Karl Schwarz has announced he will run for President in 08

[seemslikeadream]

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[Dancing_Dave]

1. If Schwarz was serious about this

He would run against whoever the neo-cons put up in the Republican primaries. The "American Independent Party" won't even be noticed.

I do recomend people read Schwarz's "Pop Goes the Bush Mythology Bubble" series, he definately has some interesting evidence and ideas.
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/120404Schwarz/120404schwarz.html

[demodewd]

2. If..

If Schwarz runs as a Republican he may be ignored like the Dems ignore LaRouche.But then again ...there's a whole lot of time between then and now.

[Dancing_Dave]

4. These days, less Dems are ignoring LaRouche

His "Franklin Roosevelt all the way" message has struck a timely responsive chord, and he has a real movement going.

And of course, LaRouche has said all along that the official story of 9/11 is bogus, it was really an "inside job", and Dick Cheney was the main man behind it.

[thebigidea]

5. a timely, responsive chord? with who?

[demodewd]

6. re:LaRouche

LaRouche is still outside the mainstream Dem power control center. Maybe there's a slight upsurge in grass roots interest. Is that what you really mean?

I like his FDR message. I think he is right on about massive FDR type Fed programs for the working class. It just shows us what the DNC pays tribute to and who really controls them...the globalists.

[seemslikeadream]

3. Karl Schwarz interview (5/2/05)

Karl Schwarz Discusses the newly discovered video footage from 9/11 on today's National Intel Report w/ host John Stadtmiller and adamantly states that:

"...The plane that you're looking at in that picture is not what was advertised to us"

Here's an excerpt from the interview:

Karl Schwarz: I've got one lab that's already done just a cursory overlay of a 737 and of a 747 on that image and the 747 is condsiderably larger...

...The plane that you're looking at in that picture is not what was advertised to us"

John Stadtmiller: And they're saying what struck the tower was what model plane?

Schwarz: It was flight 175 out of Boston. It was a 767... which has a total wing span in the neighborhood of about 55.. 56 feet larger than that airplane (in the image).

You can listen to the entire Karl Schwarz interview from today's broadcast of The National Intel Report here (5/2/05):


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http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Stadt/0505/20050502_Mon_Stadtmiller.m3u
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http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Stadt/0505/20050502_Mon_Stadtmiller.ram

[Frederik]

7. Wow

Thanks, Seemslikeadream. I've got to say, Karl Schwartz is either a) a self-aggrandizing moron and a liar, or b) very close to solving this whole thing. The thing about his version of events is that it seems so unnecessarily intricate. Which doesn't necessarily mean it isn't true, of course.

So he claims to have tracked down the guy who shot the WTC video clip he stumbled across in Denys Arcand's "Les Invasions Barbares", and gotten the lab work done as mentioned in the snippet above, which apparently indicates that it wasn't a 767 but rather a 737 that hit the north tower. Which is what I would think of as an unnecessary layer of complexity to add to the mix. Switching planes? But, if they wanted to do this with remote controlled airplanes, maybe that would have been a necessity. So maybe they did. (as for where they disposed of the passengers and the planes, I have no idea, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen) It does sound very unlikely though, so I'm eagerly awaiting some kind of evidence for this extraordinary claim. From the pictures I agree that it resembles a 737, but it could also be a 767. He claims that they have been able to determine the dimensions with some precision though.

As for the Pentagon crash, he actually claimed to have spoken with some of the people who prepared the plane/drone that was used (!) and to have visited many plants where the military does work on UAVs to do research on that. So, again, either he's lying or he's a master detective hot on the trail of the conspiracy. I'm undecided and will remain so until he presents some actual evidence for these claims.

Also interesting that he claims to have uncovered a 300-page document ("game-plan for the year 2020", which "reads like a Stephen King novel") from around 1998, which he claims they are still working on determining the authenticity of, and which purportedly lays out the details of a planned "permanent war" for asserting American pre-eminence around the world and seize control of as much of the world's resources as possible, which would be necessary in order to maintain the dollar as the world currency and overall continued American hegemony. Iran, Venezuela and Nigeria are purportedly on the list of countries against which military action was planned back then, to seize their oil.

He claims that the neo-cons are front men for the real cabal (the corporate overlords I guess), which I think is not at all unlikely.

Mr Schwarz is a puzzling figure, he appears to be an intelligent man and knowledgeable about a whole range of things. It's difficult to do a background check on him on the internet, but his businesses appear to at least exist. And now he's going to run for president for a newly formed Independent Party. I'm unconvinced, but it will be interesting to see what happens next (don't think Schwarz will be president any time soon though...).

He also claims that his son has been working on the war plan for the invasion of Iran for the last three months in the Baghdad Green Zone...

