so, little over four months in to Obama's admin....

[snooper2]

and I guess nobody has come forward to prove any "truther" claims as they are still controlled by Bushco because Bushco including Cheneyco still control the miltary industral complex within D.C. from their private residences- correct?


:rofl:

[Name removed]

1. Deleted sub-thread

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[scott75]

2. People are certainly calling on Obama to reopen the 9/11 case...

Whether he'll listen or not is another matter. Here's an article written in February on the matter:
Obama: Reopen the 9/11 Investigation -- Part 1

[defendandprotect]

3. Here's my call -- reopen the 9/11 investigation --

[CJCRANE]

4. Are Bush and Cheney the only neocons?

:shrug:

[tetedur]

5. Cheney left a "Stay Behind" group according to Sy Hersh

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/31/hersh-cheney-behind/

In an interview on NPR’s Fresh Air yesterday, host Terry Gross asked investigative journalist Seymour Hersh if, as he continues to investigate the Bush administration, “more people” were “coming forward” to talk to him now that “the president and vice president are no longer in power.” Hersh replied that though “a lot of people that had told me in the last year of Bush, ‘call me next, next February,’ not many people had talked to him. He implied that they were still scared of Cheney.

“Are you saying that you think Vice President Cheney is still having a chilling effect on people who might otherwise be coming forward,” asked Gross. “I’ll make it worse,” answered Hersh, adding that he believes Cheney “put people back” in government to “stay behind” in order to “tell him what’s going on” and perhaps even “do sabotage”:

HERSH: I’ll make it worse. I think he’s put people left. He’s put people back. They call it a stay behind. It’s sort of an intelligence term of art. When you leave a country and, you know, you’ve driven out the, you know, you’ve lost the war. You leave people behind. It’s a stay behind that you can continue to contacts with, to do sabotage, whatever you want to do. Cheney’s left a stay behind. He’s got people in a lot of agencies that still tell him what’s going on. Particularly in defense, obviously. Also in the NSA, there’s still people that talk to him. He still knows what’s going on. Can he still control policy up to a point? Probably up to a point, a minor point. But he’s still there. He’s still a presence.

[BeFree]

6. Yep

And that's why Cheney is advertising himself these days, just a reminder that he can still do damage and do damage control. Bushco is not just one man, it is an organized mob but Cheney is the Godfather of that mob.

The OP is a ridiculous statement and shows a near total ignorance of the real powers that be in DC.

[snooper2]

7. So, they are doing all of this without Obama's knowledge

Nobody on the "inside" who would want to come forward still can't because he/she feels the the President of the United States would not be able to protect them from the cabal.

Or, Obama is in on it too now, they got to him/bought him.


What's your position?

[BeFree]

8. Inside?

There weren't but 200 at the most inside and it wouldn't surprise me if half of them are dead. The insiders did what they did because they 'Loved' America and loved Bushco even more. They love what they did. Why would they turn on Bushco? What you are asking is like asking why mafia members don't turn on the mob. Ridiculous.

There is enough evidence to get another investigation going and it will happen one day.

Of course, if you don't think there need be another investigation then your position is that Bushco told the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

[snooper2]

9. you didn't answer any questions..

how is or isn't Obama involved...

I guess saying half are dead means the ones who couldn't be trusted? Nobody in NTSB, Norad, Pentagon, who is in the "know" would want to come forward due to patriotism? :rofl: The patriotic thing to do would be tell the new President and have him provide protection correct?

Are you saying Bushco has more power and control than President Obama?

[eomer]

11. Whatever drove them to (hypothetically) be part of an inside job,

those drivers would make them want to cover it up, wouldn't they?

Whether driven by some grossly disturbed idea of patriotism, pure greed, lust for power, or whatever it was, those drivers would not all of a sudden turn into a force toward disclosure now.

In other words, you're making no sense whatsoever.

[snooper2]

15. Protection from the new President..

And becoming a hero should be enough...

4 months now and nobody in the "Bushco Cabal", which would have to have tentacles in at least NORAD, NTSB and the Pentagon, have come forward. Little odd don't you think......

[eomer]

18. You haven't explained why their thinking would do a 180.

If they participated in 911 then they believed that 911 would be a good thing and they would have be pretty extreme in those ideas in order to do something so outrageous. Such a person would also believe that covering it up would be a good thing. They would have to have a drastic reversal in their thinking for that not to be the case.

