Fake OBL, or just a bad "fundamentalist" Muslim?

[killtown]

There are some photos of supposedly Osama bin Laden that looks like he is wearing two different gold rings on his right-hand finger:





Now we have been told that the reason Osama attacked his is because he is a "fundamental extremist" Muslim. However gold jewelry is forbidden in Islam:

Question of Fatwa: Dear Sheikh, I would like to know if Muslim men are permitted to wear golden rings, chains and so on. What about watches plated with gold and other similar objects?

First of all, it is important to note that men are prohibited to wear golden rings or anything that is made of gold, and this prohibition extends to chains, watches and so on.

Concerning watches that are plated with gold, Muslim scholars hold different views regarding them. Some say that is allowed to use such things if the amount of gold is very small. Anyhow, it is better to avoid such materials so as to be safe from any doubtful matter.

The prohibition of gold for men includes pure gold, gold alloys, cut pieces, joined pieces, gold inlay, etc. As for gold-plating and gilding, some scholars are of the opinion that such articles are forbidden for men if it is possible to extract gold from them (by peeling or shaving, for example); if no gold can be extracted from it, then such items are permitted. Some scholars say that it is not permitted to wear an item which is wholly or mostly gold-plated, but if only a little part of it is gold-plated (like the hands of a watch, or the numerals, or the tiny points denoting numbers), then it is permitted. They say that the issue is its appearance, not its value: if the gold-plating is obvious and covers all the article, it is not permitted, because most people can not make the distinction between gold-plate and real gold, and some may follow this person’s example and begin to wear pure gold." - Islam Online

Is Osama just a bad Muslim, or are those top photos with the gold rings not really him?


(Notice too that some of the photos show him wearing a watch. I can't tell if it's the same watch or if it's gold.)

[Kevin Fenton]

1. Looks silver to me (n/t)

[killtown]

2. USA Today disagrees with you...

The beginning of bin Laden's visit to the house comes last. Bin Laden is seen coming through the doorway, looming over everyone. He sits on gray flowered cushions on the floor of the small room. He's wearing American fatigues, a white turban and a long white scarf trailing down his left shoulder. On his right hand are a gold ring and a wristwatch."

- USA Today (12/13/01)

[Kevin Fenton]

5. USA Today also thinks

"American Airlines Flight 77 plowed into the first floor of the Pentagon"
http://www.usatoday.com/news/sept11/2002/03/11/usat-pentagon.htm

[pauldp]

3. It's not the ring, it's the difference in the noses

in the last 2 photos on the right that gets me. Those two noses are completely different.

[seatnineb]

4. Maybe Al-CIA-DA's CGI departement removed the ring digitaly!

But that is an excellent observation again Killtown!

Keep up the good work.

:thumbsup:

[sabbat hunter]

6. despite what he claims

osama isnt a mullah or a real religous man. he uses retoric from islam but doesnt really follow the koran or have a deep knowledge of it. he just takes certain parts that benefit him and his cause and uses them.
so he could be wearing a gold ring simply because he doesnt know or care about that tenent of islam.

and the watch doesnt look like gold to me.

[seatnineb]

7. The Floridian Mohammed Atta also flaunted his gold......

In fact, Atta was a heavy drinker, snorted coke, was a stylish dresser and wore enough expensive gold jewelry that a waitress in Venice thought he might be in the Mob.

http://www.madcowprod.com/index60bb.html

Seems to be a recuring theme among this gold wearin' fuckin' jihadi dicks.....

If they are tryin' to convince a world audience(in particular the Arab audience) that they are real hard core Islamists.....then they are doin' a piss fuckin' poor job.

[HamdenRice]

8. Why do you hate our freedom? questioning about osama ...

means you hate freedom. After all if Osama can sometimes be the "fat, dark" osama and at other times the gaunt osama, why would you question that?

And as for muslim fanatics wearing gold, it happens all the time. Like when those muslim fanatics beheaded Nick Berg, one of them had a gold ring also. And just as Osama can get fat, so can Zarqawi; in fact Zarqawi can even regrow an extra leg, so move along, nothing to see here folks.

[seatnineb]

9. These Jihadis may hate our freedoms....but they sure like our Big Macs!

Check out Hamza Alghamdi:



Apparently.... before 9/11, 18 of the 19 hijackers....recorded video wills.

Can't wait to see Hamza's!

Perhaps he observed Ramadan in the fall of 2000.....just so he could lose all that weight.....

[MercutioATC]

10. Are you doubting that these pictures are of the same person?

Look at the facial details...eyes, ears, eyebrows, etc.

Thet second picture is of a heavier man, but the facial structures are identical...right down to the asymmetry of the nose.

[pauldp]

11. self delete

oops

[seatnineb]

12. This "person" must have boarded the wrong flight..........

If anything....Hamza Alghamdi(who alledgedly boarded flight 175 at Logan):




......looks more like John doe II:



....who in turn looks like the Hani Hanjour who boarded Flight 77 at Dulles airport.....



....who also in turn looks nothing like the Hani Hanjour who obtained an FAA pilot license.....



The official hijacker story is full of fuckin' shit.

[MercutioATC]

13. That wasn't my question.

Do you think THESE are pictures of two different people?

[seatnineb]

14. They could be the same person.....digitally altered.

The hairlines seem to match.....

The guy on the right seems to have a more pointy nose...

The guy on the left seems to have different eyes to the guy on the right...

But as I said.....

The official story of the hijackers is full of shit