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paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 05:07 AM
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Most important new 9/11 news
There's been a lot of new 9/11 news in the past few days, but I think the most important stuff is being buried. It all has to do with hijackers Nawaf Alhazmi and Khalid Almihdhar.

1) We learn these two were able:

"to enter the United States in early 2000 despite evidence suggesting they had ties to Al Qaeda. The report said that 'the top officials in the U.S. government' — it did not identify exactly who — were advised in early 2000 about a terrorist summit meeting the two men had attended in Malaysia."

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/27/politics/27TERR.html

"The top officials" - that's key. There's a major potential scandal here. That could even mean Clinton. Up until now the story has always been that US intelligence didn't realize this meeting was important until much later.

See for instance this quote:

"Malaysian security forces secretly videotaped the gathering and alerted the CIA. But U.S. intelligence agents say they didn't realize the significance of the meeting until they learned of the Cole connection sometime around August 2001."

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/2001/coxnews102101.html

2) We find out that there in fact was a no fly list being used by the airlines at the time of 9/11:

"On Sept. 11 there were about two dozen people on the FAA's 'no fly' list, designed to protect the nation's skies from terrorists."

http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/7810321.htm

Yet, incredibly, the CIA figures out these two are inside the US, but these two are not put on that list, nor even is Khallad bin Attash, who was placed on a different watch list with them in late August 2001 and was known to be the mastermind of the USS Cole attack in 2000. They're only put on the watch list for international flights.

So, let me get this straight. The known mastermind of the most recent bin Laden attack is not worthy to put on the FAA's no fly list?!?

3) It had previously been reported that 9 hijackers had been selected for extra screening before boarding the hijacked planes. But it was said that Almihdhar and Alhazmi were not amongst them.

"Despite their presence on the terrorist watch list, Almihdhar and Alhazmi raised no alarms when they arrived at Dulles before the scheduled 8:10 a.m. departure Sept. 11. They and their three cohorts entered through Gate D26."

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/2001/coxnews102101.html

That turns out to be another lie:

"All five hijackers aboard American Flight 77 -- which crashed into the Pentagon -- were selectees and their luggage was held before they were confirmed on the aircraft, and no further screening was done."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54385-2004Jan27.html

They're not even mentioned by name - you just have to know they were on that flight to figure out that these two got extra screening.

4) But wait, there's more! Turns out that:

"Investigators also found that two other passports, those of hijackers Khalid al Mihdhar and Salem al Hazmi, were 'suspicious' in other ways and could have been linked to al-Qaida, but they did not elaborate."

http://www.sunspot.net/news/nationworld/bal-te.hijackers27jan27,0,3333483.story

The fact these two were able to get on the hijacked planes grows more and more incredible with every new revelation.
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RH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 09:10 AM
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1. "extra screening"?

Where was it previously been reported that 9 hijackers had been selected for extra screening?

I notice nothing to that particular effect in the Cox News Service article adjacently linked to above.

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RH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 09:14 AM
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2. Forget that.

I find the reference in the Washington Post article:

"In a separate report yesterday, the 10-member bipartisan commission revealed that nine of the 19 hijackers had been flagged by the Federal Aviation Administration's computer passenger screening system before boarding their flights."
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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:29 PM
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4. extra screening
yeah except the washington post reported this for the first time almost TWO YEARS ago.

March 2, 2002: The Washington Post claims that nine of the 19 9/11 hijackers were selected for special security just prior to boarding for the 9/11 attack, including two who were singled out because of irregularities in their identification documents. "Six were chosen for extra scrutiny by a computerized screening system, prompting a sweep of their checked baggage for explosives or unauthorized weapons."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A26149-2002Mar1¬Found=true

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medienanalyse Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:17 AM
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3. additionally some German news
Edited on Wed Jan-28-04 10:30 AM by medienanalyse
Thank you Paul for the analysis.

1) Meanwhile in Hamburg the trial against Mzoudi is reaching all summits of absurdity which can be climbed. Friday they will hear Zakeri who is allegedly an outburned Iranian spy, but looks a little bit like a CIA asset telling fairy tales. Even the mainstream media know and report it - that this witness is completely not trustworthy. What they do NOT ask: why is this guy presented to steal the time of the highranking chamber (five judges!) of the OLG Hamburg? Is it maybe because of

2) the incredible involvement of the German government in 9/11? I pointed more our in my file http://www.medienanalyse-international.de/mzoudi.html
which is all in German language, I am sorry. But recently and most important

3) there is evidence about the pre9/11 dancefight of the different secret services around the Marienstrasse, Attas place.
http://www.abendblatt.de/daten/2004/01/27/255550.html
This article shows, that the former Chief of the Hamburg police who is very rightwing, btw, took some secret documents out of his office including a list all actions which the Hamburg LfV, so the secret service in Hamburg, undertook BEFORE 9/11.
Most important is: this guy is a lawyer defending Mr. Darkazanli who was openly invited different times to work together with the CIA or the Verfassungsschutz, which he rejected (maybe because he already had the appointment with the CIA, NSA or whom ever ...)

4) so the conclusion is: since the chancellors office forbid several times to open the files concerning the German foreknowledge - not even in the trials against Motassadeq and Mzoudi - we know now that this hypersecret knowledge is in the hands of a private person. It fits into Pauls words about Al-Hasmi an Almidhar that Binalshib is not available for any interrogation by German justice. All three are in my opinion the agents to build up the red herring scenario, and I wonder at which pool they are sitting now to smile with their new faces.

5) since we all know that what Americans work out by plane crashes we Germans do by sudden accidents in the bathing room, I do not give a cent on Mr. Wellinghausens health - except if he really has prepared his position as professionally as blackmailers normally do.

6) last not least I am still waiting for a confrontation of pictures of Atta/Florida with Atta/Germany - since I pointed out in my book that there might be two Attas. There are no Florida pics, only some bad ones of Atta in Portland. All pics were destroyed or handed out to the FBI. I am longing for Hopsickers book which is going to be sensational presenting the German friends of Atta in Florida ...

7) has anybody any pics of the American Atta?
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paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:24 AM
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5. interesting...
This article I'd like to see translated into English. Gandalf or anyone else, can you help?

http://www.abendblatt.de/daten/2004/01/27/255550.html

I went looking on Google News and didn't see any mention of this kind of thing in English.

This Zakeri seems like a total fraud to me too. Probably not a CIA asset as just a typical charlatan looking out for himself. What's interesting though is how he's being puffed up now in this court case. He said all this before, and nobody really cared.

7) has anybody any pics of the American Atta?

As far as I've seen, no. Except for the vague ones from Portland on 9/10. I've seen a lot of pictures of him from Germany and Egypt when younger, though.
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gandalf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 04:02 AM
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6. Translation till Monday possible
unless someone else will do it quicker. He should announce his intention here, please.
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paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 07:54 AM
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7. Thanks
It looks like an interesting one.

I just want to make a quick comment about something medienanalyse said about Darkazanli. Yes, he was approached by the CIA before 9/11 to be an informer. And he had terrorist connections coming out his ears, being investigated for major al-Qaeda ties since the early 1990's. He's deeply emeshed in the 9/11 plot.

Yet, he's still happily walking the streets of Germany today, not charged with any crime.

The only logical conclusion is that he did turn informer. The only question is when: before 9/11, or after?
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