911 and coincidence

[John Doe II]

Many events surrounding 911 that are supposed to have happened are strange coincidences. The idea of this thread is to collect them.
To start the list:
The C-130 that saw the attack on the Pentagon and then saw the smoke of the crash in Shanksville, too.

[k-robjoe]

1. Ptech

being in the "basement" of the FAA for two years prior to 911. And dealing with communications in an emergency.

Robert Wrights investigation into this being shut down.

[Borg]

14. Two more coincidences:

The former FBI investigator and Bin Laden specialist O'Neill starts at 9-11 2001 his new job as a security manager at WTC.
coincidence.

The new leader of the FBI, Mr. Mueller III and his team begins his job one week before 9-11:
coincidence.

[Frederik]

19. Not only that

Who gets O'Neill this new job? Jerry Hauer, of Kroll associates, a company known to be a CIA front company. And who buys the German company Convar GmbH and shuts down their investigation of WTC hard drives thought to reveal information about the unusually high number of financial transactions that went through WTC computers immediately before and during the attack? Why, Kroll associates of course. So many coincidences, so little time.

[MrSammo1]

2. Since

there is no such thing as coincidence.........more than a few alarm bells should have gone off?
Lucky for the neo-cons..... people will believe most anything.

[Ferry Fey]

3. Goldfinger

"Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action." -- Auric Goldfinger

[John Doe II]

4. Indeed

And that's exactly why I think it would be fun to list all coincindences surrounding 911 that are supposed to have happened.

[John Doe II]

5. The hijacker's letters

A letter of the hijacker was found in Atta's bag, in the vehicle in Dulles airport and at the crash site in Shanksville. Based on this Ashcroft could say:
These three documents, this letter, is clear evidence
linking the hijackers on the three separate flights on September 11th.
http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/sept_11/doj_brief011.htm

I can only say:
How conveient this coincidence!

[spooked911]

9. That is incredibly convenient. Miraculous they found the letter at Shanks

Shanksville.

It's also funny in that articel how Ashcroft says:
"ATTY GEN. ASHCROFT: We have not sought extradition of any individuals in regard to this particular attack on the United States to date."

Why not? Did they ever do any extradition of anyone relating to 9/11????? I don't remember hearing about it. But that is strange there is not one foreigner connected to 9/11 they wanted to bring to trial.

I guess they just wanted to take any suspects into secret custody and torture them.

[John Doe II]

6. Further coincidences

Atta spend a night on September 7 close to the hotel Bush would stay on September 10.
Coincidence.

The NRO was running cloe to Dulles Airport a simulation of a plane striking a building on September 11.
Coincidence.

Rumsfeld admitting that $ 2.3 tril are unaccounted for in the Pentagon.
He did this on September 10. Due to 911 it didn't really make it into the news.
Coincidence.

The Pentagon video not showing the moment where the plane hits the building.
Coincidence.

[Borg]

7. Don´t forget

the drill that happened at Johnstown - and the last phone call of Edward Felt from Johnstown !

[spooked911]

8. What is the consensus on the Felt call anyway?

Was his call real or fake? How come no one else on flight 93 mentioned damage to the plane like Felt?

Welcome to DU, by the way!

[Borg]

10. the answer is the number: 911

Edward Felts call was the only one which was an emergency call. He needed professional help. The other calling passengers had nothing to say - so they talked only.

He gave us some information:
* his location (by using 911).
* the tail number of the plane (this is incredible, he has seen the plane from outside !)
* no information about the hijacker and the hijacking.

I have the vague idea, that the Felt call was not a fake. The story which is told sounds like a hidden or mutilated message.

[spooked911]

11. I agree that his call probably was not fake. But how would he know

the tail number? That is weird.

Were the other passenger's calls fakes? Were they doing a hijacking drill? Was it some staged scene?

I mean something is really wrong here but I can't figure it out.

[John Doe II]

13. Details on Felt's call

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x23179
Look at post 6 and 14.

