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MrSammo1 Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 01:52 PM
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Flight77. info Update
Flight77. info Update

Jury selection in Zacarias Moussaoui's sentencing hearing begins feb 6th. at this hearing the govt will show the jury the CDROM they have of flight 77 impacting the pentagon. It's the govt's hope that these graphic images (having never been seen before) will help shock the jury into delivering the death sentence to Moussaoui (the so-called '20th hijacker')...

I speculate that the judge in our lawsuit has been waiting so many months to make his final ruling due to the coming Moussaoui trial. once the govt shows the video to the jury, that will end their argument for not giving us the CDROM. this may actually be the situation. if so, say HELLO to the soon-to-be rejuvenated 911 truth movement.

http://www.flight77.info/

Can you say Dreamworks?
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 03:08 PM
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1. You view this as something to rejuvenate the 9/11 movement?
Why?

If the video of flight 77 impacting the Pentagon is going to be shown to a group of jurors, do you think it's going to show something other than flight 77?

Unlikely.

So if it does indeed show flight 77 impacting the pentagon (imagine that) it will put to bed some near and dear CT theories rather than spark interest?
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bronco2121 Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 11:23 PM
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8. it'll spark 'something'
it'll get much more analysis than the current 5 frames. it'll be shown on the news networks (CNN's jamie macintyre is following this FOIA)... it'll just be nuts in the best way, i think.

it will spark new interest in 911 critical analysis, and bring more people to the side of, 'yeah, so i guess it was a 757' - which really only serves to replace their interest and time on other more important issues... it's my dream that this little bit of effort can help crack 911 and end the 'war on terrorism' - BEFORE bush gets evicted on iraq & spying. to me - this is all about timing.

if we get the CD ROM, i'm going to throw a party and you're all invited.

b.

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MrSammo1 Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 10:21 AM
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10. I don't believe in
Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, Gods, or magic jets.

You can't change the crime scene with a fake video. (no vertical stabilizer mark)

But I'd be curious to see the full length lie.



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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 03:27 PM
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2. If the video DOES show a 757 hitting the Pentagon can we move on?
...or will it be dismissed as a forgery by our resident CTists?
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MakeItSo Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 06:15 PM
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3. no need to get hung up on the details
there is more than enough evidence to say, beyond a reasonable doubt, that our government is lying to us. Do you agree, MercutioATC?
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 06:19 PM
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4. Seeing a 757 in the video would be a pretty big detail, don't you agree?
I'm asking if the Pentagon CTists will let the issue drop and admit they're wrong if the video shows a 757 hitting the Pentagon.
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jschurchin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 08:01 PM
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5. If they provide a...........
documented chain of evidence from the time the tape was removed from the machine on 9-11-01 until it is shown in the courtroom, then YES.
Remember DOCUMENTED CHAIN of EVIDENCE.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 08:09 PM
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6. The Court won't accept the video without a valid chain of evidence.
If they present a video with a 757 in it, it'll be authentic.
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jschurchin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 08:26 PM
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7. Agreed, I guess we....
just have to wait and see.
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MrSammo1 Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 10:25 AM
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12. A video
won't change the physical facts. It will only draw more attention to the lie.

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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 08:56 PM
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15. So I won't see you complaining about them not releasing the video, right?
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MrSammo1 Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 01:33 AM
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18. There's no videos to release
Edited on Mon Jan-30-06 01:35 AM by MrSammo1
unless you consider the wall of the Pentagon blowing up, evidence that a 757 hit it?
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 01:49 AM
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19. Weren't there a LOT of undisclosed Pentagon videos?
We've all read about the gas station and the hotel that had their surveillance vidoes confiscated ny the FBI. We know that the Pentagon had more than one security camera looking that way.

