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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 02:07 AM Original message |
The WTC Towers Were Built To Demolish, C4 Coated Rebar In Concrete Core |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 06:24 AM Response to Original message |
1. Please explain this image |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 08:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Concrete core is right here. |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 01:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
33. I love these funny little descriptions |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 12:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I think you can see the remains of concrete in between the beams. |
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Rob Conn (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 02:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. This supposition has big holes |
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Dancing_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 02:18 AM Response to Reply #5 |
106. Right, but |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 03:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
108. Logical Post-Deconstruction Cost Very High And Built HE Reduced Greatly |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 10:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
18. Those Are Interior Box Columns, Evident By Floor Beams |
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Rob Conn (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
4. Stay frosty |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 07:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. Optimum Placement And Distribution-An Absolute NEED! |
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Rob Conn (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 01:37 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Questions |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 01:22 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. High Security On Welders & Pre Floor Concrete Pours. |
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Rob Conn (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 11:23 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. Documentation? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-05 02:19 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. About The Documentary Of The Tower Construction |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-05 07:43 AM Response to Reply #15 |
57. You're ignoring the amount of force the tower is applying to itself |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-05-05 01:37 AM Response to Reply #57 |
65. IF, One Plane Impact Could Topple A Portion |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-07-05 03:38 PM Response to Reply #15 |
78. You are out of your league. |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 03:45 AM Response to Reply #78 |
84. No....you are out of yours. |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 10:17 AM Response to Reply #84 |
86. They didnt |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 03:04 PM Response to Reply #86 |
92. FEMA need to talk to Leslie Robertson....... |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:33 PM Response to Reply #92 |
101. Correct, Clean Up Photo Shows Interior Box Column With Support Cletes |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 03:12 PM Response to Reply #78 |
107. The League Of Common Sense Just Requires Exercise |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
6. Christophera.....check out this web site! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 03:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Deleted message |
seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 08:15 AM Response to Reply #9 |
22. Mate.....one thing is for sure..... |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 10:03 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. So the P.A. has the blueprints? Someone claimed before that the only |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 10:11 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Yeah.... that it is what I thought too. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 01:31 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. Misinfo by NYC Mayor Probably |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
7. Well, It should be easy to confirm,,, |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 03:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. This engineer thought there was a concrete core. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 04:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I was more interested in the built-in C4 coated rebar... (nt) |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 08:10 AM Response to Reply #10 |
21. And why are you not interested in the fact..... |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-05 05:58 AM Response to Reply #21 |
43. Because I don't see a direct link to explosives ... |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-05 08:30 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. There is a lot of smoke at the base of the south tower here.... |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-05 05:25 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. And this proves what? (nt) |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-05 05:48 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. I think it proves there was a fire |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-05-05 09:33 AM Response to Reply #51 |
68. And sometimes where there is smoke..... |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-05-05 09:32 AM Response to Reply #50 |
67. It proves there was an explosion.......... |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-05 01:27 PM Response to Reply #43 |
59. There Absolutes Of The Event We Saw, Or, No Question |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-05 06:54 AM Response to Reply #21 |
44. Perhaps I missed it |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-05 08:09 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Yes ......you are correct.......... |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-05 01:19 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. seatnineb, You Are Awesome! |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-05 02:48 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. You flatter me!.....but there is plenty more where that came from! |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-05 11:25 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. I Learn Something Every day |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-05 04:01 PM Response to Reply #44 |