[John Doe II]

12. And four more

1. 911 is the first day "bomb-sniffing dogs were abruptly removed" from the WTC.
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-nyaler122362178sep12,0,1255660.story

2. 911 is the first day of Bill Sliney as FAA's National Operation Manager

3. "The three men who have been most identified with advocacy of the US Space Force are also the three figures who would have been most directly involved in promulgating and overseeing a "stand down" order on 9/11, if such was given." The three men are: Rumsfeld, Myers and Eberhart. Both Rumsfeld and Myers somehow are absent on 911 till 10:30. (Griffin: New Pearl Harbour)

4. "A FedEx bill is found in a trash can at the Comfort Inn in Portland, Maine, where Atta stayed the night before 9/11. The bill leads to Dubai, United Arab Emirates, allowing investigators to determine most of the funding for 9/11" (Paul Thomson: Terror Timeline, 491)

[tofubo]

15. did ya ever...

read the (http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/spaceintro.pdf), submitted to the president january 11, 2001 ??

if ya ever wanted to stage a full scale attack against the united states, the best place to find out it's weaknesses is to head a commission to find out those weaknesses

look at page 16 (of 69) for its mandate:

The mandate is as follows:
“The Commission shall, concerning changes to be implemented over
the near-term, medium-term and long-term that would strengthen
United States national security, assess the following:
(1) The manner in which military space assets may be exploited to
provide support for United States military operations.
(2) The current interagency coordination process regarding the
operation of national security space assets, including
identification of interoperability and communications issues.
(3) The relationship between the intelligence and nonintelligence
aspects of national security space…and the potential costs and
benefits of a partial or complete merger of the programs,
projects, or activities that are differentiated by those two aspects.
(4) The manner in which....

look at page 23 for the executive summary:

An attack on elements of U.S. space systems during a crisis or conflict should not be considered an improbable act. If the U.S. is to avoid a “Space Pearl Harbor” it needs to take seriously the possibility of an attack on U.S.

(sound familiar ??)

some of the people on board this were:
William R. Graham, Jr, science adviser to president and & director, Council on Foreign Relations
Charles A. Horner, former associate director, u.s. information agency, Center for Security Policy
Thomas S. Moorman, Jr., aerospace corporation, board of trustees, Council for National Policy
General Ronald R. Fogleman, us air rorce (Retired), Council on Foreign Relations
and Donald H. Rumsfeld, Project for the New American Century (Founding member)

Core Staff of the Commission:
Dr. Stephen A. Cambone, (he got promoted recently, didn't he ??)

look at page 36 for what the commission asked to have done:

Transform U.S. Military Capabilities
Strengthen Intelligence Capabilities
Shape the International Legal and Regulatory Environment
Advance U.S. Technological Leadership
Create and Sustain a Cadre of Space Professionals

(snip)

The current ASD (C3I) organization suffers from three difficulties:
• The span of control is so broad that only the most pressing issues are attended to and space matters are left, on a day-to-day basis, in the hands of middle-level officials without sufficient influence within the Department and the interagency arena.
• Its influence on the planning, programming and budgeting process for space is too far removed or too late to have substantial effect on
either the Services’ or the Intelligence Community’s processes.
• Within this structure it is not possible for senior officials outside DoD to identify a single, high-level individual who has the authority to represent the Department on space-related matters.

did we have (in may 2001 when cheney was supposedly put in charge of FEMA) a single, high-level individual who has the authority to represent the Department on those related matters ??

[spooked911]

16. Naval Officer, Bernard Brown and his son on flight 77

Naval Officer, Bernard Brown had a conversation with his son about not being afraid of dying just before he put him on Flight 77, the plane that crashed into the Pentagon. Had Bernard Brown been at work that day he would have been killed as the plane carrying his son crashed into his office at the Pentagon . Luckily he had taken a rare day off to play golf.

Other 9/11 coincidences here:

http://the-movement.com/menu/weird_coincidences.htm

[sabra]

17. That the date was 911....

[Borg]

18. Pearl Harbor

The perfomance act of the film "Pearl Harbor" happened in the summer 2001. I´m not sure it could have been July or August.