Photos of hijackers

[John Doe II]

Hi guys!
Good news!
Here's the first thread where there is no reason to fight ....!
I just propose to create a thread where everybody can insert photos of the hijackers. I heard there are basically none from their time in the US besides the official FBI photos (although one would imagine that the hijackers had several photos in their passport, driving licence etc etc).
So here you go. Just feel free to post§

[RedSock]

1. Three different pictures of Khalid Almihdhar

Three different pictures of Khalid Almihdhar. (FBI, 2/12/02, Boston Globe, 9/27/01)

(From Paul Thompson's Timeline)

[RedSock]

2. Three pictures of Majed Moqed

Three pictures of Majed Moqed.

(From Paul Thompson's Timeline)

[RedSock]

3. Salem Alhazmi

The Salem Alhazmi on the left (Saudi Gazette, 9/23/01) claims that the FBI pictures of a Salem Alhazmi such as this one on the right (FBI) are of him, from when his passport was stolen.

Saudi Gazette, 9/23/01
http://complete911timeline.org/timeline/2001/saudigazette092301.html

[LibertyorDeath]

10. There is no way the person on the far right is the person on the far left

The Ears are wrong & the mouth eyes & nose.

[John Doe II]

4. Ziad Jarrah

Here the official FBI photo :
http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/penttbom/ua93/93.htm



The photo in the Jarrah’s passport that miracously was found at the crash site of UA 93:
http://cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/main/essayjarrah.html





Here another photo used by the hijacker :
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/meast/09/18/inv.terror.jarrah/




And here the photo used in Jarrah’s visa :
http://cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/main/essayjarrah.html




All this photos have slight difference but that doesn’t matter.
More interesting is it to compare the above mentioned photos with private photos of Ziad Jarrah.


Jarrah posing for a photo :
http://fhh.hamburg.de/stadt/Aktuell/behoerden/inneres/landesamt-fuer-verfassungsschutz/archiv/archiv-2003/2terror-prozess-artikel.html




Jarrah having fun:
http://www.n-tv.de/3055120.html




Another photo:
http://www.ndrtv.de/doku/20011123_todespiloten.html




Jarrah smiling :
http://cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/main/essayjarrah.html




Another one:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nation/terror/20030507-1800-sept11-video.html




Jarrah being portraid by his landlady :
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/featurestories/jarrah_101001/story.html





Are the official and the private photos of one and the same person or are we dealing with two different Jarrahs as Paul Thomspon’s great essay suggests ?
http://cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/main/essayjarrah.html

And why does Jarrah always wear glasses on the private photos (the danicng was in January 2001)but never on the official ones.
Only exception the painting but this is easier understandable than the fact that he never wears glasses for passport etc.
I wear glasses myself and it's the normal thing to wear them also for your passport photo.
But this is just a detail. Anyone here who has no problems recognizing only one person in all theses photos?

[John Doe II]

11. Anybody

here who really believes that theses photos show one and the same person and not two DIFEFRENT ones????

[John Doe II]

18. So everybody agrees

that we are talking about two differenr Jarrahs???
And does anybody care why there are two different Jarrahs??

[Bolo Boffin]

19. Sorry to bust your consensus

That's all easily the same person.

[John Doe II]

28. Bolo

Just to understand you correctly:
Do you think that in any case the photos show the very same person (let's say even on the same day)?
Or do you think the photos show the same person but one in his younger days in Germany the above photos from the older one in the States? Or do you think that one week he looked like the first photos and the next week like the last photos and then again like the first photos?

[seatnineb]

5. Allah won't accept his sacrifice!

Since 9/11, al-cia-da have been only to happy to screen the video wills that hijackers recorded before the zero hour.....

This is Ahmed Ibrahim Al Haznawi....released in April,2002



And here he is again as shown to us by the unflappable F.B.I.....




And here is Saeed Al-Ghamdi.....released in September,2003



...and as shown by the unbeatable F.B.I.......



And last but not least ,Abdulaziz Alomari.....released in September,2002...



....and again,...as shown by the ununconquerable F.B.I



So far so good for al-cia-da's propaganda onslaught.....