109. You Use The Official Story - Conflict Of Interest |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 02:03 AM Response to Reply #10 |
104. About C4 coated rebar - Understand Free Fall & Pulverization |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 07:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. This Is The Best And Most Factual Description I've Seen |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 07:30 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Where is any mention of explosives? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-05 06:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
249. No, Just The Place They Could Be Put Protected From Decay |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 11:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. Many Have Passed On, I Spoke With A Steel Worker |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 11:00 AM Response to Reply #19 |
28. I worked in the area when they were building it |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 01:34 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. The Port Authority Built The Foundation |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 09:51 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Twice |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-05 02:32 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. What Floors Did You Stop On? |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-05 08:08 PM Response to Reply #42 |
52. Two elevator banks |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-05 11:28 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Two? One Went From Ground To Top? |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-05 06:35 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Lots of Elevators |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-05 01:34 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Thanks, Some Things Are Clarified |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
11. I found an interesting essay supporting the use of explosives |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 09:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Are you saying explosives are the most likely source of the sulfur? |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 10:05 AM Response to Reply #17 |
24. FEMA is not going to come out and say this is evidence of explosives |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 10:21 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. I seriously doubt that this is an covert tip |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 01:44 PM Response to Reply #17 |
34. Sounds Like Results of Thermite |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-05 03:09 PM Response to Reply #34 |
49. I just looked up the ingredients of C-4-- there is no sulphur in it |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-05 11:21 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Yes, No Sulfur, but Thermite Needs To Be Lit Right |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
12. Re: Only feasible explanation for free fall and total pulverization |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 07:45 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. I Occasionally Operate Hydraulic Breakers |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 10:41 AM Response to Reply #16 |
27. Are you talking about the seed data? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 01:38 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Is Raw Data Seed Data? |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 01:46 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. I once came across a FTP site |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 03:09 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Here is the folder.... |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
37. Have you thought about the use of untraditional charges to cut |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 06:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. I Don't Know What Untraditional Includes |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-04-05 08:07 PM Response to Reply #38 |
62. untraditional |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-05-05 08:41 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. The Van Bomb In 1993 Was An Excuse For Remodel |
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smiley (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-05-05 10:52 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. photoshop is great!!! |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-05-05 11:43 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. No Photoshop-Here Is The Original Link And A Second Photo |
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smiley (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-07-05 05:00 PM Response to Reply #71 |
81. still think it is photoshopped |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 10:59 PM Response to Reply #81 |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-06-05 04:49 AM Response to Reply #70 |
72. No. |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-06-05 03:21 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. That top picture is beautiful but what exactly are we seeing? |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-06-05 05:41 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. It's the concrete core....... |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-07-05 03:53 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Dead Wrong |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-07-05 04:56 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. O.K |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 10:12 AM Response to Reply #80 |
85. dead link |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 03:05 PM Response to Reply #85 |
93. Where did you find this? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 01:34 AM Response to Reply #79 |
82. People Knew Of THe Core And Wrote Of It On The Usenet. |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 03:07 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Great work Christophera! |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 10:30 AM Response to Reply #82 |
87. Right |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 10:57 AM Response to Reply #87 |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 02:55 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. That was pretty tough wallboard! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 03:33 PM Response to Reply #90 |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 04:20 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. Thanks Christophera...... |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 04:34 PM Response to Reply #90 |