"I think financial terrorism is the underlying root of all other forms of terrorism"
- Karl Schwarz

[slaveplanet]

16. More

KS- I went back and looked at everything on Phil Jayhan's site letsroll.

JS-um huh

KS- very very closely, I mean every minute detail of these planes..uhh ..as compared to as what you're seeing in that photograph right there...and one of the things...ahh...the plane in the...in the actual Jayhan site, what was released from CNN...Actually shows those three..ahh..extensions coming off of the wing... these, these planes have two.

JS- Now when you're saying extensions...ahh...folks...on an aircraft, and, and I used to be an aircraft mechanic...it was rotary wings not , not fixed winged aircraft ...but when he's talking about extensions here...If you've ever been on board a commercial jet, and you're lucky enough to have the window seat. If you look out over the wing...ahh...what you'll see is protrusions and it's a housing that houses a worm gear which actually sets the flaps on the aircraft.

KS-yeah...yeah, it's part of the uhh...it's part of the flaps coming up and down

JS-OK

KS-and there is a worm gear in a kind of...everything goes at a right angle...the worm gear goes into the belly of the plane , goes out the wing, and when it turns, it turns another gear and that one turns that one and drops it down and pulls it back.

JS-some..some planes have one, some planes have two , some planes have more...but on this particular plane

KS- there's two...and a 767...has three......Now...ahh...what CNN showed us was a 767...it makes me wonder if what we saw on 9/11 that morning on CNN was just like-made for TV movie

JS- well...that would be a more plausible explaination than what I've heard...that it...that it's a hologram...hah hah hah...folks we'll be right back with Karl Schwarz



Good times :nuke:

[dbeach]

8. "No no no don't try to get youself elected...

you you you better cut your hair
and it seems to be a long long long time before the dawn "CSNY

I often speak with Karl on e-mail and am reading his book..:"sEND HIM BACK TO cRAWFORD"

HE BLAMES 9/11 ON THE cASPAIN OIL DEAL WHICH THE tALIBAN HAD BLOCKED TIL THEY WERE OFFED BY US inVASION..thE bridas CO. HAD SIGNED DEAL WITH THE tALIBAN but THE INVASION STOPPED THE DEAL

caspian oil and gas= 10 TRILLION...

[Frederik]

9. Hey, I'm excited about what he does

Just trying to exhibit some healthy scepticism.

[dbeach]

10. 10 trillion is lotta fuel..

enough to kill 3,000 and thousands more..

First causalty in war is the TRUTH

Karl stays on the case..caspian oil deal was huge motivator..for the crime onf humanity..
9/11 the unsolved crime..WHY???

[Frederik]

13. I agree that

establishing an American presence in Central Asia and controlling the Caspian oil was probably one of the motivations for the American arm of the 9/11 conspiracy.

Schwarz now claims to have discovered a document that lays out a plan for full-fledged global domination, if this is genuine, then the ambitions did not stop in Central Asia or the Middle East.

They're working on establishing the authenticity of the document, hopefully they will publish it soon - it should make for an extremely interesting read.

[seemslikeadream]

12. Hey there Frederik

You feel pretty healthy to me.

and you're lookin' really fine also. :hi:

[Frederik]

14. Hey there!

You're not looking too bad yourself! :hi:

[seemslikeadream]

11. To sing the blues you've got to live the tunes dbeach

One morning I woke up and I knew
You were really gone
A new day, a new way, I knew
I should see it along
Go your way, I'll go mine and
Carry on

The sky is clearing and the night
Has gone out
The sun, he come, the world
is all full of light
Rejoice, rejoice, we have no choice but
To carry on

The fortunes of fables are able
To sing the song
Now witness the quickness with which
We get along
To sing the blues you've got to live the tunes and
Carry on

Carry on
Love is coming
Love is coming to us all

Where are you going now my love?
Where will you be tomorrow?
Will you bring me happiness?
Will you bring me sorrow?
Oh, the questions of a thousand dreams
What you do and what you see
Lover can you talk to me?

Girl when I was on my own
Chasing you down
What was it made you run?
Trying your best just to get around.
The questions of a thousand dreams
What you do and what you see
Lover can you talk to me?

[dbeach]

15. I wisj some of the ole rockers and folkers from the 60s and 70s

would get up and start shouting bout this police state that these criminal pols from both parties but mostly repuks are strangling FREEDOM with

"Find the cost of Freedom buried in the land..mother earth will follow you..find the cost"

4 dead in Olieo
" tin soldiers and bushcos comin..we on our own...this summer I hear the drummin 4 dead in Ohio"
5/1/70 NG killed the students..you knew something was terribly wrong with America..

Is bush and the fascists not our wildest nightmares becoming reality??

"The controls are in the hands of fools" Pink Floyd