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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 12:41 AM
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I Just Read The Best Article I've Ever Read on the Events of 911 ....
Edited on Thu Apr-07-05 12:46 AM by global1
in the San Francisco Bay Guardian. It talks about what preceded 911, what happened that day and what followed. In reading it - it really IMHO damns * Co. Seeing that I don't know how to put up a link on this board - I'll type it out:

http://www.sfbg.com/39/25/cover_conspiracy.html

I apologize if this has been posted before - if it was - I didn't catch it here.

Just as an additional comment. Remember the movie "Close Encounters of a Third Kind". People all over were drawn to Devil's Tower because they were provided signs. Somehow I have that same type of feeling when I think of 911. I believe that there is a large portion of the American public that are somehow drawn to this 911 event - something keeps calling out to us that says - something just ain't what we've been told. This article provides me with a little comfort that others have the same suspicions that I have and have had from the minute I watched the events of that day and subsequent days unfold.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 12:42 AM
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1. kick n/t
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 12:56 AM
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2. PNAC, PNAC, PNAC -n/t
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 01:24 AM
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3. The 911 omission report says that
Edited on Thu Apr-07-05 01:27 AM by DulceDecorum
passengers boarded Flight 11
AFTER it had closed the doors and pulled away onto the runway.
Hmmm

At the Pentagon, a few pieces of plane debris were found.
They have LIME-GREEN primer on them.
Low VOC lime-green paint entered use as a Boeing primer in 2000. The plane was built in 1991 and
Boeing was using DARK-GREEN primer at the time.
Hmmm

According to the Bureau of Transportation Statistics
(a federal agency)
Flight 11 and Flight 77 were NOT scheduled to fly on September 11 and NEITHER flight took off from ANY US airport.
(Due to much scrutiny,
the BTS has now issued a disclaimer and altered the stats.
Goggle for the old info.)
Hmmm

According to the FAA
(who has written at least one report on the events of that day)
BOTH United Airlines planes remain registered and in good health.
Both American Airlines planes were de-registered by their respective (and unknown) owners who appear to have claimed that both planes were destroyed on January 14, 2002.
Hmmm

As for the numerous cell-phone calls - not one single call generated a bill and the airlines and telephony people are hoping to have such technology available within planes in 2006.

Go figure.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 02:17 AM
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4. Unfortunately, this thread is probably going to be yanked into the
Edited on Thu Apr-07-05 02:24 AM by Nothing Without Hope
9/11 group where it cannot be seen on the Forums page. That's what happened yesterday with this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x36365
Title: "The Great Conspiracy The 9/11 News Special You Never Saw"

Will we ever know what really happened? What is tinfoilhattery and what is a line of evidence that will lead to the truth? I don't see how we can sort that out without following the lines to the ends.

Edited to add: this current thread is on the same project as the one that got isolated in the 9/11 forum yesterday: The Great Conspiracy: The 9/11 News Special You Never Saw. The web pages cited have different content, but both of them refer to this project. The emphasis is on the written version in the earlier thread, while the current thread is on a production. So they're not duplicates, but complementary.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 06:13 AM
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8. Why is that unfortunate?
Is it not enough for an entire forum to be dedicated to your particular issue?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 07:17 AM
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9. I would say it's unfortunate because
many of us who don't go for the wild-eyed theories do have some misgivings about the "official story". Since I don't go for some of the more out-there theories, I don't go to the Sept 11 forum and I very much find this article interesting.

I would never have seen it if it didn't end up on the Greatest Page.

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satya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 02:51 AM
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5. Kick. n/t
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 03:29 AM
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6. Interesting article...
...but many Americans have been successfully programmed to look the other way and 'move on' when it comes to issues that may endanger this presidency.

Republicans certainly don't want this investigated because the implication is that their party isn't that great on national security issues afterall. I'm still trying to figure out why the Democrats seem to feel the same way about it.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 03:56 AM
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7. Thanks good article good enough to rec
Wish it had mentioned that while the actual hijacking was occurring
VP Cheney was running a simulated terrorist attack event from the situation room of the White house that involved terrorists hijacking planes & inserting false blips/inserts on radar screens.