(whether any of these cameras, which are usually set to focus on a particular door or gas pump or walkway would actually have shown anything aside)

Doesn't most of the CT crowd here clamor for the release of those videos?
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 03:49 AM
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21. Yes, of course we want ALL the confiscated evidence released.
Are you going to threaten us with Flight 93's flight data recorder, the Huffman Aviation records Jeb flew away with the morning of 9/12, the SEC records concerning who made how much off suspicious 9/11 investments, the 911 tape of the guy hiding in Flight 93's bathroom, and the WTC-7 basement steel next?
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 12:23 PM
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22. What would be the point?
Some here (I haven't seen you agree with them yet) have stated that if the videos don't show what they want them to show, they're just going to claim they're fakes.

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MrSammo1 Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 09:51 PM
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25. You don't seem to get it...........
The facts are already in. No 757 hit the Pentagon. We already have the proof. If they had released the videos right after 911, maybe they could be considered valid. But they didn't. Instead they gave us the five frames of fiction. It's 2006, plenty of time to put together a couple of fake videos.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 10:37 PM
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28. I do get it and your opinion is just that...an OPINION.
There is plenty of evidence that a 757 hit the Pentagon. Some can see that. Some prefer to cherry-pick evidence to support their little CTs.
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MrSammo1 Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:20 AM
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30. Reality isn't an opinion
the physics of a 757 crash isn't there.

Therefore the story is a lie.



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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 11:58 AM
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33. What does that picture show?
Does it show more than civil engineers who examined the actual site would have seen? Why not just READ the ASCE report? There's a lot more evidence than can be gained by looking at some smoke-obscured photos.

http://www.pubs.asce.org/ceonline/ceonline03/0203feat.html
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MrSammo1 Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 09:52 PM
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26. ...........
Edited on Mon Jan-30-06 09:54 PM by MrSammo1
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 05:28 AM
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9. some claim a 757 is visible in the infamous 5 frame pentagon sequence
wrt to this particular video: we'll cross that bridge when we get there.
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MrSammo1 Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 10:22 AM
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11. It would have to be
a fake.

The photos of the crime scene tell a different tale.

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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 04:55 PM
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13. THAT'S what I expected!
"WE WANT THE VIDEO RECORDING!!! IF THE GOVERNMENT HASN'T RELEASED IT, IT MUST NOT SHOW A 757!"

and

"IF IT DOESN'T SHOW A 757, IT'S A FAKE!"


If you're not going to believe the video when you see it, what's the point of asking for it???

:eyes:
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 06:17 PM
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14. any videos of the phantom 77 will be like the Osama fake videos
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 08:59 PM
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16. Thank you.
You're doing wonders for my contention that, even if confronted with contrary proof that THEY THEMSELVES ASKED FOR, some CTists will only see what they want to see. They'll keep shrieking "Conspiracy!" regardless of the evidence.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:22 PM
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17. the problem is this NOT a conspiracy
it is about time people realized a large jumbo plane (77) did NOT slam into the wall of the Pentagon. No one needs proof - it just did not happen period!
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 02:30 AM
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20. Even if the video evidence shows that a 757 DID crash into the Pentagon?
Are you SO married to your conspiracy theories that you won't believe verified contrary evidence?
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 03:44 PM
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23. actually if you would have been there then you would know
no tinfoil here sorry to disappoint
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 04:30 PM
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24. You were there?
If not, then by your own criterion, you don't know either, right?
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MrSammo1 Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 09:56 PM
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27. miracles
don't happen.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 10:38 PM
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29. I'm not talking about miracles. I'm talking about video evidence.
You klnow, the video evidence that some CTists here have been screaming for for years. I just want to know why they's demand it and then state ahead of time that they won't believe it if it shows a 757 hitting the Pentagon.
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MrSammo1 Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:23 AM
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31. You can't change
the crime scene. No jet hit the Pentagon on 911. Any videos shown now can't be considered real.



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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 11:56 AM
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32. I'd encourage you to read the ASCE report, but you seem unwilling to do so
Your contention that the hole is too small is completely false. There was 120' of damage to the facade of the Pentagon (consistent with wing impacts). What missile has a 120' wingspan?
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