HS Thompson -evidence for WTC explosives -"They're gonna make it look like

[Al-CIAda]

HS Thompson -evidence for WTC explosives
Alexander Pope in a prose convertible
By PAUL WILLIAM ROBERTS
Saturday, February 26, 2005, Page F9

Hunter telephoned me on Feb. 19, the night before his death. He sounded scared. It wasn't always easy to understand what he said, particularly over the phone, he mumbled, yet when there was something he really wanted you to understand, you did. He'd been working on a story about the World Trade Center attacks and had stumbled across what he felt was hard evidence showing the towers had been brought down not by the airplanes that flew into them but by explosive charges set off in their foundations. Now he thought someone was out to stop him publishing it: "They're gonna make it look like suicide," he said. "I know how these bastards think . . ."


http://tinyurl.com/6977m

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http://physics911.ca/modules/weblog/details.php?blog_id=53

[Junkdrawer]

1. Anyone got a password for this site?

I'd really like to read this one!

[Junkdrawer]

13. As suspected, the "teaser" paragraph was fiction:

I am posting the opening two paragraphs below, because the link will only take you to the first paragraph; to read beyond that paragraph, you have to register and pay. It is important that you at least read the second paragraph, because in that paragraph Roberts confesses that the first paragraph is partly fiction. There was no such telephone conversation, he says, but it is true that Thompson was writing a story on 9/11. Roberts then goes on to support the suicide version of Thompson’s death:
..............
Hunter telephoned me on Feb. 19, the night before his death. He sounded scared. It wasn't always easy to understand what he said, particularly over the phone, he mumbled, yet when there was something he really wanted you to understand, you did. He'd been working on a story about the World Trade Center attacks and had stumbled across what he felt was hard evidence showing the towers had been brought down not by the airplanes that flew into them but by explosive charges set off in their foundations. Now he thought someone was out to stop him publishing it: "They're gonna make it look like suicide," he said. "I know how these bastards."

That's how I imagine a tribute to Hunter S. Thompson should begin. He was indeed working on such a story, but it wasn't what killed him. He exercised his own option to do that. As he said to more than one person, "I would feel real trapped in this life if I didn't know I could commit suicide at any time."


http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum/read.php?f=4&i=822&t=822

[BlueEyedSon]

2. Total BS. Lets concentrate on the PDB, warnings and alleged war games

[Ashamed_American]

3. I'm not buying it.

I've long dismissed any 'explosive' theory in the WTC. Of course this conversation may have indeed taken place, with Hunter already planning his suicide. I still haven't completely gotten over the fact that he is gone, but he went out the way that makes sense for him. Not me, but he accomplished all he felt he could in life. He felt his time was over. Selfish bastard. I hate being pissed at my favorite author, but anger has come strong to overtake the sadness.


www.BlackEyedSundays.com

[Al-CIAda]

4. Hunter S. Thompson on Bush and 9/11

mp3 audio-
http://www.indybay.org/uploads/hunter_thompson_aug29_2002.mp3

[Earth_First]

10. Great interview...

thanks for the link!

[Ian David]

5. Debunking the September 11th Myths

Widespread Damage
CLAIM:The first hijacked plane crashed through the 94th to the 98th floors of the World Trade Center's 110-story North Tower; the second jet slammed into the 78th to the 84th floors of the 110-story South Tower. The impact and ensuing fires disrupted elevator service in both buildings. Plus, the lobbies of both buildings were visibly damaged before the towers collapsed. "There is NO WAY the impact of the jet caused such widespread damage 80 stories below," claims a posting on the San Diego Independent Media Center Web site (sandiego.indymedia.org). "It is OBVIOUS and irrefutable that OTHER EXPLOSIVES (... such as concussion bombs) HAD ALREADY BEEN DETONATED in the lower levels of tower one at the same time as the plane crash."

FACT: Following up on a May 2002 preliminary report by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), a major study will be released in spring 2005 by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), a branch of the U.S. Department of Commerce. NIST shared its initial findings with PM and made its lead researcher available to our team of reporters.

