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Abe Linkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 10:37 PM
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Pentagon said interceptor jets flew too far, too slow, too late - on 9-11
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 10:41 PM
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1. Link doesn't work
Edited on Tue Dec-23-03 10:58 PM by Democrats unite
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on edit: sorry the link seems to work now, my browser probably had a fart.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 10:46 PM
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2. There's a far-out,,slow,late,lie.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 12:06 AM
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3. And our radar was turned the wrong way.
We were pretty sure that Canada and/or Mexico would pull a sneak attack on us...
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 12:08 AM
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4. What about that general who told us that the F-16s went like
"scolded apes", going at full throttle at 600 MPH? Except that they can fly at 1200+MPH....
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Knoxville_Bob Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:38 AM
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5. 1200 MPH
Depending on a lot of things - fuel load, altitude, weapons load out. Are they carrying external tanks or relying on the internals? Are they going with guns only or do you have weapons on the rails? Was the aircraft sitting on alert with weapons on board and a pilot in the seat - what we called "hot cocked and ready to rock?" Or did they have to pull the pilot out of the AMU, get him to the bird, unload the ballast and inert ammo and then load live ammo on it...typically, we didn't have jets with live munitions on board unless they were going out to the ranges to expend it. And the alert birds were stood down several years before the attacks on September 11.

I'm speaking from my own experience as a line troop on the F-16. There's going to be others with their own opinions about it as well.
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Flightful Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 09:46 AM
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6. They can d 1000+ mph
But only for a few minutes. IIRC most fighters at full throttle use all their fuel in less than half an hour- the afterburners are for escape, not attack.
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Knoxville_Bob Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 11:34 AM
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7. The F-16
If the pilot does a full burner takeoff carrying a standard weapons load out, he's going to empty the centerline drop tank as he gets off the runway.
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cowpie Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 07:29 AM
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8. shhhh knox
Unless you can somehow connect that back to Rumsfeld or Bush these guys don't want to hear it. Unless, Connie Rice was emptying the fuel tanks before they took off. Yeah, that must be it.
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impe Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 10:25 AM
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9. Who Knew

I guess that's why we're always in a disadvantage in our various global conflicts. It's the fuel tank...stupid.
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