Now Khalid Sheik Mohammed(9/11 mastermind) was only to kind to enlighten us in 2002(1 year before his capture) ,when he told egyptian journalist Yosri Fouda that one of the 19 brothers did not video tape his will............

Khalid informs us that the reason for this is because:
"He feared it might be hypocritical and Allah might not then accept his sacrifice"
Masterminds Of Terror.
Page 141.

Perhaps Hani Hanjour felt Allah would not accept his Pentagon smashing sacrifice after the way he transformed himself from the way the unrelenting F.B.I showed him,here:



...........and the way he appeared as he passed through Dulles to board flight 77....



I am pretty sure it could only be our Hani who failed to do a video will!

[paulthompson]

7. Great minds think alike ;)

Looks like I'm not the only person to notice how little that person looks like Hani Hanjour:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=125&topic_id=30484

[spooked911]

9. Aren't they supposed to shaved their beards?

That guy certainly looks like he has a beard. But maybe he wouldn't shave as well as do the video will.

[John Doe II]

17. Hanjour

Here two other pics:



http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/main/essaykhalidandnawaf.html





http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2001/Nov-04-Sun-2001/opinion/17360280.html

[John Doe II]

6. Abdul Rahma Al Omari

Does anybody have a photo of the guy that was considered hijacker for some days? In Portland the police was looking for witnesses using a photo of this guy yet I only find the one and only photo of Abdulaziz Al Omari (besides the one from Portland) and a photo of the Abdulaziz Al Omari still alive but none of Abdul Rahman. Can anybody help me out?

[paulthompson]

8. No

But I do have pics of the Bukharis.

[number6]

12. kick

official Government story biggest hoax ever.

[paulthompson]

13. There are a lot of interesting hijacker pictures here

if you scroll down a bit:

http://www.arbeiterfotografie.com/galerie/kein-krieg/hintergrund/index-rezension-5.html

maybe someone can link to some of them. Anyone speak German, who can help sort out who's who and what's what? :)

[John Doe II]

14. Here you go!

This homepage analyses a documentary by « Spiegel TV » from 9/11/03. In this documentary a video by al Qaeda was presented. The same video was already aired by al Jazeera in September 2002. All pics are from this video. At the bottom of the homepage you can compare the pics from the video and the official FBI pics.




Waleed Al Shehri






Abdulaziz Al Omari




Mohand Al Shehri




Hazma al Ghamdi



Ahmed Alnami





Saeed al Ghamdi

[seatnineb]

15. Great work John Doe II!

........I have the BBC report examining the video......

In the video ,Alomari.....



..........thanks Bin Laden for training him!

Just the proof that Bushco,The FBI and the CIA needed to link Afghanistan and Bin Laden to 9/11.....

How convenient!

[John Doe II]

16. Atta

Here some pics of Atta:


Atta :


http://giannidemartino.splinder.com/archive/2004-06





http://www.medienanalyse-international.de/





http://www.guerrillanews.com/forum/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=state&Number=317318&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0∂=






http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5961724



http://www.ntv.com.tr/news/107685.asp

[medienanalyse]

20. there is no proof - there is evidence enough. The contradiction.

hi all !

Yes there are different photos. There is bo proof that one person is identical with another. There is no proof of hijackers at all.

This is boringly well- known to those who want to know it.

In comparison there is proof enough that those who are real persons had doppelgangers to make them suspicious, or more suspiciuous than they were themselves.

It is not our mission to clear identities. In every judicial system those who make the claim "he is a murderer" must prove the claim himself.

We can not rule out perons with unclear identity from having been here or there. We can only (and that is enough) prove that the claims of the Bushists are wrong. This means: it is wrong to state: "hijackers alive". It is fun to say so because of the contradiction, but we get into the trap that the Bushist take a new photo, a new birtdate and so on and tell us that they point to somebody else. But to whom exactly they will never tell.

To make it short: in my book I showed that Atta went through immigration TWICE on the same day. That he was not recognized by Mrs LaConca who was his landlord on a photo the FBI showed her. His photo was not copied but destryed on the gyms PC where he trained. And so on.
Same with Hani Hanjour, who also has trhe name Hanjoor, who lived for many years in the states. Same with jarrah and so on.

