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k-robjoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 08:08 AM
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Interview with rescue worker
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k-robjoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 09:46 AM
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1. Looks like
the site is down for the moment.

Here is an excerpt :

"A.J: I want to repeat all of this. Because yeah, they said they found a ring that was the hijacker`s. They found, not one, but two passports.

M.T: And they were side by side.

A.J: Later it turns out that they were fakes and the government just dropped the story.(...)"

I haven´t heard about this. This is obviously about two passports that were found in the ruins. (Not the one that was found out on the street.)

More about those two passports :

" A.J: So what were people saying when they were on the news saying, We found a ring with blood on it. It´s the hijackers. We found two passports. What were people saying at the bars?

M.T: They were aghast. To tell you the truth, there were a lot of people who were really ready to quit their jobs and walk away.(...)"
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k-robjoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 11:16 AM
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2. The site
seems to be OK again. So I´ll add another new item from there :

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2005/180305groundzero.htm

It is a twenty minute clip from the new documentary from Alex Jones.

Most of it is well known to people reading this. ( And - (ofcourse) there are things there that are not correct. For the debunkers to debunk. ) But one thing that was new to me, is that he has a clip of a building being demolished that has exactly the same "kink" as it is falling down as WTC7 had. It really hits you when you see it.

And he has a very good sequence about how buildings that were closer to the towers did not collapse, while WTC7 coincidentally came to collapse.

Also I noticed this : "We have the New York fire department telling AP reporters, "Get back, we´re going to pull it." "
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 02:29 PM
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4. It's a pretty good film overall-- they do a good job with the
famous "pull-it" remark by Silverstein, showing that he probably meant demolish.

The bit about the kink in WTC7 is good too.

Thanks for the link.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:18 PM
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9. I noticed this too. I get upset though because Alex will say things
like this and never sources them. Does anyone have any AP articles from September 11 or 12 that might back this up? This is Very Important if true.
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 02:03 PM
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3. Interesting interview. He clearly confirms they found the
black boxes at ground zero.

It seems like many people who worked at Ground Zero know a lot of secrets about 9/11 but most are being forced to be quiet. If only someone could get all their stories....
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 02:35 PM
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5. does he?
I find no mention of black boxes in this interview.

You may be thinking of the matter with Mike Bellone, here:

summeroftruth.org/groundzero.html

but Tartaglia says a lot of interesting things.

The govt never claimed to my knowledge to have found 2 passports at GZ. There is a persistent error that it was Atta's, in fact it was Satam Suqami's that they claimed to have found, and at some point people seeing the latter name thought it meant two discoveries have been claimed, hence 2 passports (the govt claims finding Jarrah's pp at Shanksville, adding to the confusion).

At any rate, one or two, the magic passport was my passport to skepticism too.
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drdtroit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:53 PM
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6. Yes, he does.
from the transcript:

"AJ: That three of them had been found. They were loaded on four-wheelers and then the FBI said shut your mouth. What do you know about that?

MT: I believe that, first of all my understanding about those recorders, when they were found, they were in pretty good shape for what they had supposedly been through.

AJ: Yeah, that’s what they said.

MT: Number two, one of the big problems was, is that they were trying to say that they found those boxes on three different occasions. Not just three boxes, but three different occasions, all of the boxes were found. So, in my opinion about that is that they are trying to disqualify what these highly decorated and honest people said. We found the box. The reason why they are trying to disqualify them is because they wanted to have the boxes longer so they could, “edit what they needed out for national security.” I guess that must have been the remote control buttons going off and on – because I can’t imagine what would be national security to not let us know and have a little sense of peace, what really happened."
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 10:40 PM
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7. Wow, what a goldmine of information!
Edited on Thu Mar-31-05 10:42 PM by Dancing_Dave
What a great witness Alex found here!

This is one really significant passage:


AJ: Exactly. So, how did we get then these white hot fires that were still burning weeks later?

MT: Some people call them subatomic nuclear controlled explosions. Some people call them tactical nukes.

AJ: Well the question is, we have the thermal photos. How do you weeks later have stuff burning in molten down in there?

MT: There’s only one way. There had to be a combination of some very high powerful stuff and when that stuff all closed in on itself, it just burned and burned. Because it was burning. I mean that is not a lie or something like that, that smoke came out and it burned like crazy. It was unreal, that fire.

AJ: I want to talk about the health problems you and others have had. It’s admitted, they call it the WTC cough.

MT: Yeah

AJ: A lot of people have died from it and the government says, shut up - you’re not getting anything.


Of course, you won't hear the NIST talking about any of this because their job is not to get to the bottom of what really happened, but to cover it up.

Somebody else will have to figure out what burns in molten metal down where there isn't free oxygen for a regular fire.

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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:17 AM
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8. No just the rescue workers and clean-up crews
Asthma and respiratory problems have increased in residents of people who live in downtown Manhattan. As I understand, even pets have had increased health problems too.

http://www.asthmamoms.com/worldtradecenter2004.htm

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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 09:15 AM
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10. philly paper
william bunch -- who has done some excellent mainstream 9/11 articles -- wrote about two workers who found black boxes at the wtc. the article was published in the philadelphia daily news last fall.

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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:48 AM
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11. This article is pretty detailed about their being found.
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 06:19 PM
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12. This great interview could be a positive turning point.
We really need to break the cover-up right in New York where the disaster was most deadly, and this is a big step in the right direction. We need more of these "inside sources" who have been threatened and abandoned in the cover-up, to bravely come out with such revelations!
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k-robjoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 02:51 PM
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13. New (?) site
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k-robjoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 04:26 PM
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14. campaign?
A guy over at Letsroll posted about receiving this mail :

"Thank you for offering to volunteer with the Reopen 9/11 movement.
During the next few weeks we will be sending out steps to organize this movement coinciding with the release of the DVD, "Confronting the Evidence: A Call to Reopen the 9/11 Investigation." Everyone who signed up as a volunteer will receive 5 copies, yours are on the way to you right now.(...)"

http://letsroll911.org/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=6448
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