The NIST investigation revealed that plane debris sliced through the utility shafts at the North Tower's core, creating a conduit for burning jet fuel--and fiery destruction throughout the building. "It's very hard to document where the fuel went," says Forman Williams, a NIST adviser and a combustion expert, "but if it's atomized and combustible and gets to an ignition source, it'll go off."

Burning fuel traveling down the elevator shafts would have disrupted the elevator systems and caused extensive damage to the lobbies. NIST heard first-person testimony that "some elevators slammed right down" to the ground floor. "The doors cracked open on the lobby floor and flames came out and people died," says James Quintiere, an engineering professor at the University of Maryland and a NIST adviser. A similar observation was made in the French documentary "9/11," by Jules and Gedeon Naudet. As Jules Naudet entered the North Tower lobby, minutes after the first aircraft struck, he saw victims on fire, a scene he found too horrific to film.


More:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html?page=2&c=y

[Al-CIAda]

6. de-construction, and de-molition of the PM article-

The latest installment of the sustained Post-Event Propaganda Follow-On
to the Psychological/Political Warfare Operation called "The Terror
Event of September 11, 2001" is an article in the current issue of the
magazine POPULAR MECHANICS (PM) entitled "9/11: Debunking The Myths."

The following URL contains both the PM on-line article and a
line-by-line, item-by-item review, analysis, critique, criticism,
de-construction, and de-molition of the PM article:

http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pm/index.html

[Ian David]

11. I put the odds of this theory being true at about 5%

My current personal ratings of various theories (In order of how likely I think they are):

Bush lied about WMD's and terrorists in Iraq- 100%
Bush could have prevented 9-11 if he'd wanted to- 100%
Bush knew all of the Jeff Gannon story in advance- 99.5%
Bush knew about 9-11 and allowed it to happen- 95%
Bush was wired during the debate- 85%
George Bush thinks he is The Antichrist- 51%
George Bush thinks he is The Messiah- 50%
Bush aided and abetted in planning 9-11- 49%
Wellstone was assassinated- 31%
Bush arranged "man-dates" with Jeff Gannon for VIP's- 30%
Bush was in the same room while Jeff Gannon had sex- 25%
WTC-7 was detonated from within- 15%
Flight 93 was shot-down- 10%
Bush has had sexual relations with Jeff Gannon- 5%
There were explosives in the main towers of the WTC- 2%
Bush is actually a cyborg from the future- 0.00000000001%
No planes hit The Pentagon- 0.0000000000000001%
The 9-11 planes were "remotely piloted"- 0.000000000000000001%
Both the 2000 and 2004 elections were fair- 0.0000000000000000000001%

[spooked911]

26. Nice set of odds there! I did something similar on my blog a little while

back. I think most of your odds are reasonable except I would put the odds for explosives in WTC much higher!

[leesa]

9. Of course this does not jive with what the firefighters were saying

and the pictures of people standing in the building at the crash site without any fire around them at all. I don't think a FEMA report is to be trusted.

[dbt]

7. Welcome to bu$h-O-Murka,

the place where the Government will tell you the sky is blue, but you are forced to go look for yourself before you can agree. The place where each and every "conspiracy theory" contains just enough truth that it warrants discussion--thereby sufficiently misdirecting public attention from (ahem) the real conspiracies.

Rest in Peace, Dr. Thompson.

[Domitan]

8. Strange

The Globe and Mail is a very credible newspaper piece, Canada's answer to NYT and Washington Post. Very curious that they would include such a piece.

[leveymg]

12. This is like the Kennedy Assassination - so many conflicting theories

that they cancel out the truth. Even the larger truths.

I got this from a friend this morning: "This weekend I read that Hunter S. Thompson may have been offed for writing an expose on the Lawrence King Pedophile Ring and other sexual shenanigans on both sides of the aisle."

