Collapse Examination of WTC7

[reprehensor]

Screen captures here.

PDF available at source.

[LARED]

1. The NIST disagrees

They say the global collapse did not even start until 8.2 seconds

See http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/WTC%20Part%20IIC%20-%20WTC%207%20Collapse%20Final.pdf

Page 26

[Make7]

2. Did you notice this?

Here is equation (15) that is referred to in the original post:

Now, remember when a certain self-proclaimed Professor of Engineering rearranged some equations that you had presented as a crude-energy-balance to get the following:


k= 1 - 2h/(gt^2)


Recall the numerous objections she raised about the usefulness of your example - in fact, she even claimed that your energy-balance equations were wrong. And here we find someone else using the same damn equation. LOL!

Happy New Year,
Make7

[LARED]

4. Thanks for pointing it out

How could I forget?

[petgoat]

9. Straw Man Argument. What does it have to do with the OP? nm

[Make7]

12. What argument are you talking about? ( n/t )

[Christophera]

3. Use Of INFO In Question To Resolve Question Is Circular, Irresponsible

The NIST information is dumbed down, and vague, void of any clear references. Example, page 32 "Horizontal Progresion & Global Collapse" has three sentences, all "postulated". The third is particuarly hideous.

The global collapse occured with few external signs and is postulated to have occured with the failure of core columns.

The above image is about 8 seconds into the demolition. That is the core, it centers and laterally reinforces the exterior load bearing tube of steel framework, which has all fallen away, when it goes it is all gone. Above it postulates that this happens with "few external signs".

I've made an alert on your post as it is circular and repetitive without rational, tangible basis as it refers for it's veracity on part of the information in question here.

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[Make7]

7. Do not say that you are hitting the alert link ...

Do not say that you are hitting the alert link to report another member.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules_detailed.html

[MercutioATC]

8. Pot, meet kettle...

:eyes:

sheesh

[LARED]

10. You've made an alert on my

post because it is circular and repetitive without rational,

Thanks, I'm sure the mod's appreciate it.

[rman]

6. don't forget the pre-collapse collapse of the penthouse

First (part of) the penthouse goes, one or two seconds later the rest goes.
Back then there was some CBS footage showing it, which i think can still be found on the web. In the mean time there's also this:

http://www.question911.com/links.php

911 Eyewitness 3of3 (WMV 48megs)

http://www.question911.com/linkout.php?filename=911%20Eyewitness%203of3.wmv
(use the alternate link)

[killtown]

11. All you have to do is look how WTC 7 fell

straight down and landed neatly on it's own footprint to tell it was "pulled". To think fire would do what many hours of carefully placed explosives could do is absurd. No wonder the media hardly showed WTC 7 collapsing and Phucker Carlson refused to show the footage of it collapsing when Prof. Jones was on his show.