Hey where did that great post on seismic spikes and molten metal go?

[Dancing_Dave]

The seismic spikes and molten metal that persisted for (at least) weaks beneath WTC rubble, caused by high-temperature explosives in the WTC Towers sub-basements? That one was really deep and significant and had lots of information contributed by dozens of people here. I hadn't gotten through all the links when I had to go play music...I come back and it's gone!

How did all that good work get thrown away?

[Christophera]

1. Yes, Good Thread. What Happened To It?

There was a real variety of information on that thread.

The seismic spikes and molten metal are conclusive elements of proof that there was a demolition. It seems that when people see information with veracity, and they have a valid comment or other information with high veracity, they want the quality information to reside together. Sort of hopeful way of randomly compiling data that might make a difference, might bring us the truth.

That massive spike BEFORE the debris load hits the ground is really telling. Ten seconds is a long time to a seismometer.

Then the molten steel. I've studied foundry work for many years, always interested in how one could get enough heat together to melt steel. Never did do it except with a cutting torch, too much dissapation to ever melt an entire chunk.

To have so much in one place that it would retain its heat for weeks, well ............. all I can say it that this is impossible under those conditions with anything except thermite. Since there were no massive explosions reported at ground level, (subterrainian only) and the severing of some of the major exterior box columns and interior columns was needed to leave the debris as it was, it is clear that thermite was used. It does not explode but does burn fast enough to be a fully functional part of a demolition where high explosives are used.

[MrSammo1]

8. I wonder?

I wonder if the dust from the WTC contained high levels of iron? Anything that created pools of molten steel had to vaporize quite a bit of it.

[Dancing_Dave]

9. As a matter of fact, WTC dust was coated with Iron!

And other elementary metal condensed metal depositos (Zinc, Lead etc.) indicative of extremely high temperatures and explosive stress levels.

Here's some research from RJ Lee's electron microscope scope lab on WTC dust from right across the street, in the Deutsche Bank building:
http://www.nyenvirolaw.org/WTC/130%20Liberty%20Street/Mike%20Davis%20LMDC%20130%20Liberty%20Documents/Signature%20of%20WTC%20dust/WTCDustSignature_ExpertReport.051304.1646.mp.pdf

http://www.nyenvirolaw.org/WTC/130%20Liberty%20Street/Mike%20Davis%20LMDC%20130%20Liberty%20Documents/Signature%20of%20WTC%20dust/WTC%20Dust%20Signature.Metals%20and%20Organics.Final.121503.pdf

Sorry the New York Environmental Law and Justice Project uses such long URL's!

Also google "Thomas Cahill" 9/11. Professor Cahill of UC-Davis reseached smoke from the smoldering rubble pile days and weeks after 9/11. Vaporized dirt, glass and metals were still coming up from deep in the WTC rubble pile! Cahill correctly predicted that there would be long term health consequences for those working on that pile after 9/11.

There was quite an intense thermo-explosive event down there!

[MrSammo1]

10. Thanks

Thanks for the links.

At every turn, more and more deception.

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/04/316532.shtml

http://69.28.73.17/thornarticles/911passengerlist.html

Vinnie S.

[Dancing_Dave]

11. Yes indeed, deception everywhere you really dig for information!

The whole official 9/11 myth collapses under scrutiny...and the impact of this myth on the whole world has been devastating. Look what's happening in Iraq today:
http://iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/tiki-index.php

The only way out of the mortal trap in which we find ourself is to expose the truth.

[Dancing_Dave]

13. And hey man, it's very nice to see you here!

:yourock:

[Dancing_Dave]

12. You may also find this scientific research interesting

One of the very first scientific studies of WTC explosive debris (dust) done from an environmental/public health concern point of view:
http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/members/2002/110p703-714lioy/lioy-full.html

They even thought to identify radionuclides by the their quantum emission spectrum, and identified Uranium, Actinium and Thorium. That should get you thinking.

To put this in the context of the broader official 9/11 cover-up, Joel Kupferman's "The Public Health Fallout from September 11: Official Deception and Long Term Damage" will be helpful:
http://www.nyenvirolaw.org/PDF/Kupferman-Chapter-in-LOST-LIBERTIES.pdf

[cyberpj]

2. I just searched "all forums" on "molten" and it's GONE

At least I couldn't find it anywhere. And I was just reading it last night so I know it was hear within the last 24 hours.

Hmmm.......

Can was ask admins? Was it a bogus article or something?

Very strange.

[cyberpj]

3. Anyone.......? Anyone.......? HELLO?

[Dancing_Dave]

4. A lot of us are getting sick of this censorship!

Lots of work, thought and relevant information goes into a thread, and then it mysteriously disappears! :think:

[ancient_nomad]

5. This may be the thread .....

you are looking for? I bookmarked it awhile ago. Hopefully it is the
one.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x34357#34623

[Dancing_Dave]

6. That is a thread with important info and great links!

It surely should be of interest to the rapidly growing number of people interested in the 9/11 complicity of the Bush Administration neo-cons, and their buisness partners (who in this case seem to have included multi-billion dollar WTC insurance benificiary Larry "pull it" Silverstein).

There seems to have been another thread that disappeared somehow, but actually the one you found is better, it really puts it in a more understandable context. Down with the Official 9/11 Propaganda Myth that's destroying our future in it's calculated aftermath!

[Christophera]

7. Yes,The "seismic spikes and molten metal" Thread Is Gone

Did I hear there was a new mod a couple weeks back?

I notice that often right after I post there is another post labeled "ignored". Someone is trying to communicate with me and the data is blocked.

I saw them on another computer about a week ago, for a few minutes, then I logged on, poof!

[dbt]

14. A VERY good question.

I notice there's still no response.

[Lithos]

15. Answer

Which I posted before.

I removed several threads due to their sources which included:

www.americanfreepress.com
www.libertyforum.org
www.whatreallyhappened.com
www.rense.com

The first is a hate website associated (founded) by Willis Carto, a noted anti-Semite and historical revisionist.

The second is a Libertarian website whose forums indicate a focus on hate. (White supremacy, several forums devoted to anti-Semitic and Anti-Muslim hate topics). This website seems to be either directly or indirectly associated with several other hate sites such as Stormfront.

The last two are portals and rebranders of material in that they either create indirect links to material off site, or they take a website's material and then encapsulate it so it comes from their website. I've seen material from not only AFP and Liberty Forum, but also StormFront, The Barnes Review, and the International Historical Review - all noted hate sites. As such they are legitimizing known hate sites.

Sites such as these above either have shown an agenda for which "facts" and stories are crafted to follow, or they lack the editorial sense to review the source of material for whatever reason. In any event, they are not considered credible for usage here on DU.

If you have any further questions, then contact Skinner.

Lithos
Sept 11 Forum Moderator
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