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procopia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 07:36 PM
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Their "Biggest Adversary"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxayU8gpe7M

"If you were the president or vice president of the United States, and 2,973 people were brutally murdered on American soil, wouldn't you want to know exactly how and why it happened, and fully cooperate with any investigation so as to make sure it never happened again?"
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 08:51 PM
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1. The bush administration was a speeding white bronco after 9/11 n/t
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 04:51 PM
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28. Was there previous intelligence that AQ was planning? Yes.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=678886

And that is why the presidential briefing on August 6, 2001, took place. They took it right to the top and Bush ignored it.

Doesn't excuse the CIA, et al, tho, they knew it was coming.
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Flatulo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 09:53 PM
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2. Only if the investigation would not clearly show that we had ample
warnings that an attack was imminent and that I had in fact taken absolutely no measures to foil the plot.

Other than that, yeah.
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 10:01 PM
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3. So you're admitting LIHOP then?
There's hope yet.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 10:32 PM
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4. No, that's just LIH. n/t
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 10:41 PM
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5. That convenient "incompetence" BS may serve the bush administration (and their apologists)
but it ain't workin for me.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 11:13 PM
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6. You were misrepresenting what he said, simple as that.
Edited on Mon Nov-30-09 11:14 PM by Bolo Boffin
Now you are also seeking to smear him and others here.
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Flatulo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 11:15 PM
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7. No. I believe the administration was disinterested in bin Laden.
Remember Richard Clarke?
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icee2 Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 09:44 AM
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8. Depends

If you were bush, you certainly wouldn't want an investigation. Would YOU want an investigation of your own crimes? A better question
is why bushots don't want an investigation. Instead, what we get from them are insults if the subject is brought up. But, we already
know that 9/11 was an inside job and that it is simply unrealistic and futile to think that BUSHCO will ever be held accountable for their crimes. Maybe in 50 years the public will be allowed to know some of the truth...as with FDR's Pearl Harbor MIHOP.
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Flatulo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 10:36 AM
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9. Then why do you want an investigation?
> But, we already know that 9/11 was an inside job

Why not proceed directly to the lynchings?
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icee2 Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 11:50 AM
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10. That's how RWingers think. Why don't you believe in due process? nt
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Flatulo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 12:50 PM
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11. Yes, I do believe in due process. Do you?
You wrote...

> But, we already know that 9/11 was an inside job

How do you know this, and is your knowledge the result of due process?
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procopia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 07:51 AM
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12. How do YOU know what you "know"?
Edited on Wed Dec-02-09 07:55 AM by procopia
In fact, what do you know about 9/11? Anything? Why do you think the administration actively tried to stonewall an investigation from the very beginning?
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Flatulo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 08:20 AM
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13. go here for answer
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procopia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 11:58 PM
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16. yep
That's an answer.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:07 PM
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14. "Know nothingism" will get you nowhere. n/t
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procopia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 11:40 PM
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15. That's why many are seeking 9/11 knowledge...(nt)
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 12:48 AM
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17. You can't seek knowledge with your ground rules.
Know-nothingness is the antithesis of knowledge and truth.
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procopia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 01:09 AM
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18. wrong
Pretend-to-know-allingness is the antithesis of knowledge and truth. And your ground rules are pretending-to-know-all.

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noise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 01:15 AM
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19. Thanks to John Farmer
we now know it all. An incredibly revealing look at the 9/11 plot. A real page turner too. Mesmerizing.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 02:09 AM
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21. Sour grapes. n/t
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HannibalCards Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 03:27 AM
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25. Wait until
you reach Farmer's conclusion, when you reach the end of his book. I wonder if you will accept it.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 02:09 AM
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20. I don't pretend to know all. You pretend I pretend to know all.
Please get your facts accurate.
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noise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 02:18 AM
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22. Better to be satisified with the findings of authoritative panels
As long as one has low expectations of official conduct, one should remain content.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 02:29 AM
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23. Ah, there you go. Don't it feel good to say that word?
"AUTHORITATIVE."

"AUTHORITARIANISM"

Oh, feels so good to shackle someone else into ignorance with one single word cast their direction. Just call them "authoritarian" and, voila! Everything they say is just the MAN trying to wrestle YOU into submission.

Ah, well, back to reality.
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noise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 02:42 AM
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24. I know it's out of line
for a citizen to question authority.

I get the sense that you are happy with the product of the 9/11 investigatory panels. Is that the case?
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 04:03 AM
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26. I am more upset over the fourth Twilight book than the product of the 9/11 investigatory panels. n/t
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procopia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 08:37 AM
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27. Appropriate comparison
Both are works of fiction.
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