Peter Frank]

18. Thanks rman...

I've spent a great deal of time with your links (one good link always seems to lead to another).

[rman]

19. you're very welcome

:toast:

[HamdenRice]

2. Just look up all the reporting of Daniel Pearl in the Wall St. Journal

I've posted a lot of this elsewhere, but basically Pearl demonstrated the connection between Pakistan's intelligence service, the ISI, and Mohammed Atta. The ISI's leader, Gen. Mahmoud Ahmad, ordered that an ISI operative wire $100,000 from Dubai to Atta, which Atta used for flight school training and other expenses. The ISI has received billions from US intelligence over the past decades, and is a closely allied intelligence agency.

That same Gen. Ahmad, financier of 9/11, flew to DC on 9/06/01 and met with CIA, Pentagon, National Security Council and State Dept. counterparts over the next several days, and was having breakfast with the chairmen of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees on the morning of 9/11, Rep. Porter Goss (a former CIA agent and since appointed head of the CIA) and Sen. Bob Graham as the planes crashed into the towers. They admitted to the mainstream media that they were discussing Osama bin Laden and terrorism emanating from Afghanistan.

Daniel Pearl was later kidnapped and executed by the same operative who carried out the wire transfer. Gen. Ahmad was later relieved of his duties and the operative was imprisoned in Pakistan for the murder of Daniel Pearl, but not extradicted to the US.

This is very difficult to reconcile with the "incompetence" theory of 9/11.

[greyl]

3. Who's your "friend"?

There are plenty of assholes at MSNBC, and I'd like to know who my response will be forwarded to.

[Peter Frank]

5. I'll be sure to send that on to him...

[greyl]

8. Thanks for the non-answer.

I'll try not to think that your non-answer is due to not having answers.

[Peter Frank]

9. Do that... n/t

[greyl]

10. Without contrary evidence, what else should I do? nt

[Peter Frank]

13. I know your game...

...seen it many times. The name of the game is "distraction". You see something you don't like -- you attack, hoping get the poster to engage in a personal conflict; thereby getting him/her off of the subject.

This is the last time I'll address you here directly, unless you have something to add to this discussion.

Please note that in my original post I asked for. "...the most conclusive videos & documents possible ...that either support or discredit the official version of events relating to 911."

Thanks for contributing to the subject matter.

[DemInDistress]

14. Good thread peter frank..in a couple of days you should have

some serious site. I tried earlier to post a couple of my favorites but was stoppped cold by the management
so I have to tread softly here.If you don't mind I'll PM you. Two of my other favorites are...
www.cooperativeresearch.org and
http://www.wanttoknow.info/9-11cover-up10pg

both by Paul Thompson a well respected 911 hunter. I enjoy your input and despise the frauds that haunt this forum, AND THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE !!!!

keep in touch..

Dem

[Peter Frank]

16. DEM...

Please PM me any time. :)

(You too greyl, if you want to exchange thoughts rather than insults.) ;)

[greyl]

15. I only asked who your friend was.

You haven't answered that question.

[mirandapriestly]

7. Don't worry about posting your response

They can just read the Fox News archives and get the same thing.

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[mirandapriestly]

22. You can't give one example of that and you know it

You are simply trying to disrupt this thread and you succeeded. Go play these games in GD or LBN and see how,long you last.

[greyl]

26. I'm sorry.

I could give you an example showing what I meant by that, but I'd rather apologize to you for saying it at all.
It was a hotheaded over-generalized personal attack and I was wrong to say it.
I'm sincerely sorry, mirandapriestly.

[mirandapriestly]

34. that's OK, I've been rude before to you before

and I don't like being that way.nt

[Peter Frank]

29. I have to agree with that my thread on ...

...molton metal was badly sourced. I'm new to this forum & should have done a little more reading before jumping in. I got lazy & didn't expect the kind of scrutiny that's lacking in some other forums. My bad.

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[Peter Frank]

6. Thanks wildbilln864...

...and welcome to the DU :hi:

[Bushwick Bill]

12. Here's a summary of some issues.

http://www.spartantailgate.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1656119&postcount=2

[Peter Frank]

17. Excellent Page Bushwick Bill...

Welcome :hi:

It'll take me some time to go through all of it -- any links stand out to you?

[DemInDistress]

20. good site Mr.Bill...some new links to explore there. Americans

need a new investigation into the Sept.11 2001 attacks or forever be damned for not uncovering the "whole truth and nothing but the whole truth". The list of lies,distortion,discrepancies and mis truths grow with each passing day. I wont wait 40 years to find those answers like JFK.

Dem

[Klimmer]

21. To help in your endeavor, the S9/11T website has several good . . .

original peer reviewed papers by Dr. Jones, Dr. David Ray Griffin, Dr. James Fetzer as well as many good resources (lectures, articles etc). Their site is gathering well respected scholars from many different areas of science, academia, and research in the public and private sector.

http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/index.html

[medienanalyse]

23. take your own brains and

answer the question:

"How the hell could Osama and Atta PLAN that the airspace would be open for four irregular planes for two hours on 9/11 ?"
( question includes the stupid allegation of Osama and Atta as the meticulous planners and the "we could not connect the dots"-theory and the "we scrambled the interceptors but we came too late"-theory)

Compare with a gang which tries to terrorize and rob four banks in two hours which expect not to be confronted with police, videocameras, alarm signals, blocked streets and so on ...

and number two:
take google, post the words rumsfeld.html and conduct, and take the first hit.

[pauldp]

24. I'm sure you are aware MSNBC is owned by GE.

Having said that, I would recommend Paul Thompson's 911 timeline at cooperativeresearch.org

[mirandapriestly]

25. I can't improve on most of these, but the Task Force interviews

The firefighters and EMT's give their accounts of that day. Many of them describe explosions and other phenomenen which is never investigated or covered in the 911 Commission Report.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/met_WTC_histories_full_01.html
One of the witnesses who was interviewed is Patricia Ondrovic who also was interviewed by Killtown. The interview is available at http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/02/911-rescuer-saw-explosions-inside-wtc.html


FBI informant housed two of the hijackers;(I mean, c'mon!) ; possible Saudi agent directly helped two hijackes; U.S. knew Al Qaeda was considering flying planes into buildings. http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/25/1436226released by the Times

[greyl]

27. I think the most damning evidence of all are the unheeded warnings.

http://www.newwartimes.com/warnings.html

The page ends with these two cya huge lies by Mueller and Rice:

September 17, 2001: FBI Director Robert Mueller tells reporters that "there were no warning signs that I'm aware of that would indicate this type of operation in the country."

May, 2002: National security adviser Condoleezza Rice declares, "I don’t think anybody could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center ... All of this reporting about hijacking was about traditional hijacking."

[Peter Frank]

28. Thanks greyl... n't

[Peter Frank]

30. Do you believe these statements?...

...not saying that I don't.

[stickdog]

31. Here ya go.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=5326&forum=DCForumID43#8

[Twist_U_Up]

32. a small tidbit

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/bushco/bush_crime_family.htm

[reprehensor]

33. 9/11 Commission Specific Testimony.

This is testimony from experts who have taken issue with the 9/11 Commission. Some of this information has been entered into the 2005 Congressional Record.

It has been completely ignored by the mainstream.

http://www.gnn.tv/B12001