Found the following weirdness at the blog Rigorous Intuition for Sunday, February 20, 2005:
rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/ 2005/02/crazy-yes-but-crazy-enough-to-be-true.html

NOTE: That blog cites a near-contemporaneous string at DU:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3144209&mesg_id=3150637&page=

Also cites a related site: http://tinyurl.com/67c46

The subject matter is so disturbing that I'm reluctant to repost it. But, who knows? Is this why HST was snuffed? Was it some 9/11 plot? Or, was Hunter just a sick bastard playing mind games with a lot of people?

Read it and wonder.

<SNIP>

Anonymous said...
These people are certainly curious:

Paul and Shirley Eberle: A Strange Pair of Experts

by Maria Laurina

Paul and Shirley Eberle wrote The Politics of Child Abuse, a book that accuses mothers, mental health professionals, and prosecutors of feeding children stories about sexual abuse. Since the book was published by Lyle Stuart in l986, the Eberles have been cited as experts in sexual abuse trials. They were featured speakers at a conference of the Victims of Child Abuse Laws, a group formed to protect accused parents.

What is startling about the Eberles' reputation as ground-breaking experts in the field is that their dubious credentials have not been widely challenged. Paul and Shirley Eberle edit a soft-core magazine in California called the L.A. Star that contains a mixture of nude photos, celebrity gossip, telephone sex ads, and promos for The Politics of Child Abuse.

http://tinyurl.com/67c46

3:50 AM
Anonymous said...
The Plot Thickens:

Noreen Gosch believes high-level govt to be involved in the porn ring which kidnapped her son. Check this quote from a ronald reagan campaign speech in iowa of 1984:

"There've been two tragedies in Iowa that have saddened us all. In 1982, young Johnny Gosch disappeared while delivering newspapers on his morning route in Des Moines. Then, just 6 weeks ago, another newspaper boy, Eugene Martin, also disappeared.

Well, I want you to know that I've spoken with Jim Gannon, the editor of the Des Moines Register. We've pledged our full support in the search for these two boys."



http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/resource/speeches/1984/92084b.htm

4:46 AM
Anonymous said...
"In the 1980s, Paul , with his wife Shirley, wrote "The Politics of Child Abuse," an examination of the industry that evolved around the court-lawyer-children's services agencies and other participants that led to a massive increase in unfair charges of sexual abuse and the conversion of our traditional principle of innocent until proven guilty to one in which merely being charged with abuse is assumed to be a conviction."

"Then the McMartin Preschool case happened. Eight years were spent harassing the owners of the McMartin Preschool in southern California, with false and trumped-up charges, each one more outrageous than the last. The final end of the case was a dropping of most charges against all participants, then a hung jury on the few remaining. Lives were ruined and millions wasted on court and lawyer fees. Paul and Shirley chronicled this mess in "The Abuse of Innocence" (Prometheus Books, ISBN 0-87975-809-0), still in print and highly recommended. Publisher's Weekly says, "Trial testimony, juicy courthouse asides, and the authors' keen descriptive powers make the proceedings come alive."

"If you have any interest in witch hunts, abuse of power by governments, child abuse or related topics, you really want to read this book.


http://www.moonmac.com/About_Paul.html



"What is startling about the Eberles' reputation as ground-breaking experts in the field is that their dubious credentials have not been widely challenged. Paul and Shirley Eberle edit a soft-core magazine in California called the L.A. Star that contains a mixture of nude photos, celebrity gossip, telephone sex ads, and promos for The Politics of Child Abuse.

"In the 1970's, however, the Eberles were also publishing hard-core pornography. Their publication, Finger, depicted scenes of bondage, S & M, and sexual activities involving urination and defecation. A young girl portrayed with a wide smile on her face sits on top of a man whose penis is inside of her; a woman has oral sex with a young boy in a drawing entitled "Memories of My Boyhood."