98. That was pretty tough wallboard |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 04:42 PM Response to Reply #98 |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 05:44 PM Response to Reply #99 |
111. see here |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 08:14 AM Response to Reply #111 |
132. Indeed....... |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-05 03:03 PM Response to Reply #132 |
244. Indeed He Should, But At Least He Doesn't Return To Go On Unreasonably. |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-05 07:34 PM Response to Reply #98 |
200. And you suggest 2.5 inch sheet rock couldn't be broken through if it had |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 03:21 PM Response to Reply #89 |
94. Where Are Steel Cores In Photos-They Are Not Seen |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 02:57 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. Try telling that to this engineer who worked at ground zero! |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-06-05 05:56 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Core Is Silouetted And Light Shines Through Hallways. |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 04:08 PM Response to Reply #77 |
96. Are these supposed to be the completed towers then? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:27 PM Response to Reply #96 |
100. Complete Except For Curtain Walls & Interior Walls |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 10:20 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. I see. It is quite a unique picture. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 11:02 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. Picture Shows Solid Core And If Core Columns Existed . |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-05 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
58. Sorry, but this is total physics garbage that ignores WTC structure |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-05 01:46 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Not Often So Much Error, Unsupported, Is Posted |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-04-05 09:53 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. please tell us what you know about the WTC structure |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-04-05 10:35 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. this is Christophera's thread; he doesn't support official theory? |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-05-05 09:30 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. No he doesn't and I was responding to Zynx. |
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reprehensor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-06-05 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
73. Is this the documentary? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-06-05 03:54 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Not The Same DOC.-History Of Design Through Basement |
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Sgt. Baker (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
112. NO C4 It's impossible |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 07:27 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. What Happened Impossible WIthout C4 - Try Explaining It |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 07:44 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. This is how it happened - no C4 involved |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 08:29 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. OMG, Official Lies And Fabrications, Get Real! |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 09:26 PM Response to Reply #116 |
119. Get real? Have you figured out which direction north is yet? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 10:48 PM Response to Reply #119 |
120. You Haven't Explained Where The Steel Core Columns Went |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 11:43 PM Response to Reply #120 |
123. Well, the columns didn't start out 1300 feet long |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 01:04 AM Response to Reply #123 |
125. Not Logical That 47 Strongest Elements Fall Unseen-Explain "Pieces", How? |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 02:15 AM Response to Reply #125 |
131. Oh dear. |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 08:25 AM Response to Reply #123 |
133. You were never there Bolo..... |
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Sgt. Baker (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 03:51 PM Response to Reply #133 |
155. contradicts |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-05 05:58 AM Response to Reply #155 |
164. This may be an explanation............ |
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Sgt. Baker (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-05 03:52 PM Response to Reply #164 |
175. I don't doubt |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-05 04:34 PM Response to Reply #175 |
177. Problem is that the NIST says there was no concrete core at all.... |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-05 07:15 PM Response to Reply #177 |
182. Guliani Took WTC Records And Hides Them So NIST & FEMA Can Lie |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-05 04:49 AM Response to Reply #182 |
186. The original design drawings have been in the possession of |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-05 05:54 AM Response to Reply #186 |
187. But inspection records were lost........... |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-05 06:53 AM Response to Reply #187 |
188. So |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-05 07:20 PM Response to Reply #192 |
199. Can You Provide Any Evidence You Can Use Evidence? |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-05 08:24 PM Response to Reply #199 |
206. Translated as no I have nothing to show elaborate hoax (nt) |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-17-05 12:01 PM Response to Reply #225 |
230. There are many who refer to the core as being made of concrete...... |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-17-05 11:39 AM Response to Reply #218 |
223. You forgot something. |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-17-05 11:46 AM Response to Reply #223 |
226. Is there a point? |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-17-05 11:56 AM Response to Reply #226 |
228. Architectural Record would beg to differ. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-17-05 12:09 PM Response to Reply #223 |
232. Good Find, They Talk About The Damage To Lower Walls |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-17-05 12:15 PM Response to Reply #232 |
233. Keep rockin' Christophera! |