[snooper2]

24. Maybe the outcome wasn't what they expected...

Maybe greed and fame being the 1- THE SINGLE PERSON- THE HERO!~

Maybe they were slighted by the cabal and want to get back-

Just takes one person right?

Odds are after almost 8 years one person would blow the horn on everything correct?

Even the super DUPER SECRET Skulls and Bones have had leaks over the decades...

[snooper2]

19. so nobody was blackmailed and scared...

nobody in NORAD, NTSB, Pentagon, nobody-

The are all dedicated 100% to Bushco- all involved, nobody wants to be the Truthers hero,

Gotcha

[eomer]

34. That would depend.

It would depend on how many and exactly who the conspirators were. It might have been as few as one.

You need to fill in some details and then it would be worth discussing. For some of the possible theories in the full universe I may well agree with you. For many others I do not.

[wildbilln864]

46. maybe they don't want to go to prison or be executed!

or maybe they just afraid for their families' safety. Who knows. :shrug:

[BeFree]

12. Is Obama involved?

Your ridiculousness known no bounds?
Is Obama involved? That is such a ridiculous question I ignore it.

Patriotism: you think everyone is a patriot like you? Or me? That patriotism is either black or white? I didn't use the term you did. Explain what the fuck you mean by this patriotism you use to support your ridiculous argument, please.

[snooper2]

13. So out of the 100 people left in your scenario

You think these folks are so loyal to Bushco not 1% of them would want to blow the horn on the biggest coverup in American history and be a hero. Gotcha...


And you do not want to address any of the other points regarding whether people are hiding information from the President, or bought the President. Has no bearing on the coverup whatsoever. Gotcha...

[BeFree]

16. Be a hero?

To who? You?

Are people hiding stuff from Obama? No, of course not. Everyone who has ever done something wrong while in service to the government has seen the light and has come forward and admitted as much. Didn't you see the news? Obama is a miracle worker, I tell ya, a miracle worker!!


Go away.

[snooper2]

17. Just takes one for the Truthers to have their hero

Again-

You think these folks are so loyal to Bushco not 1% of them would want to blow the horn on the biggest coverup in American history and be a hero. ( It's a yes or no question )

[BeFree]

20. Yes, one would want too

Your questioned answered. If you have any integrity left you will answer mine.

[snooper2]

22. integrity left? :)

Patriotism: you think everyone is a patriot like you? Or me? That patriotism is either black or white? I didn't use the term you did. Explain what the fuck you mean by this patriotism you use to support your ridiculous argument, please.

That question I assume...

Explained in multiple posts above, somebody would want to be the hero and expose the largest coverup in American history and be a patriot/Hero... Just one person, one person in NORAD, NTSB, Pentagon. Doesn't it seem like just a single human in the cabal would ask Obama for protection. It just took one person working for Verizon didn't it?

[BeFree]

23. You don't get it do you?

They think they are patriots for protecting Bushco.

And there have been some in government who have exposed Bushco, but you OCTers called them crazy. Anyone who does expose the scheme, yall call crazy. There is no integrity that I have seen from the OCTers.

[snooper2]

25. There have been many in Government who have exposed Bushco

Many examples...some punsished for it by Bushco..

Please provide the person who exposed the MIHOP working in the Bush cabal that was dismissed/ridiculed by OCT'ers- first I heard of that-

[BeFree]

28. Well

Ms. McKinney for one. Some other brave souls also, can't remember their names.
And there was that Senator from Georgia... Max Cleland(?), who resigned from the 9/11 commission. Several British government insiders.

Basically, either the OCTers called them crazy or just ignored their exposures.

Anyway, your point about Obama... in his second term he'll give it a go at Bushco/911. Just look at what he's facing right now with the torture gig and tell me even if he believed as strongly as I do that he'd make such a move right now.

Again snooper, your integrity is in question, witness your words: ""-first i heard of that-"" I know you're not stupid, so your ignorance must be due to a lack of integrity?

[SDuderstadt]

30. Why don't you ask Max Cleland if...

he believes 9/11 was an "inside job" (hint: he doesn't). You're just trying to conflate his concerns about the 9/11 Commission into something he is not saying at all. Of course, that is par for the course from "truthers".