The Bushists do not produce evidence although they should be easily able to do so. I.e.: the bodies. 9 are on ice and "identified" for the Pentagoncrash and UAL93, additionall the two of the WTC.
Why do the Bushist not give the bodies "back" to their families if everything is clear. Expecially the Jarrahs: they live in the Bekaa valley in Lebanon.

Why not? Because genetice evidence can be reproduced if it is evidence. The Jarrah family would easily be able to prove "this body is somebody but not Ziad". Or Ziad - but he did not die by a plane crash.

Fingerprints on the boarding passes. Videos with real proof from the airports . And so on..

They have no proof. No evidence for anything. No possibility to stand any court. That is why Moussaoui gets forgotten in his jail and why the "Germans" Motassadeq and Mzoudi got freed.

By the way the question of the missing evidence for hijackers opens for sure the question: how did they do it if not by hijackers. But to answer that is speculation. Now. And it is is NOT OUR TASK to answer "what really happened".

It is our task to tell the American people: there were no fighter jets. There is no evidence. And Rummy did NOTHING to protect America, for hours.
see www.medienanalyse-international.de/rumsfeld.html

What would we do with a firebrigade that does not come on alert, 4 times? What would we do with the firefighter no 1 if he prefers to drink coffe when it could be world-war III, a North-Korean attack, 1000 more planes in suicide mission or what else. These are the points and not "physical evidence" which is laughable like melting steel when every child knows how to bent and to break steelin room temperatire, when everybody knows that aluminium planes consist of a metall which vanishes ervery new years eve. Kerosine, rubber and plastic too. But no steel wheels. Which were found in the pentagon rubble. And bodies. Evidence enough to dismiss the conspiray theorists here.

[paulthompson]

21. Hi MA,

Long time no hear. I'm still bummed that I don't speak German and thus cannot read your book. I didn't know this part:

That he was not recognized by Mrs LaConca who was his landlord on a photo the FBI showed her. His photo was not copied but destryed on the gyms PC where he trained. And so on. Same with Hani Hanjour, who also has the name Hanjoor, who lived for many years in the states. Same with jarrah and so on.

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Can you point me to any English sources on that? By the way, the other day I did find a photo of Jarrah that's a shot of the computer screen of his gym record. It contains a picture that definitely looks like him. I can email that to you if you'd like. I don't know how to post pics here if I haven't got a weblink for them.

And did you see the other active thread about the Hani Hanjour airport video? That would obviously support your thesis.

[paulthompson]

22. Wait

Here's how one can see the Jarrah pic. Go to this address:

http://pro.corbis.com/search/searchFrame.asp

Type in jarrah and gym in the search engine, then it's one of four pics that show up. With a free and easy login first, you can remove the watermarks.

If you dig around Corbis, there's a bunch of photos of places the hijackers lived in Florida and some of their landlords and such, but no other previously unknown pics of the hijackers themselves (that I found, anyway).

[John Doe II]

25. Here you go

Two more photos.





You find them here as Paul has pointed out:

http://pro.corbis.com/search/searchFrame.asp

Just type "Jarrah" into the search engine.

[John Doe II]

24. LaConca

Yes, medienanalyse's book is a great read I found many interesting sources there.

Here what you were looking for:

The couple said the FDLE agent showed them four photographs of possible suspects in the terrorist attack.
"The first photo they showed us was the pilot who crashed into the first building," Vonnie LaConca said. "It was not Mohamed or his friend. But the last picture they showed us was very close, but I could not say 100 percent that it was him."
The FBI in Tampa would neither confirm nor deny any agents interviewing people in the North Port area.
"We recommend that you check in with CNN for current information," an FBI spokesperson only identified as "Pam" said Thursday afternoon. "Any press statements can be found on televised stations like CNN."
http://www.sun-herald.com/NewsArchive2/091401/tp4ch14.htm?date=091401&story=tp4ch14.htm


The artilce is in general very interesting:
You'll find a very handsome and polite Atta who spoke little English and then fluently, who was on drugs and parties and went out with Amanda Keller and was apparently very very rich. And he was talkative.