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Sgt. Baker (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 08:53 PM Response to Reply #113 |
117. ok |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 11:01 PM Response to Reply #117 |
121. No Steel Structure Has Ever Collapsed From Fire. |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 08:05 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. They knew they would have to come down sometime. How would they |
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Sgt. Baker (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 09:11 PM Response to Reply #115 |
118. more |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 11:09 PM Response to Reply #118 |
122. So you think gravity fall causes all solids to pulverize to fine dust |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 11:49 PM Response to Reply #122 |
124. It does with the kind of mass and momentum the WTC collapses |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 01:15 AM Response to Reply #124 |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 01:56 AM Response to Reply #126 |
128. That's the guy, and that's the news source I was talking about. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 09:57 AM Response to Reply #128 |
137. National News Had Reports Of Molten Steel-NASA Hot Spots |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 10:00 AM Response to Reply #137 |
139. You remember? Got links? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 11:12 AM Response to Reply #139 |
149. Have Redundant Evidence In NASA data. Molten Steel Explains Fires |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 07:11 PM Response to Reply #149 |
157. Tully never made that statement. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-05 10:20 AM Response to Reply #157 |
168. News Anchors Stated "Molten Steel Found In Basment" |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-05 10:24 AM Response to Reply #168 |
169. Which news anchors? Links? Any evidence whatsoever? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-05 10:34 AM Response to Reply #169 |
171. Not Needed-Congruent WIth Other INFO. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-05 02:49 PM Response to Reply #171 |
172. Um, until you supply corroboration, there is no corroboration. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-05 07:29 PM Response to Reply #172 |
183. Molten Steel Not Critical To Proof Of Demo.-Thermite After Thought. |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-05 07:40 PM Response to Reply #139 |
201. Lots of reports of molten steel in the WTC basements- here's one |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-05 07:53 PM Response to Reply #201 |
202. German Engineers: strong evidence of controlled demolition & edited videos |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 01:19 AM Response to Reply #124 |
127. Seriously, What Kind Of Downward Momentum Makes Things Go Up? |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 02:12 AM Response to Reply #127 |
130. You're asking why powder goes up and out? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 09:50 AM Response to Reply #130 |
136. Yes, Too Much Too Far Too Fast = Explosives |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 09:59 AM Response to Reply #136 |
138. Dear heart... |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 10:12 AM Response to Reply #138 |
143. You Cannot Have It Both Ways. Either Falling Onto Or Falling Away??? |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 10:21 AM Response to Reply #143 |
144. Hmmm. Sounds like some all-or-nothing thinking to me... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 10:29 AM Response to Reply #144 |
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147. The materials are crushing themselves. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 11:04 AM Response to Reply #147 |
148. Then Dust Is Blown Out Horizontally Not Vertically=Can't Have It Both Ways |
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Sgt. Baker (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 08:53 AM Response to Reply #127 |
134. are you kidding? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 10:00 AM Response to Reply #134 |
140. I Expect Explanation For Heavy Particulate Arcing Upward, It's Not Powder |
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Sgt. Baker (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 12:28 PM Response to Reply #140 |
153. the picture is misleading |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-05 10:10 AM Response to Reply #153 |
167. Uniformity Of Upward Arcing Particulate In Descent Too Much |
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Sgt. Baker (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-05 03:10 PM Response to Reply #167 |
173. 110 stories worth |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-05 06:09 PM Response to Reply #196 |
197. I second that (nt) |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 09:33 AM Response to Reply #127 |
135. Pulverized concrete ?????? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 10:03 AM Response to Reply #135 |
141. Only Heavy Particulate Can Gain That Velocity & Distance |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 10:10 AM Response to Reply #141 |
142. Lets try again |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 10:25 AM Response to Reply #142 |
145. Why Make Error Twice?? - Bullets Made From Lead For Reason |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 12:09 PM Response to Reply #145 |
151. OkeeeeeDokeee |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 07:02 PM Response to Reply #151 |
156. Absolutes Of Velocity - Pressure & Mass |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 08:54 PM Response to Reply #156 |
159. Question |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-05 12:13 AM Response to Reply #159 |
160. The Air Went Out The Windows, If It Was Collapse, It Was Not |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-05 04:29 AM Response to Reply #160 |
163. According to your theory |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-05 10:06 AM Response to Reply #163 |
166. Why Would There Be Dust-Floors Had Not Connected-No Crushing |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-05 06:10 PM Response to Reply #166 |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-05 12:40 AM Response to Reply #156 |
161. Please to explain... |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-05 01:31 AM Response to Reply #161 |
162. Thermal Forces |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 01:59 AM Response to Reply #118 |
129. Evidence Needed - I Back My Assertions With It |
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Sgt. Baker (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 11:53 AM Response to Reply #129 |