"The Eberles were featured nude on one cover holding two life-size blow up dolls names "Love Girl" and "Play Guy." No dates appear on the issues and the Eberles rarely attach their names, referring to themselves as "The L.A. Star Family."

http://tinyurl.com/67c46

6:02 AM
Anonymous said...
And what relation are Paul and Shirley Eberle to the GOPUSA and Talon News owner Bobby Eberle?

7:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Anonymous One,if I recall,Paul Bonacci stated,one of the people at the Bohemian Grove was Hunter S.Thompson.It is a little strange that I read this Friday, and now he just happens to end up like all the others that know to much.What does shit sound like when it hits a big fan?later.

12:02 PM
Anonymous said...
Do you have a link for the Paul Bonacci quote? I wold love to see that.

12:28 PM
Anonymous said...
Alright, what background checks are being done by bloggers (I've given up on other mudrakers) on finding Mr. White House Press Pin-up's background? He must have a CV floating around somewhere? Hometown; high school, hs friends who remember him; grocery store he worked at...something.

My gut is there is no there there, that he is, well, what we are beginning to suspect.

Somebody bell this cat!

Please!

1:07 PM
Anonymous said...
Paul Bonacci is an admitted heroin addict. He admits to it openly on camera. I imagine he's willing to tell any kind of story imaginable as long as it helps pay for his habit...

1:18 PM
Jeff said...
Of course he is. Making him drug dependent was part of his abuse. And inspite of being a junkie, Bonacci won a $1 million civil suit against King several years ago.

1:23 PM

[seemslikeadream]

14. That's Minstrel Boy's blog

Excellent!

[kk897]

19. Rigorous Intuition is a regular DU poster

and contributed to the thread he cites in his blog. Just for the record.

[JerseygirlCT]

15. Wasn't this an imaginative conjecture on the part of the author?

I remember reading more and realizing he was speculating about the sort of thing Thompson might have done.

Throwing these things out as facts only undermines our credibility.

[leveymg]

16. Deleted by author

[Teaser]

17. Thompson did this all the time.

He's make up phone conversations as part of his writing, putting outrageous statements in his interlocutors mouth. The author of this piece is following in this tradition.

[leveymg]

18. Disinformation. That was a low trick, Al-CIAda.

Thanks for wasting our time.

[Al-CIAda]

21. Not meant as a trick- or to 'waste our time'

If you listen to Thompson HIMSELF being interviewed (mp3 link I posted), one could see this as an interesting article. I came across the article and posted it. No 'trickery' or ill intent involved.

Judge as you see fit.

[Minstrel Boy]

22. No - you need to read the second paragraph.

It's not available free online, but this is it:

"That's how I imagine a tribute to Hunter S. Thompson should begin. He was indeed working on such a story, but it wasn't what killed him. He exercised his own option to do that. As he said to more than one person, 'I would feel real trapped in this life if I didn't know I could commit suicide at any time.'"

I quote it in this blog entry:
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005/03/going-got-weird.html

Paul William Roberts does go a little gonzo in the first paragraph. It's more evident in the print version, because it's all italic. But he does affirm, in the second, that Thompson was working on a story about WTC demolition.

[JunkYardDogg]

20. Hunter's Son was in da House at the time

This article is some Bad Weirdness
The Writer ate too many of Raul's Vodka Injected Oranges
and took too much Acid

[RBHam]

23. Hunter Thompson was working on WTC collapse story

http://www.total911.info/

[vincent_vega_lives]

24. If someone would go thru the trouble of using a silencer

Now check out this February 25 Associated Press story about Thompson's death. Sounds a lot like a professional hit with a silencer:

WHY wouldn't they wait until he was at least off the phone???

and if they wanted to make it look like it was a suicide, why use a silencer???

[spooked911]

25. Oh my god-- VVL: are you promoting some kind of conspiracy here?

[vincent_vega_lives]

27. Nope

Nah'tat'tal. Quite the contrary spooky. Guy offed himself. Leave the poor bloke be.

[spooked911]

28. Sorry, misread you then.

But the details of the shooting are sort of strange.