[medienanalyse]

26. some more Atta facts

Filipinos Recall Hijack Suspects Leading a High Life” (Don Kirk International Herald Tribune Saturday, October 6, 2001) - when Atta ought to be in Hamburg working on his university studies. http://www.hamline.edu/apakabar/basisdata/2001/10/05/0079.html

The Immigration and Naturalization Services (INS) May,20, 2002, S. 48 reports: atta got two visa in the same place on the same day. http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/doj/dojoig052002insrpt.pdf
Different appearances of „Attas“ in the days before 9/11: http://www.madcowprod.com/mc6122004.html
"The couple told the agent the man was about 5, 5 feet 10 inches, 160 pounds, had "dark, perfect" skin, and was clean cut and "very polite …"The first photo they showed us was the pilot who crashed into the first building," Vonnie LaConca said. "It was not Mohamed or his friend. But the last picture they showed us was very close, but I could not say 100 percent that it was him." ." http://www.sun-herald.com/NewsArchive2/091401/tp4ch14.htm?date=091401&...

“When we reviewed INS records, they appeared to reflect two entries by Atta into the United States on January 10, 2001, which initially raised a question as to whether Atta had entered twice on the same day or whether a second person posing as Atta also entered on January 10, 2001. The NIIS printout for the first entry reflects that Atta entered with an admission period of January 10, 2001, to September 8, 2001 (admission number 68653985708). The second record reflects a second entry on January 10, 2001, with an admission period from January 10, 2001, to July 9, 2001 (admission number 10847166009).
However, this occurred because the inspector at the Miami District Office who changed Atta’s admission date failed to follow the proper procedure to ensure that the previous entry would be corrected, and a new entry was created in NIIS.”

original Website:
http://www.usdoj.gov/oig/special/2002_05/fullreport.pdf

Miracoulosly Atta obtaines two visa in one day:
admission number 68653985708 number 10847166009
http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/doj/dojoig052002insrpt.pdf,
he learned to fly Cessnas in the Philippines and later again with Hufman Aviation in Venice, Florida, he lived in Hamburg and on a Florida airbase in the same time. He was heavily drinking in Florida when he was preparing the plot on the way to Portland. He was shy and lived with Amanda Keller, a lap dancer. He was a Muslim and drug dependent.

But all in all he was one and the same person?

To make that more than clear FBI agents did not collect an publish hundreds of fotos of him – they preferred to DESTROY them. See http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/southflorida/sfl-culprits919.story

I am not interested if some gym fotos match the real persons. Why should I claim that Jarrah did not work out a little bit? This is irrelevant. Relevant is if evidence is collected or destroyed. If evidence is published or hidden. If evidence is evidence or " just a foto" like the Portland fotos. Nobody neglects that the real Jarrah was in Florida or that the real Atta was there too, i.e. in Portland. Why should we discuss that.

And btw - I am not able to seperate in every time who was the real and the doppelganger or a third person or an invention. There are "hijackers" who are sheer invention. Fake identities with fake fotos. I cannot discuss fantasies. Atta is real, and the doppelganger too.

Atta - or his dg? - were trained in Bosnia in the 90, a friend of mine writes in his new book. see www.juergen-elsaesser.de

Juergen is a fine researcher about the Balkans, decades of knowledge and experiences and connections there.

[John Doe II]

27. Thanks MA

Here the quote from one of MA's sources:

Atta was also a member at L.A. Fitness on University Drive in Coral Springs and worked out at the upscale gym for about two months, an employee said. FBI agents visited the fitness center north of Royal Palm Boulevard twice this week and removed Atta’s picture from the club’s membership computer , said employee José Serraz.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/southflorida/sfl-culprits919.story

No wonder we only have one photo from Atta during his stay in the US (apart from some video footages)

[Christophera]

23. What? No fighting, well okay, agree.

What? No fighting, well okay.

It appears some hijackers have been identified. How many do we feel are solidly connected?

Considering the way things went on 9-11 I expected that hijackers actually were flying planes. Mostly because they hit the wrong building first. If the planes were remote controlled, the sequence would make sense.

It doesn't.