[snooper2]

31. Again- you can't even remember

"Please provide the person who exposed the MIHOP working in the Bush cabal that was dismissed/ridiculed by OCT'ers- first I heard of that-"

Cynthia McKinney has evidence exposing MIHOP? Please send me a link- again first I heard

British Government Insiders with information on MIHOP? First I heard of that also, please send link with names and info so I can research please...

I think if Obama had any Inkling that MIHOP was an inside job- something would have been leaked by now...or somebody would have turned on Bushco for all reason stated in posts above-

[BeFree]

33. Are you getting as tired as I am?

You keep moving the goal posts around, your head must be ready to explode all that mental manureing, er, maneuvering you are doing. Now you ask about evidence? Hell, sport, the evidence is on this forum, Duh!

There have been several people in government who have called Bushco on it's bullshit 9/11 Official Conspiracy Theory and subsequent coverups.

And some ex-CIA agents:
http://unansweredquestions.org/index.php/2007/09/25/7-cia-veterans-challenge-911-commission-report/

unansweredquestions.org...-cia-veterans-challenge-911-commission-report/

Ya know I could sit here and post dozens of links to educate you, but it would be a waste of my time. You don't want to know anything but your OCT, or you wouldn't be asking all these stupid questions. I finally figured that out. My Bad. That's it from me.

[snooper2]

39. No goal posts being moved, but nice try

I notice you answered 0 questions about Obama-

I asked for government officials who believed in MIHOP and had evidence- you give me folks who want a new investigation, see that 911 was exploited for political purposes and war, and question the funding. Fuck- I agree with all of that. I want to see the redacted 14 or so pages dealing with Saudi Arabia who had a big hand in it in my mind.


I ask after almost 8 fucking years and a brand new Democratic President the truthers still don't have their hero, can't explain Obama's role or knowledge of anything, ( Does he really control the government or is "Bushco" pulling the strings from his private residence.) And their numbers are dwindling...


Oh, and I was MIHOP following every crazy link out there for about a year after 911. Finally after looking at ( ALL ) the evidence, crazy motherfuckers really did hijack planes and do a shitload of damage.

I guess nobody is going to change anybody's mind ( especially people who believe they had a crew working 3 weeks to replace every "normal" tile with a "thermite" tile. :rofl: )

The only CT that makes any sense is that Bushco knew something was going to happen and LIHOP- which would require a DRAMATICALLY smaller number of folks on the "inside"....If truthers would unite around that you might get somewhere. Saying a plane didn't hit the Pentagon isn't going to get you folks anywhere :)

[BeFree]

40. Ha

Your attitude is the problem.... and your lack of real world politics doesn't help. Put the two together and what do you get?: An asinine question about Obama ""...Does he really control the government or is "Bushco" pulling the strings..""

You show an astounding lack of knowledge, or, you are just trolling for trouble and making division. I'm sorry I ever even replied to you, all I did was enable your crap.

[snooper2]

41. ROFL

no answers again...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Just say that I am too ignorant to understand everything/anything about real World politics- gotcha I didn't see you in Crawford Texas protesting the Iraq war did I? Downtown Dallas maybe? Going door to door for Obama? How much research have you done on Wahhabism?

Poor wittle you, just enabling ignorant folks on a forum within a message board with around 20 active participants. Maybe you should actually get all the truthers together with all your savings and do your own investigation if you are so dedicated to the cause. Oh wait, you can't answer some simple questions on a message board. I am guessing that feat would be a little out of reach.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[BeFree]

42. On the floor, eh?

These boots are made for walking.....

If there were any real questions they got answered. You just didn't like the answers. I take it you think Obama is in total control and Bushco is history and have no power. That seems to be your entire premise, I, and others here have told you that your premise is bullshit and they've done it rather nicely, yet you continue to expose yourself as ROFL. You had your fun, and got your two seconds of entertainment. Hope you're happy now and just go away.

[NowHearThis]

35. I think the MAJORITY of them would like to blow the horn on BUSHCO

But, life is already too short.

[scott75]

37. apparently some anonymous people already have...

But if they can take out 3000 citizens in a single day, I don't think it'd be too hard for them to snuff out a few more, so I can understand that no one who was part of the whole thing has stepped forward. Furthermore, in a murder investigation, the murderer or any of their potential accomplices don't have to step forward for there to be a serious investigation. Hopefully one will finally occur, not one controlled by Bush's campaign helper Zelikow.

