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mirror Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 07:59 PM
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EXCELLENT PICS WHICH IVE NOT SEEN ANYWHERE!!!!!!
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:19 PM
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1. Those are EXCELLENT photos!
A great find!
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mirror Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:22 AM
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2. i agree with you
maybe some use could be made of them.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 06:09 AM
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3. Anyone see an airliner blackbox around here?
No. We haven't. But look here. We got some hijacker ID. :eyes:
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 09:17 PM
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4. kick
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 11:47 PM
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5. Those are incredible. Thanks!
Those are so much more real and honest looking than the photos I've seen of the WTC debris previously.
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 12:40 AM
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6. Cool Dude!
What a great New Yorker to waltz right in there and take these revealing photos. It's no wonder the officials didn't want us to see them, because they show how the official story is such a crock of sh*t!

You can see how the WTC buildings were really blown to smithereens right where they were. You can compare them to buildings that were bombed and nothing else, because only high explosives can do this to a building. Compare it to shots of buildings bombed in WWII, in Dresden, London, Hiroshima, etc.

You might be interested in this Finnish explosives experts analysis of some of the types of explosives most likely to have been used in demolishing the WTC:
http://members.surfeu.fi/11syyskuu/soldier5.htm

It's amazing that guys like Cheney, Rumsfeld and Larry Silverstein really thought that they could cover something like this up. Their arrogance knows no bounds...and they built their careers on the old American saying THERE'S A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUITE!
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 08:20 AM
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7. ten million+ degrees
From http://members.surfeu.fi/11syyskuu/soldier5.htm:

<snip>

More challenging problem to the demolition men than the outer structure is the central core of the building with its 47 steel pillars far stronger than those in outer walls. Thos pillars were made from steel even 100 + 100 mm thick in the cellar, that is thicker than the side armour of a battle tank. Cutting those, even with explosives is extremely difficult. One should surround the whole pillar with strong cutting charges, meaning every single pillar on every floor intended to get blasted. These charges should be placed in such a way that the users of skyscrapers would not attend these preparations of mass murder.

As seen in the following pictures, the core of the towers were not distracted by thousands of strong cutting charges, but by a modern thermonuclear explosive, a mini hydrogen bomb. In the picture down below, a hydrogen bomb explosion, placed in the cellar and directed to the core, has reached the roof of the tower and upper parts of the outer walls. In its way upwards the heat and pressure waves partially penetrated about 100 floors of concrete and steel. Ten million+ degrees of heat from a hydrogen bomb sublimised all water within concrete in a moment. Water exploded momentary into 24-fold volume and totally pulverized the concrete. Even people and computers that were there disappeared into heath and light, that is why almost nothing of them was foud in the ruins.

Burning radiation is absorbed in steel so quickly that steel heats up immediately over its melting point 1585 C and above its boiling point around 3000 C. In pictures down below super hot groups of steel pillars and columns, torn from wall by pressure wave, are sublimized. They change from solid immediately to a vaporized form binding heat as quickly as possible. Even bursts upwards are visible in the picture below, not possible for a gravitational collapse or for cutting charges which are used horizontally.

</snip>

members.surfeu.fi/11syyskuu/w.JPG


  • Why didn't this "mini hydrogen bomb" in the basement destroy the slurry wall of the WTC site and allow water from the Hudson River to flood the site?
  • How come no one has measured the radioactivity levels at ground zero to prove this theory and let the world know of the incontrovertible evidence they have discovered about the truth of what happened that day?
  • If "burning radiation is absorbed in steel so quickly that steel heats up immediately over its melting point 1585 C and above its boiling point around 3000 C, then why was any steel at all found at the site? Surely the "ten million+ degrees of heat from a hydrogen bomb" would vaporize all the steel in the building almost instantly.
  • etc., etc., etc.

-Make7
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 12:38 PM
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8. I would rather let this Finn speak for himself...
Edited on Thu Mar-31-05 12:54 PM by Dancing_Dave
But here's some answers taking into account his perspective:

1.He assumes this thermonuclear fusion weapon is a shaped charge, with it's energy directed upward.

2.Pure fusion does not leave radioactive waste around like fission--a geiger counter wouldn't dectect it afterwards.

3.What percentage of the building material is vaporized depends on the energy of the thermal explosive relative to the mass of the building. A lot of the material of the Twin Towers was quickly pulverized to a fine dust in the air, which requires an enormous energy input.

I don't know yet exactly what high energy explosives were used to demolish the WTC on 9/11. Was this:


Done with a similar explosive as this?


Anyone can see this Finnish soldiers point.
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 09:50 AM
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9. What about your perspective?
Dancing_Dave wrote:
But here's some answers taking into account his perspective:

1.He assumes this thermonuclear fusion weapon is a shaped charge, with it's energy directed upward.

2.Pure fusion does not leave radioactive waste around like fission--a geiger counter wouldn't dectect it afterwards.

3.What percentage of the building material is vaporized depends on the energy of the thermal explosive relative to the mass of the building. A lot of the material of the Twin Towers was quickly pulverized to a fine dust in the air, which requires an enormous energy input.

  1. His assumption is incorrect, hydrogen bombs are not shaped charges in the manner he concludes that this one must have been for his theory to work. Even if it were possible for the blast to be directed upward in such a concentrated directional manner as he describes, then it would not have been able to destroy all of the core columns at the foundation because the blast was going up - not going horizontally. (Which kinda contradicts the reason he surmises for the bomb in the first place.)

  2. A hydrogen bomb is not a pure fusion device, it uses a fission bomb to produce the temperatures and compression of fusion material needed to initiate the fusion reaction. Fission bombs are highly radioactive and will leave easily measurable radioactivity.

  3. Temperatures of 100 million degrees+ do not pulverize material, they vaporize material. So what do you believe is the absolute minimum yield that is possible for a hydrogen bomb? And how much of the building would that affect?


Dancing_Dave wrote:
Anyone can see this Finnish soldiers point.

Seeing someone's point doesn't necessarily mean that it's valid.
-Make7
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