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Andre II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 10:22 AM
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Compilation of articles about UA 93
Edited on Thu Dec-01-05 10:23 AM by Andre II
Here an interesting complilation of articles done by John Doe II.
Some articles are on DU some aren't.


Compilation on all aspects of UA 93:

Here now a compilation of all important articles and threads that deal in detail with the different issues of UA 93.


The passengers:
The oddities of UA 93 already start with the boarding process.

“Flight 93 - Flight 93 -= Y” (Jimmy Tuckett)
http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.199

Something Strange about Flight 93 Were any of the passengers supposed to be on the flight? (Frankl)
http://www.team8plus.org/content.php?article.8

Flight 93 last minute passengers and crew
http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?6.834

'Real deaths' on UA93 (Astro3)
http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.279


Take off time:
While the official take off time is 8:42 strangely the BTS gives 8:28 as wheels-off time.


The flight path:
The flight path of UA 93 is well known. Yet,
“Did UA 93 request the change of flight path to Washington?”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x40128
http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?6.218


Other incidents along the flight path of UA 93:
“The Timeline of Delta 1989”
http://team8plus.org/content.php?article.9
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x25173

The Cleveland Airport Mystery (Woody Box)
http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=323

“911: Cleveland, Pittsburgh and Johnstown Towers are evacuated. Why?”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x26505

What was going on at Johnstown Airport on 911?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x26158

That Johnstown Airport is indeed a very “interesting” airport and therefore the evacuation very worth paying attention to can be seen reading this article:
“9/10- 9/11: The Johnstown "Terror Team" Cover-up” (Ewing2001, John Doe II)
http://www.team8plus.org/content.php?article.20

It is worth mentioning as well that a very interesting witness saw the crash of UA 93: A C-130 which by pure coincidence ha already witnessed the attack on the Pentagon:
“C-130 Saw Pentagon & Pennsylvania Crashes (The Surgeon)”
http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.70
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x44660


Aboard UA 93:
The following article exposes many of the main contradictions about what happened aboard:
“UA 93: Too many contradictions”
http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.24
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x23179


“UA 93: How did the alleged hijackers manage to enter the cockpit?”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x39467

“UA 93: How did the alleged hijackers manage to enter the cockpit?”
http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.201

“Why did the Flight 93 Hijackers Wait So Long to Start the Hijack?”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x40745

“UA93-- seven crew members and four hijackers”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x39418


The phone calls:
The basis for all what we know of what happened aboard are the phone calls of the passengers are crew members. A detailed analysis of them is therefore obligatory.

“Cell phone studies”
http://physics911.ca/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6
http://www.the7thfire.com/9-11_cell_phone_hoax.htm
Here two studies that deal with the possibility of doing phone calls with cell phones from planes and the conditions that are needed to manage a call.

“A physical "miracle": Cell phone calls from UA 93”
http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.321
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x48029
Here a list of calls that were made with cell phones, with airphones and the ones that we can’t know for sure.

“Were UA 93's phone calls really recorded?”
http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.258
While even the movie on UA 93 had access to the phone call recordings it is astonishing that the Independent Commission only refers to transcripts of the calls or interviews with recipients of calls. Not a single time do they refer to a recording (contrary to calls from AA 11)


“UA 93: Missing phone calls!”
http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.274
If the information of Verizon is correct than there are many phone calls from UA 93 that have never been made public.

Here detailed analyses of all known phone calls:
“Deconstructing Tom Burnett's phone calls”
http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.288
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x48033
Burnett was most likely the first one to call from the plane and all in all he called his wife four times. Very surprising is his prophecy that he repeated twice that the hijackers would crash the plane into the ground. Something that the hijackers themselves wouldn’t have known at that time.


“Deconstructing Todd Beamer's "Let's Roll!" phone call”
http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.257
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x48034
This is certainly the most famous phone call. Which only appeared in the news after a couple of days. Basically every detail of this phone call is in doubt after a close analysis.

“Deconstructing Jeremy Glick's phone call”
http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.302
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x48032
This is the longest phone call. Important especially as apparently Jeremy Glick was still at the phone when the WTC collapsed. This clearly contradicts the official timeline. Glick is also the only one who mentions that the alleged hijackers are “Iranian”-looking (nobody else specifies their ethnic background) and that they put on red bandanas.

“Deconstructing Edward Felt's phone call”
http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.315
Ed Felt’s call was the first passenger’s call that appeared in the media. As this call is completely different from all the others it is especially important.
Important as well: Did Sandra Felt hear her husband mention the explosion while she was listening to the tape or not? Is Pittsburgh Post-Gazette lying or the New York Times?


“Deconstructing the lesser known phone calls”
http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.316
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x48030
Here a detailed analysis of all other phone calls from the plane. Though the calls are sometimes very short they contain innumerous contradictions.

Analysing the phone calls we can realize that there are highly contradicting information given concerning the following list of very basic questions:
Were the passengers herded to the back? If yes, how many?
Are dead people on the floor of first class? If so: How many? And passengers or pilot?
Was there a hijacker guarding the passengers?
Did he have a bomb around his body?


And talking about the phone calls one shouldn’t forget Paul Thompson’s question:
“UA 93: Why didn't the FBI advice the passengers?”
http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.14


The crash:
The following article analyses all eyewitnesses of the plane crash.

“Proof that the official UA 93 story is a big hoax”
http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.168
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x37066

”UA 93: Why the 10:03 crash time cannot be true”
http://www.team8plus.org/content.php?article.12

“UA 93: Part I: ... and kiss the official UA 93 theory good-bye!”
http://www.team8plus.org/content.php?article.11
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x28985

“Part II: ... and kiss the official UA 93 theory good-bye!”
http://www.team8plus.org/content.php?article.19
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x30634


The crash site:
“UA 93: Analysing the crash site. Real or fake?”
http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.1161

“UA 93: The raining confetti”
http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.11

“Raining debris at Indian Lake What really happened to Flight 93”
http://www.team8plus.org/content.php?article.10


“Shanksville: Is the crater too small?”
http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.196
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x39361
(stickdog infos)

“The Engine and the Crater-- What Happened to Flight 93?”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x40419


“UA 93: How much of the wreckage was recovered?”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x42307

“Flight 93 - Where's the plane? (DoYouEverWonder)”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x43001


Identification process:
“Investigation of the UA 93 crash site and DNA analysis: Background info”
http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.1162


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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 07:30 PM
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1. thats a lot of work and documentation
what are you going to do with it?
Have you created a summary of conclusions supported by this?
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Andre II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 04:22 PM
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2. Actually it's not my work
One conclusion I'm very sure of is that the plane that was seen by many people in Shanksville didn't crash there and that the crash site is simply faked.
I've also posted this article on DU now.
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Andre II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:43 AM
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3. In view
of the ongoing discussion of this flight:

:kick:
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Andre II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 04:54 AM
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4. I think one could add
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Generarth Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 08:05 AM
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6. Not to mention strong indications of two Ziads
USAF Ziad & Lebanon Ziad.
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Generarth Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 08:06 AM
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7. Good compiliation btw
Worth having a good look at.
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bushatbooker Donating Member (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 01:41 AM
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5. 93 didn't crash and cause that crater
and that's all that's really important:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=127494&mesg_id=127494


Good compilation of research though!
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Andre II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 03:27 PM
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8. Sorry, I disagree
There is more to know.

There are several threads that show that the plane that has been seen by eyewitnesses can't be the one that caused the crater of any plane caused the crater at all.

Check out the analysis of the crash site to start with.
You'll find many more strong arguments for your position.
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