150. what your saying |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 12:22 PM Response to Reply #150 |
152. No, What "You Are Saying" =Error-I Address Absolutes Of Event |
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Sgt. Baker (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 01:11 PM Response to Reply #152 |
154. more |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 08:38 PM Response to Reply #154 |
158. Oscillation Causes Dissipation Not Explosions Hundreds |
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Sgt. Baker (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-05 07:04 AM Response to Reply #158 |
165. only if |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-05 10:32 AM Response to Reply #165 |
170. Foreigners Used To Avoid Creating Evidence + ERRORS |
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Sgt. Baker (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-05 03:39 PM Response to Reply #170 |
174. your errors |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-05 05:35 PM Response to Reply #178 |
179. FEMA/NIST forgot about these diesel fuel tanks on the 88th floor..... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-05 10:21 PM Response to Reply #178 |
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193. is that why |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-05 06:14 PM Response to Reply #193 |
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207. Yes, the seismic signature matched the |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-05 11:12 PM Response to Reply #207 |
213. Ignorance Of Multiple WItnesses-Your Integrity Problem |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-17-05 11:50 AM Response to Reply #217 |
227. Explosion at base of towers. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-17-05 12:01 PM Response to Reply #227 |
229. How do you know... |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-17-05 12:04 PM Response to Reply #229 |
231. Oh......O.K. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-17-05 12:21 PM Response to Reply #217 |
234. Fantasy Without Substance-Absurd To Suggest Resonance |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-05 02:09 AM Response to Reply #234 |
242. RE: Fantasy Without Substance |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-05 12:31 PM Response to Reply #242 |
243. Ruse Exploits Impacts With Simultaneous Explosions |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-05 11:57 PM Response to Reply #243 |
245. Not enough energy to register? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-05 12:40 AM Response to Reply #245 |
246. Yes, Wrong Kind Of Energy |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-05 11:37 PM Response to Reply #246 |
250. No, the building flex does not "absorb" the energy |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-05 01:32 AM Response to Reply #243 |
247. But what would be the purpose of simultaneous explosions? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-05 02:12 PM Response to Reply #247 |
248. Ruse Exploits Impacts To Disguise Explosions |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 03:18 AM Response to Reply #248 |
251. So the purpose was to lessen the chance of discovery? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 04:33 PM Response to Reply #251 |
252. I See Your Point. Making This More A Demo Than A Fake Attack |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-05 12:11 PM Response to Reply #252 |
253. Energy. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-05 03:05 AM Response to Reply #253 |
254. Energy Calcs Good. Consider Transfer Vector, Not Seismic inducing. |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-05 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
203. what caused the power/communications outage in WTC area on 9/11? |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-05 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
204. What could have caused the total pulverization other than explosions? |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-05 08:31 PM Response to Reply #204 |
208. Again what total pulverization?. |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-05 09:09 PM Response to Reply #208 |
210. Did you look at the pictures of the powdered dust? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-17-05 12:27 AM Response to Reply #208 |
214. Evidence Dismissal Routine-Aimed At Influencing Newbies |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-17-05 12:34 AM Response to Reply #214 |
215. And all of the dust that covered nooks and crannies in office and |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-17-05 05:02 AM Response to Reply #215 |
219. No one is saying there was not dust |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-17-05 11:22 AM Response to Reply #219 |
222. Dust Too Fine, Too Much, Went Too Far & Too High |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-17-05 11:39 AM Response to Reply #222 |
224. How would you know that? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-18-05 04:23 PM Response to Reply #224 |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-18-05 04:39 PM Response to Reply #235 |
236. This is very simple |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-18-05 09:42 PM Response to Reply #236 |
239. I've Seen No Evidence From You That Survives Tests Of Logic |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-18-05 10:02 PM Response to Reply #239 |
240. Speaking of logical tests |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-19-05 02:24 AM Response to Reply #240 |
241. Intentional Confusion Follows Failure To Reason |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-05 09:10 PM Response to Reply #208 |
255. What Falsehood: Only Sand And Gravel |
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Sgt. Baker (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-05 08:32 PM Response to Reply #204 |
209. I liked this part |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-05 09:32 PM Response to Reply #209 |
211. Apparently you only looked at the pictures. there were several videos |
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Sgt. Baker (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-17-05 06:11 AM Response to Reply #211 |
220. When |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-18-05 04:47 PM Response to Reply #220 |
237. Did they see the AA number on the tail? which plane was it?? |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-18-05 04:57 PM Response to Reply #220 |
238. You seem to have a simplstic view- there were videos and you don't |
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205. What caused the widespread fires and explosion/fire damage in basements & |
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