[wildbilln864]

47. if they want to die maybe!

or loose loved ones?

[scott75]

36. It's not ridiculous to me...

It's something I wonder about a lot. It comes down to this; there is evidence that Obama met up with the Bilderbergers, perhaps the most wealthy and powerful group of individuals on earth, along with Mrs. Clinton. And to think that none of -them- know what really happened is, in my view, foolish. It doesn't mean that he knows, but it certainly makes it more likely. It's one of those things that gnaws at me, just as the fact that he doesn't investigate this gnaws at me; the fact that he doesn't indict Cheney and all for their role in promoting torture always bothers me greatly. Everything has a dark side and I still think that Obama was way better than McCain, he's certainly not perfect.

Perhaps the analogy I'm about to make is somewhat flawed, but think of Anakin Skywalker, aka Vader. He started out pretty good, then went to the dark side. But there was always something good in him and in the ending, that good won out. It's been said that the powers that be thought they could control Kennedy too. They were wrong and decided that he had to be killed. If Obama really does challenge the powers that be, I can easily imagine the same thing happening. But even if he only chafes them a little, atleast it'll be better then the Bush years.

[SDuderstadt]

10. "What you are asking is like asking why mafia members don't turn on the mob"

Your analogy is absurd because the situation at hand is more like Elliot Ness taking over the mob. You don't think some "mob members" would easily turn under those circumstances?

[NowHearThis]

14. You saying that Obama is Ness? That's absurd.

What do you base that on?

[SDuderstadt]

21. Don't tell me....

Obama is "in on it" too?

[NowHearThis]

27. O is "in on it" too? What the h--- is that supposed to mean?

Or is it just an Untruther's way to show disrespect by trying to annoy the rest of us?

[SDuderstadt]

29. Given your various claims....

how could Obama NOT be "in on it"? Wouldn't he have the power to release all the evidence you claim has been suppressed? Why hasn't he if he's not "in on it"?

P.S. I also notice that you can't seem to debunk the direct eyewitness testimony of those that saw the plane crash into the second tower. Maybe Obama culd help you prove your claim that it was actually a "cartoon", that is, once he stops laughing hysterically at you.

[NowHearThis]

32. You didn't answer the question about "in on it". Define.

YOU said it, now tell us what it's supposed to mean.

[hack89]

50. Truthers believe that Democrats were part of the plot

that's how they explain the 911 commission whitewash - it was a bipartisan whitewash. So it is a reasonable question to ask whether the number one Democrat is actively involved in covering up 911.

[Name removed]

51. Deleted message

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[SDuderstadt]

52. Haven't you claimed the Democrats on the 9/11 Commission....

were part of the "cover-up"?

[NowHearThis]

53. Maybe you can explain what being "in on it" means. H89 can't...

Help a brother Untruther out. Hack would help you if he could.

[SDuderstadt]

54. Your lack of comprehension isn't our problem....

do you want to debate or do you just want to play games?


Hint: "in on it" = "part of it"

[NowHearThis]

58. What does "part of it" mean?

nt

[hack89]

56. Democrats on the 911 Commission deliberately took actions to cover up Bushco complicity in 911.

How do you explain the 911 CR?

[NowHearThis]

57. You never said what "being in on it" means. How about it?

Tell us what you meant when you wrote that. Thank you kindly.

[hack89]

59. I just did

Go back and look at the subject line for post 56. That is what 911 Druthers believe.

[NowHearThis]

60. No you didn't.

Stop the silly games and answer the simple question: what do mean by "in on it". If you can't or won't answer the question, I'll
assume that it was a tricky tactic to try and make a false inference. That's the most logical reason that I can see for why you
chose that wording.

[hack89]

62. They had knowledge of the details of plot and aided in the cover up

that's what in on it means.

[NowHearThis]

67. So you think most Democrats were briefed & approved?

Evidence?

[hack89]

71. Comprehension is not your strong suit, is it?

It is 911 Truthers that believe that the Democrats were "in on it". That is how they explain away the 911 CR. I personally don't believe it for a second.

[NowHearThis]

72. Another comedian!

Are you vying with the other Untruthers in some kind of comedy competition? What's the prize, a new truck?