I said, "On 9-11 there were multiple exercises going on involving NORAD, the FAA, the CIA, involving a drill simulating a plane crash into a building, a live fly hijacking drill, inserting false blips/inserts on radar screens. Were you unaware of those drills? Who was coordinating them from the White House? Bush gave Cheney authorization in May 2001 to co-ordinate counter-terrorism responses over multiple agencies. Was he in charge?

He denied that there were multiple exercises. He claimed that he was in charge when he arrived at the White House. He said that the May 8th order was for Cheney to "oversee" not coordinate.

"But you didn't get there until 9:03, according to your book," I said, "What about before then, they knew about the hijackings at 8:20."

Clarke, "Read the 9-11 Commission Report."

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:2s-gM9WGZqgJ:seattlepi.nwsource.com/forum/boards/viewtopic.asp%3Ftopicid%3D55913+VP+Cheney+was+running+a+simulated+terrorist+attack+event+from+the+situation+room+of+the+White+house+that+involved+terrorists+hijacking+planes.+&hl=en
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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 10:34 AM
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10. good for beginners
Thanks for posting this.

It's a good article to give to folks who roll their eyes when you bring up problems with official line on 911. I'm gonna send it around.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 01:19 PM
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11. MLK said "Justice rides a slow horse." The truth will come out -
but I fear people will be too afraid to believe it.
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 03:05 AM
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12. The truth will come out eventually...
Although Ruppert bristles at the "conspiracy theorist" label, his theories about what happened on 9/11 can get pretty elaborate and hard to believe. He has argued that some of the planes were actually remote- controlled from Building 7, which was then demolished to destroy the evidence. He claims that a missile was actually what hit the Pentagon, while Flight 77 was secretly diverted to an evacuated airport in Cleveland, that the Twin Towers were felled by planned explosive demolitions and that they were likely looted of gold and other valuables first, and that the entire plot involved less than two dozen people.


Take this statement for example. Somehow this kind of scenario sounds many more times plausible then the official reading, however it means that it was a setup and therefore people will find that very hard to believe.

"Remote-controlled flying". I think that this is still the most likely option given the passengerlists without any hijackers on it and the fact that finding TWO very good pilots who want to go on a suicide mission is incredibly hard and remote-controlled flying is technically possible, makes this the most likely option especially since it can be done in total secrecy and with deadly accuracy.

"Building 7". That building doesn't make sense at all. It was removed for a reason.

"Pentagon missle". Somehow that part makes more sense even though there are eyewitnesses and some aircraft parts found.

"Flight 77". Dunno.

"Twin Towers demolishion". Also makes sense since they are the only skycrapers to fall from a fire EVER and it explains the seismological activity found at the point of falling.

"Looted". Dunno.

"Less than two dozen people". Definitely, because you don't want too many people in on it. Rumsfeld has made some suspicious remarks over the years so he could have been in on it. Somehow I doubt whether * knew, because he reacted very ignorant and stupid - then again he always does. But the number of people knowing the grand plan is very small.

In conclusion: I don't know whether this theory is the truth but I agree with the writer for 5 out of 7 points which is a lot more then the official reading.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 08:21 PM
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13. Yes this is a nice article
Especially:

"Yet The 9/11 Commission Report wasn't really intended to be an investigation as much as it was meant to bring closure to this terrible period, to reassure everyone that the system worked, that problems were being fixed, and that everyone was going to be OK. And in that respect, it was a phenomenal success."

Ah truth..so dangerous.

I'm thrilled DU has a 9/11 forum with the lauded and respected Paul Thompson participating. I too wish, though, that some others would realize this isn't a "fringe movement" but the whole ball of wax.

I'm convinced the key to bringing BushCo down is 9/11-because it's all they've ever had. Fear and distraction and lies because of 9/11. Iraq because of 9/11. Media cowtowing because of 9/11. It is dangerous which is why those that doubt are marginalized.

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