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CGowen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 03:35 PM Original message |
Principal Electrical Engineer for WTC: "Fuel and Planes Alone Did NOT Bring the Towers Down" |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. Mr. Humenn has been retired for 10 years. |
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Twist_U_Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Are you suggesting that 70 yr olds are incapable of rational thought? |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. An electrical engineering degree (and license)... |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 04:58 AM Response to Reply #3 |
43. Which engineering degree is? n/t |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. None of them. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Absolutely not. n/t |
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wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. yep... |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 09:19 AM Response to Reply #2 |
20. Are you suggesting that some are not? n/t |
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Twist_U_Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. I`m suggesting that you smeared a retiree without proof. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. You might want to work on Richard Gage. |
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Twist_U_Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:50 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. "That is, if he's talking to plane deniers like yourself, Twist." |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 05:44 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. You won't call me a bold face liar in any event, Twist |
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Twist_U_Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 07:44 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. I believe the OP was about the Towers....Pentagons an obvious lie |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 07:53 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Denying Flight 77 makes you a plane denier, Twist |
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CGowen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:11 AM Response to Reply #1 |
15. It was not only the Gage presentation, he also looked at "other related material" n/t |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 09:19 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. David Ray's latest opus? n/t |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:52 AM Response to Reply #1 |
18. And your credentials are..............???? |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 09:21 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. My credentials matter not. |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. What a joke! |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. It depends. |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. So, would it be safe to say |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Not exactly. |
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Twist_U_Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:57 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Then you would have determined John Gross(NIST) is a liar too. |
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William Seger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
4. "I viewed the presentation of Richard Gage and other related material..." |
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wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. which facts specifically are in question? nt |
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William Seger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Glad you asked |
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wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:30 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. I asked what facts you found questionable. |
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William Seger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:39 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Well, you know... |
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wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #17 |
24. that didn't stop you from replying to my post #6 did it! |
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William Seger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Oh, I didn't say I wasn't going to reply to you |
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wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 08:06 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Sorry but I often ignore bullshit. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 12:38 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Just to be clear... |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 09:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. From the guy who gave us this... |
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CGowen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 09:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. I would like to know who these guys are .. |
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William Seger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I'd like to know if they still think that |
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CGowen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I thought they criticize NIST for not looking at the collapse and accuse them of |
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William Seger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Grabbe does |
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CGowen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. but you were talking about NIST......n/t |
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William Seger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:43 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Yes, I was |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:59 AM Response to Original message |
19. well, *obviously* he wouldn't know what he was talking about |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
23. Let us pay attention to what Mr. Humenn says. |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:39 PM Response to Reply #23 |
35. several floors and that was it |
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wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. you are so right. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Santa Claus said they did! |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 05:07 AM Response to Reply #23 |
44. Bullshit. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Unless you are prepared to disregard the entire science of fire engineering |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. So why doesn't any physical evidence collected show any |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Because only a tiny fraction of the steel was examined. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. NIST's study was fundamentally anti-science. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. The factual inaccuracies in that paragraph are chronic in your posting history, mhatrw. |
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Fainter (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. In Other Words, You Got Nothing. n/t |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. In other words, I'm not getting sucked into trollery today. n/t |
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Fainter (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Still Non-Responsive To Mhatrw's Post. n/t |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Nothing slips past you, Fainter. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. So you don't think fire science is a real field of study? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 07:39 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. The collapses were unique in the history of "fire science." |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:01 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. None of the buildings that collapsed on September 11th... |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:26 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Why wasn't the WTC steel available even for a simple visual inspection to |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Available to whom? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Read the NIST report. |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:55 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. That's what I thought. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 12:13 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. You are only demonstrating your complete ignorance. |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 02:28 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Should I take that to mean that you have finally read the NIST report? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 02:42 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Oh, Jesus, just how many wrestlers are on this OCT tag team? |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 03:47 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. So then should I assume that you haven't read the NIST report? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 04:13 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Blah, blah, blah. |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:03 AM Response to Reply #67 |
72. Let me see if I am understanding your viewpoint correctly. |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. I think that's a fair assumption. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. There is little profit in arguing with a complete buffoon. |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Your reply is typical of those with no argument. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 03:43 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Deleted message |
mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. What was the test NIST used to determine whether WTC metal had |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 09:17 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Read the NIST report. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Answer the question, if you can. |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. It appears you missed the reference to your earlier post (#61). |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:39 AM Response to Reply #68 |
74. I'm not so sure. 'mhatrw' knows this information "like the back of his hand." |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Three pieces of 236 showed ANY exposure to temperatures above 250 C. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Deleted message |
mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:39 AM Response to Reply #79 |
82. I wasn't lying and you are breaking forum rules by accusing me of this. |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:58 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Bullshit. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Somebody is a sore loser. n/t |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. Should I assume when you post incorrect information it's intentional mhatrw? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:40 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Cute. Nice fancy formatting as well!!! |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:04 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. Obvious? Yes. 'Boloboffin' pointed it out in posts #51 and #53. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 01:42 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. I don't think 'boloboffin' capitalizes his name. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 07:22 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. This is unintended irony, right? |
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