[hack89]

73. You don't like hard questions or issues, do you? nt

[SDuderstadt]

74. Have you ever noticed NowHearThis' response when...

pressed for proof of his goofy claims? He blusters through the next couple of posts insisting that he is right because he's "researched it" and, well, because he SAYS he is, but never provides actual proof of his claims (because he can't). After that, he just drops the sdubject and hopes no one notices. "truther", indeed.

He's kind of like the "Frank Burns" of the 9/11 forum.

[NowHearThis]

75. You don't like having to deal with historical facts, do you?

nt

[hack89]

76. I relish dealing with them

that's why, unlike you, I actually put them in my posts.

[SDuderstadt]

81. You don't like being challenged for actual proof of your goofy claims, do you....

n/t

[vincent_vega_lives]

82. Untruther

I like it. It sounds very "1984"ish.

[Bolo Boffin]

83. Retruther would be more 1984ish - or just Truther itself.

Minitrue is canon, though.

[NowHearThis]

84. Why v_v, it's so YOU

Maybe one day soon, you'll come out of the coma and realize it's 2009 and your government told you a big lie when they
tried to falsely blame 9/11 on Osama. Yes, v_v, they lied to you about that and so many other things (JFK, RFK, MLK, Anthrax,
WMD, TORTURE, war crimes in the former Republic of Yugoslavia, the stolen elections of 2000 & 2004, and so much more).

Wake up, v_v. WAKE up.

[vincent_vega_lives]

85. A coma sounds pretty good right about now

with a small baby at home I could USE the sleep!

[wildbilln864]

45. Sibel Edmonds. Is she still under gag order?

I'd like to know if BHS is aware of her and what she claims. :shrug:

[spiritual_gunfighter]

61. I think antagonistic OP's trying to start flame wars

are against DU's TOS, consider yourself reported.

[hack89]

63. Not very familiar with this forum, are you? nt

[spiritual_gunfighter]

64. I am familiar with DU

I sometimes wonder if this forum is a part of it.

[hack89]

65. A fair question.

we have our fun, our own little culture.

[wildbilln864]

68. they get to do that...

we don't! :hi:

[snooper2]

77. Just cause you don't like the subject matter...isn't my problem...

Either Obama is in on it ( as some claim )

Or-

Bushco is running a gov. within the gov. and has everyone so dedicated to their goals that Nobody would want to come forward because they are loyal to Bush/Cheney first.

Or-

The 1% that could come forward after almost 8 years are still scared- ( and apparently the sitting President wouldn't be able to provide any protection.)


report that- :)

[jakeXT]

26. US votes for 9/11-style commission to probe financial crisis

U.S. Votes For 9/11-Style Commission To Probe Financial Crisis
http://www.opednews.com/articles/U-S-Votes-For-9-11-Style-by-George-Washington-090506-397.html


WASHINGTON (AFP) – US lawmakers voted Wednesday to create a 9/11-style commission of experts to probe the causes of last year's devastating financial meltdown and to draw lessons to prevent its recurrence.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090506/bs_afp/uspoliticseconomybankingproperty_20090506212944




I bet we will get to the bottom of it.....ehem

[spooked911]

38. your premise is very naive

they all were complicit

[JackRiddler]

43. Funny, you could say the same thing about Iraq war lies...

which by your logic proves the WMD story was on the up-and-up?

[snooper2]

48. talk about a straw man

Truthers here have been claiming for years that government insiders will come out and provide PROOF of MIHOP, not just the folks who want a second investigation because of politics and hidden items like the Saudi Connection.

Now, they are so loyal to Bushco that they won't come forward knowing Obama would provide protection...

Now, you even have a jackass upthread saying Obama may/is complicit as well ( he is part of the elites correct? )

[JackRiddler]

49. Don't let me interrupt your argument with "truthers"

Since that's not me, I'll leave you to carry on.

[Ghost in the Machine]

55. YOU are the "jackass" that brought up the question of Obama's involvement...

snooper2 (1000+ posts) Thu May-07-09 11:31 AM
Response to Reply #6
7. So, they are doing all of this without Obama's knowledge
Nobody on the "inside" who would want to come forward still can't because he/she feels the the President of the United States would not be able to protect them from the cabal.

Or, Obama is in on it too now, they got to him/bought him.


What's your position?

The only strawman built here was by you, and you even built him a little straw house that you could huff and puff and blowwwwww down.

