Question on something with Bush

[FreedomAngel82]

I was just thinking about this but I'm now watching the documentary "9/11: The Greatest Lie Ever Sold" and it's at the point now of Bush in that room watching a tv set. I thought there weren't any video's until later on? :shrug: How could he have seen the first plane hitting? So how could he see this footage in that room before going into the class room?

[SittingBull]

1. Script

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you, Jordan. Well, Jordan, you're not going to believe what state I was in when I heard about the terrorist attack. I was in Florida. And my Chief of Staff, Andy Card -- actually, I was in a classroom talking about a reading program that works. I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on. And I used to fly, myself, and I said, well, there's one terrible pilot. I said, it must have been a horrible accident.

But I was whisked off there, I didn't have much time to think about it. And I was sitting in the classroom, and Andy Card, my Chief of Staff, who is sitting over here, walked in and said, " A second plane has hit the tower, America is under attack."


Link ( incl. audio )

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/12/20011204-17.html#

[SittingBull]

2. Timeline

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/main/essayaninterestingday.html


Bush may have seen a burning north tower, but never a plane hit the tower. Videos that shown this impact were at least days thereafter published.

So: Was it a false memory? False words? Or a false story?


I don't know. But this mistery was one with a low meaning for what had happened that day.

Get over it- nothing to see here! ;)

[killtown]

3. Bush spoke of seeing the SECOND crash on TV

I believe Bush was speaking of seeing the 2nd plane crash live on TV at Booker Elementary in his 1st "I saw a plane" speech and then corrected himself in his second "I saw a plane" speech by mentioning it was the 1st crash he claimed to have seen.

Notice he doesn't mention which plane or tower in his 1st speech, but only in his 2nd speech:

1st speech:

"I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on... But I was whisked off there, I didn't have much time to think about it."

2nd speech:

"well, first of all, when we walked into the classroom, I had seen this plane fly into the first building. There was a TV set on."

The 1st crash was at 8:46 am.

Bush didn't arrive at Booker until about 8:52-8:55 am.

The 2nd crash was at 9:03 am.

Now the 2nd crash WAS caught live on TV and Bush WAS in the school at the time. Everybody thinks he was already in the classroom with the kids at the time of the 2nd crash. But notice what Bush said in his 1st "I saw a plane" speech:

I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on... But I was whisked off there, I didn't have much time to think about it.

So I believe Bush was waiting in the holding room until the 2nd plane crashed which he saw live on TV in the room and then was "whisked off" to the classroom and that's why he entered the classroom after 9 am:

"Just after 9 a.m., Bush entered Daniels' second-grade classroom." -Sarasota Herald-Tribune (9/10/02)

Now everybody thinks Bush was informed by Card about the 2nd crash when he whispered in his ear at 9:05 am as seen on Fahrenheit 9/11:




However, look when a couple of reporters noted what time it was when Card whispered to Bush:

"I said, 'A second plane hit the second tower. America is under attack.'
'The president's eyes got wide … and the face told it all,' Compton said, noting that 'something terribly grave. … Something beyond imagining' happened around 9:07 a.m. ET, according to her notes." -ABC (9/14/01)

"Bush had received the first news of the attack at 9:07 a.m., three minutes after he had stepped into a classroom to hear 18 second-graders show off their reading skills when his chief of staff, Andrew H. Card Jr., leaned over and whispered to him." -Washington Post (9/11/01)

So here is how I think things went down that day:

9:03 am - Second plane crashes into the WTC and this is the crash Bush sees live on TV in his holding room.

+

60 seconds for Bush to be "whisked off" out of his holding room and into the classroom.

=

9:04 am

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3 minutes from when Bush enters the classroom until Cards whispers in his ear (I based this from watching the video and timing it from when Bush enters until Card whispers in Bush's ear).

=

9:07 am


See my page on this: Did Bush see the 2nd WTC plane crash? Mirror

All the times and news articles mentioned above are linked there for you to verify and you can watch the video of Card whispering to Bush.

[petgoat]

4. All right, what was Card saying then?

Something like: "Mr. President, 93 and 77 have been delayed. We have
to stall."

[killtown]

5. Funny you mention that...

that's what I often joke about what Card really said!

Interesting to note, Bush left the school "after 9:30 am" as reported. Flight 77 supposedly crashed at 9:37 am. However, there are pics of clocks at the Pentagon that were damaged from the crash and notice what time one of them shows:




9:32:31 am

[petgoat]

6. You may be the one that gave me the idea

that the Pet Goat stunt was necessary to stall until flights 77 and 93
could catch up. 'Cause if Bush left the classroom, he'd be expected to
ask if DC was defended and to issue a shoot-down order.

Are you the one who promised a digest of the Barbara Honegger sessions
from the DC meetings last summer? I don't remember that her sessions
were ever discussed.

[killtown]

7. nope on Honegger

I think you're pretty much right on the button about Bush having to stay reading so as to leave DC undefended.