Your OP, as well as most of your responses, are based on your own ignorance. By all appearances, it's a deep seated, willfull ignorance that you're very proud of. You seem to think that President Obama *knows* everyone in every government agency on a personal level and knows their agenda/politics. You also seem to think that there aren't people from little "cliques" or organizations that would work to harm our form of government and our way of life. Have you ever heard of a little group called PNAC? Do you know who their members are? Have you researched any of them?

Project For A New American Century Signatories:

There are interesting names on both lists - Some I wasn't aware of.

Original 25 PNAC Signatories

Elliott Abrams
Gary Bauer
William J. Bennett
Jeb Bush
Dick Cheney
Eliot A. Cohen
Midge Decter
Paula Dobriansky
Steve Forbes
Aaron Friedberg
Francis Fukuyama
Frank Gaffney
Fred C. Ikle
Donald Kagan
Zalmay Khalilzad
Lewis Scooter Libby
Norman Podhoretz
Dan Quayle
Peter W. Rodman
Stephen P. Rosen
Henry S. Rowen
Donald Rumsfeld
Vin Weber
George Weigel
Paul Wolfowitz

Additional PNAC Signatories

Morton Abramowitz
Gordon Adams
Ken Adelman
Urban Ahlin
Madeleine K. Albright
Richard V. Allen
Giuliano Amato
Mark A. Anderson
Uzi Arad
Richard L. Armitage
Timothy Garton Ash
Anders Aslund
Ronald Asmus
Andrew Y. Au
Maureen Aung-Thwin
Nina Bang-Jensen
Rafael L. Bardaji
Carolyn Bartholomew
Wladyslaw Bartoszewski
Arnold Beichman
Peter Beinart
Jeffrey Bell
Jeffrey Bergner
Robert L. Bernstein
George Biddle
Carl Bildt
Daniel Blumenthal
John Bolton
Max Boot
Ellen Bork
Rudy Boshwitz
Pascal Bruckner
Mark Brzezinski
William F. Buckley, Jr
Reinhard Buetikofer
Janusz Bugajski
Buster C. Glosson (USAF Ret),
Michael Butler
Martin Butora
Daniele Capezzone
Per Carlsen
Gunilla Carlsson
Frank Carlucci
Linda Chavez
Steven C. Clemons
Seth Cropsey
Ivo H. Daalder
Helle Dale
Massimo D'Alema
Dennis DConcini
Pavol Demes
Larry Diamond
Peter Dimitrov
James Dobbins
Thomas Donnelly
Nicholas Eberstadt
Robert Edgar
Uffe Elleman-Jensen
Amitai Etzioni
Lee Feinstein
Edwin J. Feulner, Jr.
Jeffrey L. Fiedler
Michele Flournoy
Hillel Fradkin
Aaron Friedberg
Frank Gaffney
Peter Galbraith
Jeffrey Gedmin
Sam Gejdenson
Robert S. Gelbard
Reuel Marc Gerecht
Bronislaw Geremek
Carl Gershmann
Marc Ginsberg
Andre Glucksmann
Merle Goldman
Philip Gordon
Daniel Goure
Istvan Gyarmati
Morton Halperin
Pierre Hassner
Vaclav Havel
John Herfferman
Charles Hill
Richard C. Holbrooke
James Hooper
Toomas Ilves
Martin S. Indyk
Bruce P. Jackson
Eli S. Jacobs
Michael Joyce
Frederick Kagan
Robert Kagan
Max M. Kampelman
Adrian Karatnycky
Penn Kemble
Craig Kennedy
Paul Kennedy
Col. Robert Killebrew (USA, Ret)
Glenys Kinnock
Lane Kirklan
Jeane J. Kirkpatrick
Harold Hongju Koh
Bernard Kouchner
Peter Kovler
Jerzy Kozminski
Louis Kraar
van Krastev
Charles Krauthammer
William Kristol
Girts Valdis Kristovskis
Ludger Kuehnhardt
Mart Laar
Mark Lagon
Anthony Lake
Vytautas Landsbergis
Stephen Larrabee
John Lehman
Lewis E. Lehrman
Mark Leonard
Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger
Tod Lindberg
James Lindsay
Perry Link
Bette Bao Lord
Rich Lowry
Connie Mack
Christopher Makins
Tom Malinowski
James Mann
Yu Mao-chun
Mary Beth Markey
Will Marshall
Margarita Mathiopoulos
Clifford May
Sen. John McCain
Michael McFaul
Daniel McKivergan
Matteo Mecacci
Mark Medish
Edwin Meese III
Thomas O. Melia
Saah E. Mendelson
Michael Mertes
Ilir Meta
Adam Michnik
Derek Mitchell
Richard Morningstar
Joshua Muravchik
Klaus Naumann
Wing C. Ng
Steven J. Nider
Dietmar Nietan
James O'Brien
Michael O'Hanlon
Janusz Onyszkiewicz
Mackubin Thomas Owens
Wayne Owens
Cem Ozdemir
Can Paker
Mark Palmer
Martin Peretz
Richard Perle
Ralph Peters
Friedbert Pflueger
Daniel Pipes
Danielle Pletka
Norman Podhoretz
John Edward Porter
Florentino Portero
Barry R. McCaffrey (Gen. USA, Ret)
Samantha Ravich
Anusz Reiter
Sophie Richardson
Robert H. Scales (USA, Ret)
Peter Rodman
Alex Rondos
Jim Rosapepe
Dennis Ross
Kenneth Roth
Jacques Rupnik
Eberhard Sandschneider
Randy Scheunemann
Christian Schmidt
Gary Schmitt
William Schneider, Jr.
Charles Schumer Senator
Simon Serfaty
Stephen Sestanovich
John Shattuck
Sin-Ming Shaw
Richard H. Shultz
Radek Sikorski
Stefano Silvestri
Martin Simecka
Paul Simon
Walter Slocombe
Gary Smith
Abraham Sofaer
Henry Sokolski
Stephen J. Solarz
Helmut Sonnenfeldt
James B. Steinberg
Leonard Sussman
John J. Sweeney
William Howard Taft IV
Dick Thornburgh
Gry Titley
John Tkacik
Helga Flores Trejo
Ed Turner
Karl-Theodor von zu Guttenberg
Ivan Vejvoda
Sasha Vondra
Arthur Waldron
Cleste Wallander
Malcolm Wallop
James Webb
Ruth Wedgood
Caspar Weinberger
Kenneth Weinstein
Richard Weitz
Paul Weyrich
Leon Wieseltier
Chris Williams
Jennifer Windsor
Marshall Wittmann
R. James Woolsey
Minky Worden
Larry Wortzel
Dov Zakheim
Robert B. Zoellick

http://www.congressunderfire.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=114&topic_id=7&mesg_id=7&page=

Lee Feinstein & Richard Holbrooke
Clinton ties:

Lee Feinstein

"Hillary's foreign-policy coordinator, Lee Feinstein, a scholar at the Council on Foreign Relations, also says no threats are being made. Feinstein was brought on in August specifically to do "outreach"—to bring in foreign-policy experts to counter the Obama recruitment effort. And, he says, there is no cause for jealousy: Hillary has scores of former officials from her husband's administration advising her."
http://www.newsweek.com/id/40772

Richard Holbrooke

"The main Hillary enforcer has been Richard Holbrooke, Bill Clinton's former U.N. ambassador (and an aspiring secretary of State), says a senior adviser to Obama, who would also discuss personnel matters only anonymously. "

{same link as above}

Also, notice Democratic Senator Chuck Schumer on the list of signatories.... the same Chuck Schumer who gave us Michael Mukasey.

I don't think you're really interested in any debate/discussion, I think you're more about just trying to denigrate "truthers" with your friviolous posts and snarky attitude...

[wildbilln864]

69. great assessment Ghost! nt

[Ghost in the Machine]

70. It was a pretty easy read, wildbill...

... like reading a children's book. :evilgrin:


:hi:


Peace,

Ghost

[snooper2]

78. Oh WOW, PNAC was what started me as MIHOP

then LIHOP I realized is the ONLY possibility...( I put at about 10% )


How many people would it take for MIHIOP?



And after almost 8 years no HERO has come forward with evidence of MIHOP knowing damn well Obama would protect them and their family.


Gotcha-

[NowHearThis]

79. Do you actually believe what you wrote?

nt

[snooper2]

80. Do you ever respond with more than seven words?

[wildbilln864]

44. Nope! You have it wrong actually. nt

[greyl]

66. Good job typing some letters! nt